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Blue Pullman is Tri-ang rebuilt with Southern Pride etches and Chris Leigh ends and bogie side frames (the bogie innards are Southern Pride. Rebuilt by Brian Kirby a few years ago. P1050440as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

Time for a few more photos: Diesel depot, with a new arrival (DP2) on the right. P1060009as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Hymek on fitted freight - most of the wagons are the new Bachmann ones as I recently had a clear-out of older ones: P1060010as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Lima Class 40, as improved many years ago by the now disappeared Western Respray Services: P1060011as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Busy scene on the station approaches: P1060012as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Lion: P1060014as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Class 37 on the York-Bournemouth (with correct headcode courtesy of Bachmann): P1060019as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Dapol Class 22 - the one disappointing aspect is the headcodes, which just don't look right: P1060021as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Sliver Fox 128: P1060022as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr W&M railbus: P1060023as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr DMUs at platforms 6 and 7: P1060026as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr] DP2 awaits departure: P1060027as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Heljan Western: P1060028as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Station scene: P1060029as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

Here is a view of the loop: 67774_WembleyStadiumLoop by robertcwp, on Flickr

This photo shows how the porthole stock was often to be seen in the 1950s: 46210_20-5-53 by robertcwp, on Flickr Note the mix of Mark I and LMS designs. Visible stock comprises: BG Mark I CK Mark I FK Mark I FO porthole RK LMS TO LMS TO LMS TK Mark I BTK porthole BG (not clear) remainder not visible. The train appears to be the southbound Midday Scot, which had portions from Glasgow and Perth. What the modeller really needs to go with the porthole (and other LMS design) stock is an open third and a kitchen car. Here is a closer view of the FO - not very sharp as it's a very small part of the negative: It does show the unusual roof vent arrangement.

Thanks - I wondered what the red labels were when I first bought the image then forgot about them.

MartonCentralPlan-Large by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

Layout still not receiving the attention it deserves but I have managed to restock it to move it into the early 1960s and give a few new models an outing. Here are a few images from today: Lion and D5705 make their debut. P1050738s by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Yellow panels invade the diesel depot. P1050740s by Robert Carroll, on Flickr A change of DMUs - the Craftsman 114 conversion looks rather basic compared to the new Bachmann Derby Lightweight. P1050741s by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Lion again: P1050742s by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Class 25 on parcels vans. P1050743s by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Co-Bo again. This really needs some weathering. P1050744s by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

Here are some 33s that may well have gone straight from green without yellow panels to blue with full yellow ends, though this cannot be guarnateed as they might have gained full yellow ends prior to full repaint: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5357723610/in/set-72157603653307095 http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5448346842/in/set-72157603653307095/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5438156119/in/set-72157603653307095/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/6015612212/in/set-72157603653307095/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/6696337161/in/set-72157603653307095/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5355696138/in/set-72157603653307095/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/6132775793/in/set-72157603653307095/ And this one is from 1968: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5447741357/in/set-72157603653307095/ Here is a 71 still without a yellow panel in 1967 (but was this one then converted to a 74?): http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5519539925/in/set-72157603648772112

Another unusual one - an experiment I believe: Note that this is a very small part of a half-frame 35mm slide!

100_LowestoftC_4-10-70 by robertcwp, on Flickr This is a colour image taken on the same day as the B&W one linked above.

Apologies but I don't know what you mean by "enable the BB code".

My layout in late 1960s mode a while back:

Apologies for the delay in replying. 25' 4" x 10' in its own building. Yes, it is OO, using Peco Code 75 track, including around 100 points. Normal, old-fashioned, DC with lots of wires (all done by Brian Kirby). Lots of other things in life have intervened over the past eight months, so the layout has had little attention. Maybe 2012 will be different.

Blue/grey portholes included at least one composite, two seconds and several brake seconds. There was also a blue/grey brake second from the diagram that immediately preceded the porthole version and I have had a first-hand eyewitness report of at least two post-war open seconds in blue/grey, though specific numbers were not noted (numbers of the set were noted but not which vehicles were blue/grey).

One of the Steam on 35mm DVDs has colour footage on the Glasgow Queen Street taken just prior to the start of electric services (wires are up). The trains include some Gresley stock and whilst some vehicles are clearly crimson, one or two look decidedly brown in colour, so may stil be in dirty varnished teak finish, but hard to tell for sure.

Derby Lightweight goes into service (photos show it wasn't quite sitting squarely on its bogies). P1050607s by Robert Carroll, on Flickr P1050608s by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

I believe the last Veps went blue/grey in 1973. The last of the Bournemouth express stock went blue/grey much earlier - 1971 from memory. 7808 was painted blue/grey from new as an experiment but 7809-15 came out in blue. There was then a gap before further Veps were constructed, during which 102 Cigs and 10 Bigs appeared on the scene. Have a look at this and the next few photos in the set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevs_trains/1794190764/in/set-72157604661458832

I think some 4-compartment brakes of the diagram Hornby are doing were converted for push-pull too.

I don't recall the Yorkshire Pullman having RU/RMB but if I recall correctly the Tees-Tyne Pullman did in its final year and the Hull Pullman did for most, if not all, of its life after the second class Pullmans were withdrawn from it in October 1968.

Mainline did a very good model of the RB 30 years ago. The RB had a kitchen similar to the RU but a smaller seating area. In between was a buffet counter. The RKB had a large kitchen and pantry, with a buffet counter (but no seats) at one end. Meals were served in an adjacent open vehicle, as was also often the case with RB and RU. RB(K) was a c1970 conversion from RF. The LMR did not receive RU vehicles but instead had restaurant cars with 24 first class seats (built 1961-2). Almost all were rebuilt as restaurant buffet cars c1969-70 and reclassified RB(K) often written simply as RBK. The WR had very few RMB vehicles early on. No one has yet managed to prove to me that any carried WR chocolate and cream livery. For much of the 1960s and into the early 1970s, most East Coast Anglo-Scottish expresses had both an RMB and an RU in the formation.

Here is a photo of the Leyland coach showing more of the end detail.

Looking at the numbers on the crimson samples, and with information from the C J G Bishop monographs: Brake Third E86135E - this one was converted to push-pull for the Epping-Ongar service in 1949. Third E82291E - was Sc82291E in BR days and was written off in the accident at Wormit in 1955. First E81036E - was Sc81036E in BR days, worked on Clydebank services, remained all first, withdrawn 11/61. Hopefully Hornby will re-think the numbers before going into production.

All firsts could be found in Glasgow area sets. In 1947, the Hyndland-based sets included formations of varying lengths including 2 BT, F and varying numbers of T. These worked to destinations such as Airdrie, Springburn, Hamilton, Clydebank and through to Edinburgh. One set even had a Saturday foray to Berwick.

The one of the Hornby models in the showcase on the first page of this thread.

I can't think of a photo of a Gresley one but there is a Thompson CL in this photo on the S&D. Not bound for Bournemouth, but take a look at the mix of stock in this set at Cross Gates. Another CL on the S&D, this time on a Bournemouth train, but again it's a Thompson one.