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Oh indeed I get info on the Turf Burner but I want to know more on this loco not the Peat burning broad Gauge Leader class. I'm wanting to learn more about the K3 Mogul. Hmm guess it can't hurt to see if any Turf Burner searches mention this one. Thank you though for the advice. I really hope that doesn't sound sarcastic up there my friend. I reread it and in my head it kind of sounds sarcastic but I wasn't wanting it to sound that way. I'm probably just being too self-conscious but you can never be too safe on making sure you don't hurt some one am I right?

Huh well at least I wasn't far off on the Home for the prototype this time. I mean Ireland is almost part of the UK as far as distance goes. Um does anyone know where I can learn about the K3?

Hey all, Got another poser for you guys and I'm not sure if it's British or not once again so if I learn it isn't I will of course move it to the proper place for discussion. Anyway I was looking through my saved photos of Mogul arrangement locos and found a photo I've been meaning to look into for a while and wondered to myself why haven't I posted a question yet? The loco in question is this rather strange looking loco (Please forgive the reupload I cannot remember where I found the photo. I hold no copyrights to it and this is only temporary till I find it again.) http://sta.sh/0258m0wq6h6x now to me this looks like a Pannier Tank with a tender but I have no idea what those are really along the boiler. Tanks, Condensing Gear, Some experimental steam collectors, The list is endless and I probably wouldn't even be close. But as many of you know I have a soft spot for the oddball, One off and obscure. So I want to find out what this engine's story is at lest as far as where it came from and worked that is. I highly doubt I'm going to find accurate measurements for this one but hey who knows after all you guys helped me discover more photos of the Paget Loco and Pugsy maybe I will be lucky a third time. Thanks again and I do hope I posted in the right place this time. I know it's not on purpose but I don't like cluttering up the wrong Prototype section and causing a mess for the admins and everyone else even when it is a accident.

I recently received a book about the Shropshire and Montgomeryshire and it mentions the Col. was a bit of a reuser as far as names. He had several "Hecate" Locomotives and several "Severn" as well. As far as I can tell the only engine that had a unique name throughout all his many railways was "Gazelle" By all accounts the man had names he wanted for his engines and unlike someone in the hobby of collecting models or trading cards, ECT he was quite fine with duplicates. Ah the writer I aspire to be can see the point he had for this though. I have had several character concepts named "Silas" including the main hero of a comic series I hope to write soon. Some names just click with you. Funny story on the Silas thing is I'm trying to connect to my Scottish ancestry and I've been a Disney fan for well nearly 3 decades with Scrooge McDuck being a fond favorite and knowing the lore of the character Scrooge's Great great Grandfather was Silas Mcduck. Ah rest in piece Alan Young. You will be missed but your legacy is in good hands. Are we talking "Severn" the 0-4-2 there? I can appreciate that loco I just am more fond of the 0-8-0 "Hecate" and Gazelle too.

Ah yes the Col. loved himself a good Greek myth. I mean over his entire network of railways he had Multiple engines named Hecate which makes it a right pain learning more on the one I personally like. That being the K&ES 0-8-0 Tank I'm quite fond of it and Gazelle another of the Col.'s Better purchases.

Thank you very much. I had thought this were the case now I am 100%. In a topic about buffers mate the UK wasn't the sole employer of this system. It has relevance to the topic at large but the main question has been about Buffers in the UK I only wanted to be certain that Buffer Hights in the UK were compatible with those of other nations nearby. I have my answers and more thanks to everyone here.

Well with Buckeye/knuckles buffers are kind of superfluous since the whole point is to not have any slack. At least thats what I know about them I have seen locomotives with both a Screw link and Buckeye set ups that makes the knuckle look loose. A bit closer to the German setup. I would have guessed this would be the case. The only loco I know of who never got raised buffers was Gazelle and that was due to her size and useing her own wagons/coach stock.

I did the conversion and both are roughly 40 inches so I'd say just within the Tolerance of being compatible with British. Main reason I ask about Norway is I am quite fond of the two locos of the 2a class. Number 16 and one that I think is still running excursions named Caroline. I call No. 16 Emmett as a personal nickname but thats nither here nor there. Note will add a link to the locos in question in a moment. On a mobile and switching tabs durring any reply is dangerous in that it as the clown would say "It go poof!" I'm no expert on Gronks so it could be a spring issue or bad track. Funnily makes me think of the more pronounced stopping aninmation from the first few CG Thomas seasons. Um I think I see a even worse problem. Look at the front brake linkage is it me or is it snaped off it's holding? I think that poor Gronk is in some serious trouble. As I said above I think I see broken brake linkage and I think some said the fron wheel is misaligned. like the front end isn't even in working order if thats true.

That is what I thought. But was this a standard for Europe as well as Britain? I mean would the buffers of a Norwegian tank engine like this http://www.steamlocomotive.info/locomotives/norway257.jpg be at a similar height? I think yes but but I want to be positive. Hmm interesting. Depending on what way it was heading I suspect as well. Tank engines and Shunter diesels do seem to bounce alot.

Hey all, I got a simple question and I think I have the answer but I want to be positive on the matter. If I remember the average hight off the ground to the buffer is around 3 feet. How far off can this deviate as I have seen locomotives with buffers set just a small amount lower than wagons and coaches but the buffers are always pressed against each other and never too low. Also is this a standard for the UK or are most countries in Europe keeping to this standard too as long as they have chain or screw link couplings? I know loading gauges would be the main problem but there are some continental locos running in the UK right now (or at least once they get restored properly) But yeah thats been bugging me for a bit.

I honestly have always liked Vans with apex roofs. I have no clue why but I'd love to see some more examples that aren't just Salt Vans. Terrible shame that Trucks, Coaches and vans loose their wheels at times. But at least this one looks to keep her frames. Hmm that brings up a odd question. I would assume that this van was a 4 wheeled one with the common design most Trucks would use. If that is the case how hard is it to locate a donor pair (I say pair I mean two sets of wheels.) if one were to try to restore her? Are old sets still viable if in good condition or would it be best to just machine new ones?

Sounds like a great choice my friend. I'll let you be the judge of weather or not to give her the Black and white stripes.

Looking good Sam my friend. You know even though her name is taken from a drama I just can't help but want to see her rolling along once finished with thr Thunderbirds theme playing. It would really suit her and her namesake if you ask me. Also to be clear I'm talking about the theme sans the countdown. I'm not sure if you've said elsewhere but if I may ask what color do you plan for her livery? I think she would look quite fetching in a Red with black stripes and white lining around the black. Just my Ten Cents my friend looking forward to more.

I think that fault is indeed my mistake as the hill grade described was calculated by someone else and I used a %Converter to get the 5.3. My bad better see what I can figure from the correct measurements. Ok got it I will try that from here on. Hopefully I don't screw it up this time.

Hey all me again with another topic for discussion this time it's on Gradients of hills. I've been wondering this for a bit but how do you go about taking a Grade in decimal and turn it into the number in number format. Like a 5.3% grade hill is 1 in 75 or it climbs 280 feet over the distance of a mile. How do you get the middle measurement. Also yes I did just use Godon's Hill as a example of steep grades as it is the only one I know off the top of my head in the Number in Number format. A bit silly I know but I am a person who's mind is full of Trivia on many things and less so on Mathematics. It's a good thing I plan on pursuing a writing career Fiction is my mission as it were. Anyway I hope my question above makes sense. Thank you guys again in advance. Take care.

Oh I know full well that I was thinking of something different . Just thought I'd make a joke and show my support is all. It is a good name for a loco anyway.

Hey Sam just to make sure your naming this engine "Thunderchild"? If so all I can say is 5....4....3....2....1 * * Thunderchild is go!

Well I'd say it is a siding off topic. It has to do with the topic at hand but it's not the through line. Not saying your wrong we are talking about pug tank engines. But I'm trying my best to locate info on one in particular "Pugsy" a geared saddle/pannier tank* from a sidings network. *I'm saying both saddle and pannier tank here because Sam's photo may or may not be Pugsy but a sister or brother that never gained saddle tanks and were Pannier all the time. Ah I find it funny that my family on my fathers side came from Scotland and me and my dad both love Pugs of all types. Iron or fuzzy they are adorable and dependable.

Looking great my friend. Small thing I just realized is it's going to be a pain figuring out the frame's exact shape on my French Tank. At least Pugsy is self explanatory from his photos. Thanks again for that photo over on the Pug topic.

Wow I didn't mean to cause a full on wreck of topic here nor a riot so to speak with my Pug comments. The term spread somehow and I first learned of it from Awdry's book myself. But I wasn't trying to imply he was the major reason just a push towards the nickname as it is today. I honestly like the use of Pug for certain tank engines just as I will always have a soft spot for the Terriers which live up to their name fully. Small, Nimble and stronger than they look.

Sam my friend you never fail to amaze me with your finds. That is quite clearly a vertical cylinder geared tank engine and by the looks od it I'd say it is quite close in build to Pugsy. I'd even go out on a limb and say it may even have been her at a earlier time with pannier tanks as opposed to later saddle arrangements the model depicts. I looked up the book in question for a image search on Google and found a photo of the other loco mentioned in that sale. Bristol is quite a interesting little loco too. I'm going to have to look into seeing if Abebooks has a copy of the book who knows may be affordable. Possibly even thanks to the Rev. Awdry helping it's use spread from Scotland. I'm quite aware that Pug was used mainly in the Caladonian, Highland and later LMS territorys and wasn't always a universal term for 0-4-0 STs. I was mearly stating my reasoning for it's origin in the first place. A Pug is a dog with a pushed in face and many steam engines considered Pugs are saddle tanks with the smokebox flush with the tank. In other words a pushed in face just like the dog. But that is just my theory and in all likelyhood it is wrong. It would be a interesting reason if you ask me since I find both kinds of Pugs adorable.

Hey all, Boy I do bounce around in my research. I suppose it just comes from my thirst of knowledge on locomotives and railway's coupled with my ADHD. Anyway for today;s disscusion I was looking for more photos of the French box tank I talked about over here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/120433-french-plm-0-6-0-cou-cou-shunting-box-tanks-no-1901-80/ and I ran across this A small 0-4-0 saddle tank shunter with a bit of a twist. This little Tank Engine is like a Shay, Climax, Heisler or even Sentinel vertical boilers in that it is a geared drive. The website I found it on http://home.btconnect.com/Enhance-Ecosse/llcase.html says the little engine is based off a Locomotive by the name of Pugsy which is a nice use of the Pug nickname which I think comes from the fact that most 0-4-0 saddle tanks which are most commonly called Pugs just happen to have their smokebox recessed under their tanks. But I digress back to Pugsy the little engine looks adorable and I have a soft spot in my heart for geared locos so anyone know more of the little shunter?

By all means I fully agree. After whay you managed with Rebecca I have total faith in your skill to build it from photos alone. Can't wait to see it my friend.