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I'd agree with that, I was expecting them to look terrible in real life but they aren't too bad. I don't know why they look so bad in photos, though.

They are couplings as used by Tillig:

Quite, though TTm is a recognised designation for TT 1:120 using 9mm track to represent metre gauge on the Continent, they accept the discrepancy, it's a lot closer for 3ft 6ins/1067mm gauge, though. I have some of the Shapeways bodies for future use as though I like TT scale I didn't like the 6.5mm track I used on my TTe layout, though that is spot on for 750/760mm gauge! Trying to sort out NG designations would give Andy an even bigger headache than this thread does!! 🤣

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Mmm, yes, they are not known for their accuracy of the designations! ;) TT3m?! :)

Update: Arrived today (I joined on the 10/10 like many others!)...

I'm not sure it's worth it, they've said they've been taken by surprise by the numbers and there'll be a delay, so sending an email just means someone else has to spend time replying! From what I've seen the main bit in the pack is a catalogue which is available online anyhow. The magazine is due to be sent separately by the publishers so they'll have no control over that. I'll give it another week or so I think! ;)

I'd see it as more of an "extra string to the bow" rather than them relying on those sales. Though, as plenty of people who are on Continental model railway forums have said, there's plenty of TT modellers over there who have already put in orders for the new trains and others expressing interest, so perhaps best not to dismiss it out of hand... Every little helps!

We'll have to wait and see springs to mind! 😉

Not really, I'm looking at it from a different angle to you, thats all. As I said non enthusiasts just see a steam engine, if the model looks similar they'll buy it. Time to agree to differ? :)

As it said Era 3 (Grouping) that's the only electric Pullman I could think of as well, so yes, it would appear to be so. We shall just have to wait and see. Not my scene but will please the Southern enthusiasts!

We were simply answering your comment: "LNER A1/A3/A4 and Duchesses, Castles, etc are modern now?" Acknowledging that whilst they aren't "modern" they are still around and known outside modelling circles and so will sell to non enthusiasts... Perhaps you need to explain where you are coming from because I think we may be misunderstanding one another! ;)

I joined on the 10th, same as Daryll, but nothing yet. I'd heard they have been taken by surprise at the numbers joining and weren't set up for the numbers, I'm in no rush and I collected a paper copy of the catalogue at Gaydon. I'm sure someone has said that the magazine is being sent out by the publishers rather than Hornby to relieve the preasure, it'll be interesting to see which gets to me first!!

Outside the enthusiast circles most people just see a streamlined steam loco and a light green one they know as Flying Scotsman, regardless of what it says on the nameplate, more to the point they "know" them. So as NCB and I have said they are part of the modern scene, same as heritage railways are, but they are better known than most heritage locos. It's got nothing to do with how old they are, it's just what people are familiar with and so likely to buy. So simply something that's likely to sell to non enthusiasts as well as enthusiasts, which is what they want.

Both modern and old, that's why Hornby selected them, well known by the 50s kids and well known working specials today. Regarding buildings I'm hoping Metcalf will do theirs in TT at some point, I've always thought they look better than the others.

Bit late in the day for that, I'd have thought, considering how much Hornby will have spent already, unless you know something we don't? Unfortunate timing, granted, but I feel too late in the day to back pedal.

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Nope, and nope! I just prefer the scale, and feel it's better than 00 or N! I'm sure I'm not alone in that as several others have expressed similar views. I sincerely hope that it doesn't cause the trouble you seem to think it is doing, what i see is a small number of people for reasons of their own (dislike of Hornby, the scale, they way it's being marketed, the list is endless!) knocking it and those views being blown out of all proportion, though I suppose if we'd had social media back then we'd have seen the same about P4, TT3, N and even 00 far enough back! I'd rather hoped that this thread would have been more constructive, though of late it's is becoming that as the furore dies down!

I doubt there's much nostalgia for the Stasi(!!), but there is a lot for the railways in those times, most German NG stock is based on the old East German lines mainly because they survived. Also TT is big in East Germany and Eastern Europe (second to H0) hence the models will reflect that interest.

Yes, in amongst the near 100 pages I'm sure they were mentioned, in amongst plenty of other locos which ran on British lines as well as on the Continent such as USA tanks, 8fs, etc., not to mention more recently many diesels and electrics. Plenty of crossovers which can be sold by Hornby/Arnold if they wish! The more we look at it the more sense one scale covers all makes.

Thought so, sorry to be picky! ;)

The set is also called The Scotsman, not The Flying Scotsman! :)

Peco don't use code 55 for any of their 009/H0e track, though I wish they did for the 009 track, since the launch of the Mainline I really wish they'd do a finer scale track system for 009 which would match the Heritage line's rails, code 55 would work well. (Not sure you meant it to read like that?!)

Many existing enthusiast will, I'm sure, but the ones they are aiming at won't and there's plenty of enthusiasts who already know TT and won't be worried. The more Hornby take it around shows the more people will see it as well. Warley next...

Yes, as you say, we are all guessing, and none of us have a crystal ball, nor are experts in this type of marketing, hence we are up to page 90!! Just out of interest I did the search and Hornby TT:120 came up in the first of the "Ads" just below where you cut off the page! ;)