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2 hours ago, sc2016 said:

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https://www.revolutiontrains.com/revolution-goes-tri-mode-with-rog/

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Revolution Trains is to produce the all-new Class 93 tri-mode locomotive being built for Rail Operations Group by Stadler as its first powered model in 00/4mm scale.

Class 93 image courtesy ROG/Stadler

 

Rail Operations Group has ordered ten of the new Class 93 locomotives, with options on a further 20, and the first is to be delivered in early 2023.

 

The Class 93 is designed to operate on 25kv overhead power supply, with an inboard diesel engine, or using heavy duty batteries; allowing it to be almost silent while in stations or other built up areas while optmizing efficiency across the network and maximizing low carbon benefits. The Class 93 will be able to run at speeds of up to 110mph and the diesel power unit is specified to be powerful enough for prolonged mainline running, not just ‘last mile’ operation.

 

Revolution Trains is delighted to have been chosen by ROG and Stadler to produce the Class 93 tri-mode locomotive, which is arguably the most exciting and innovative development on the real railway for many years.

Neil Bennett, Executive Chairman of Rail Operations Group, said: “Along with our well-established rolling-stock movement business, we have very exciting plans for the Class 93 including low-carbon logistics services operating at speeds of up to 110mph.  I am delighted to be working with Revolution Trains on reproducing the locomotive in model form.”

 

This will be Revolution’s first powered model aimed at 00 gauge/4mm scale modellers, but Revolution has already delivered, or is developing, six 00 wagons: TEA tankers, MMA/JNA ‘Ealnos’ box wagons, IZA Cargowaggon twins (a Kernow exclusive), IWA ‘Sfins2’ vans, IWA ‘Rfnoos’ timber carriers and FWA ‘Ecofret’ container flats.

 

The model will be to 4mm:1ft scale, 1:76.2 with RP25-110 wheels with space for EM/P4 fitting. They will feature our usual high levels of detailing including photo-etched and separate parts where appropriate, prototypical lighting arrangements, 21-pin DCC socket, and heavy metal chassis with full provision for DCC Sound. DCC Sound-fitted models will also be available.

 

We will offer multiple numbers, factory-fitted buffer-beam details at one end (though a spare NEM coupler will also be included for customers who wish to couple the loco at both ends) and we will investigate the provision of a DCC operated pantograph mechanism.

 

The full specification is subject to revision during the design phase, but will be confirmed by the time we open the order book.

 

Rail Operations Group’s core business is moving rolling stock around the network.

 

Rail Operations Group has exciting plans for the Class 93, and while initially they are likely to be used mainly to service ROG’s existing and well-established rolling stock movement business, the company also sees the locomotives being used as part of its proposed ‘Orion’ high speed centre-to-centre low carbon logistics trains as well as 110mph intermodal services. 

 

ROG is planning to begin trials of its first converted Class 319 units in April 2021. The image below show the first unit being unveiled last month.

 

The Class 93 models will be offered in ROG’s stylish green and black launch livery, and it is understood that they are to be named after Roman Gods.

 

The terms of the licence mean that ROG and Stadler will work closely with Revolution, sharing important technical specifications, 3D data and design drawings, to ensure the models are as accurate as possible and that any changes made during construction are incorporated.

 

Class 93 Initial Specification

 

• Heavy diecast chassis with smooth electric motor and flywheels and provision for DCC and Sound
• 4mm-ft/1:76.2 scale 00 (16.5mm) gauge, with provision for simple conversion to EM/P4
• Separately applied etched metal or fine plastic details
• NEM coupler sockets with fully detailed, factory-fitted bufferbeam at one end (second coupler in accessory pack)
• DCC provision: 21 pin decoder socket
• Prototypical lighting arrangements, switchable for DC users where necessary
• Twin speakers on sound-fitted models
• RP25 (110) wheels with provision for simple conversion to EM/P4
• We will investigate options for a DCC operated pantograph mechanism, though the pantograph itself will be cosmetic

 

It is intended that the models will be delivered as soon as possible after the prototypes enter service.

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https://www.revolutiontrains.com/fantas-car-tic-four-from-revolution/

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British Rail’s iconic and revolutionary Cartic-4 car carriers are the next 1960s era model to be offered by Revolution Trains.

 

Each four-unit articulated Cartic-4 set could carry 34 (1960s-sized) cars at up to 75mph. In total 538 Cartic-4s were constructed between 1966 and 1972, and they lasted in service until the mid 2000s.

 

40078 with empty Cartic-4s at Peterborough. Photo courtesy Paul James.

 

The Cartic-4 was developed jointly by BR and Ford following after the Beeching report of 1963 urged British Railways to focus on efficient block trains for freight and adopt fast, air-braked bogie wagons to replace its fleet of ageing and slow four-wheeled stock.

 

The design was radical at the time for freight stock – comprising a permanently coupled four-part vehicle in which the inner cars were linked via shared bogies on articulated joints – and two prototypes were constructed and trialled on traffic from Ford’s giant Dagenham plant in September 1964.

 

The production units differed slightly from the two prototypes, and the majority were built for private vehicle transporters MAT, Silcock & Collings and Tolemans, however some were also built by BR and used to launch its Motorail brand in 1966. This offered motorists the opportunity to take their car on holiday with them, with an extensive network of services between cities including London, Birmingham and Sheffield and Scotland, the South West and North Wales.

 

Out of holiday season, the Motorail-branded vehicles were often used alongside the rest of the fleet for new car deliveries. We will be offering as-built Cartic-4s in BR Motorail, MAT-Transauto and Silcock and Collings liveries.

 

 

In the 1984, following increasing incidents of vehicles becoming damaged in transit by stones, Silcock and Collings decided to add screens to the sides of the wagons. Some were also given corrugated roofs to protect vehicles from items dropped from overbridges; the roofs were hinged and could be raised to allow loading and unloading. Both these variants are being offered, and they often ran together in the same train.

 

85005 at Stratford in 1988. Photo courtesy Phil Richards.

 

 

This was a success, and within two years MAT had decided on similar measures, using Expamet mesh for its screens. The MAT fleet was inherited by STVA when it took over, and the Cartic-4s, by now coded PJA under TOPS, were refurbished and repainted into its pale grey livery.

 

47309, also at Stratford, with MAT mesh-sided car carriers in 1991. Photo courtesy Michael Hart.

 

A very small number of the MAT sets received roofs, however they were to a different design and are not being included.

 

 

STVA also decided to remove the top decks from three sets, and run them as single deck units primarily for light commercial vehicles; these lasted in use until 2013 however they are not being offered as they also featured some strengthening additions which would not be practical to tool.

 

 

BR drawings have been sourced and CAD work is underway. The models will feature our usual high levels of detailing, with the brake gear on the underside, accurate representations of the deck tread arrangement and separate parts including plastic and photo etched ladders, screens and roofs.

Preliminary CAD work has started following the Chinese New Year holiday. 

 

Once CAD is complete the models will be available to pre-order.

Hi, Just a quick question but does anybody know if there has been any images of the other decorated sample shown or is it just the VTG Ecofret version?

Thanks,

Samuel.

I predict that Hornby will announce:

• A New Tool Small Locomotive already at livery stage
• New Tool 4-6-2 Steam Locomotive
• 2 Ranges of Newly Tooled Coaches
• New Tool Brake Van
• Class 802

2 minutes ago, phil-b259 said:

We have already established that models DO NOT share tooling!

 

Remember Hornby etc do not manufacture the models themselves - they contract it out to lots of different factories in China and having one set of tooling that has to be passed around is going to massively restrictive.

 

As such if Hornby wished to model the new EMT variant then they would create a complete set of tooling for the model!

 

The only thing they gain from having already made the 800s etc is the CAD files being mostly the same so the new tooling can be produced my more quickly than that for the original class 800 models where the CAD files had to be done from scratch.

I reckon that even the CADs would have to be done from scratch due to the shorter length and the revised front end and headlights.

19 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

Yes that's true, as far as I am aware the rest will be 26m with similar front ends but I aren't sure if the 805 and 807 are set in that respect yet?

 

The bodies may need redoing and some other bits but I'd say most of the smaller bits would be transferrable, so it wouldn't be back to square one I don't think.

The 805's and 807's appears to be the standard design there are a few images of the Class 805 body shells already shown. 

I think that it would be probably better to completely create a new set of tools for the 810 otherwise it would mean that some tools would wear out quicker as they would be used for multiple different IET classes. Also i don't know if there would be other differences due to them having four engines on a five car train so even the smaller bits may not be as transferable as they seem.   

3 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

 

Or that somebody in Drax (who maybe had no idea about model railways) is thinking "somebody has approached us about making these because there's a business case, and we CAN make these, why aren't we?"

 

 

2000 made isn't it? Wasn't there 1000 of each?

Yeah 1000 of Each R6723 Swoosh & R6724 Powering Tomorrow.

7 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

Yes, Drax commissioned them. The point being that if it was a one off never to happen again then I'd expect that an agreement would probably have been able to have been come to (what's the point in having an exclusivity agreement if you're never going to actually make the item you have exclusivity on again). If anything the Revolution thing may have set Hornby or Drax thinking about doing more, if somebody can justify tooling it in N and selling them at £70 for 2 then maybe they'd sell well in OO with bigger run at a more sensible price.

It may off got them thinking about producing more oo gauge models due to the Revolution N Gauge version.

The only trouble for more models is that Drax owns the tools compared to the N Gauge version which will be owned by Revolution.

Just now, Dunsignalling said:

Very probably, but I wonder if any embargo in the Drax contract on Hornby making more perhaps had an expiry date or only applied while the livery on the first batch was current?

 

The numbers coming out of the woodwork suggest some owners think they'll never be worth more than they are this week....

 

John

I reckon that there wouldn't be an embargo on Hornby producing more but the tooling was owned by Drax themselves so Hornby wouldn't have been able to produce more unless Drax give them permission to use the tools. Perhaps people are hoping that the tooling transfers or have transferred to Hornby as it has been a few years since they were produced.

26 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

 

Which I think the 800 is in that respect a masterstroke assuming they can and want to adapt the tooling easily for the rest of them (now there are 800, 801, 802, 803, 805, 807 and 810, was 804).

I would have thought that it would require new tooling to create the 810s as they are shorter and also got a different front end compared to the other IET Classes. 

46 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

As I think I said earlier in the thread, Revolution said they couldn't do OO because of Hornby IIRC (or words to that effect) which to me means there is a finger on the pulse, not "We made them, they'll never happen again" as if that's the case why not let Revolution do it. I'd have thought they'd have done an EOI at least in OO if they could.

I think that iirc Hornby was contacted by Drax themselves to do the hoppers in oo gauge so it is probable that Drax/ Hornby have got an exclusivity agreement for the OO Gauge Model so no else would be able to do it. A bit like Dapol with the Class 68 and Accurascale with the Mk5 Coaches.

32 minutes ago, gelboy45 said:

As Accurascale are asking for EOI for a 00 scale Class 73/9 would you consider the possibility of an n scale model too? 

 

Gerry

As far as i know it is not Accurascale asking for EOI for a 00 Scale class 73/9 it is infact KMS Railtec that is. Accurascale would be the manufacturer. 

7 hours ago, cheesysmith said:

As long as they are both accurate to the real thing, I have no problem with two manufacturers making these. The only problem would be if there was minor differences because of the tooling limitation that would prevent mixing models.

I don't think that there are just two manufacturers making these or more specially the CDAs theres the Hornby version and then i have seen images online of another person measuring up the CDAs that doesn't work for the other three companies (Accurascale, Cavalex & Hornby) but no announcement from them and they do make models so there is potentially 4 models to/have come (1 Older & 3 Newer). 

Nice to see that Accurascale have updated the artwork of 37425 so that the model will be same as the one running as it is on the network without the Regional Railways branding.

I wasn't orginally going for a Class 37/4 model as the real ones mainly stay up country which due to trying to reduce the amount of models that i would like to buy i set a criteria off only buying the models of railway stock that have traveled down or been around the Cornwall area although a few models do get past that doesn't fit the criteria. But after last week of seeing 37425 Sir Robert McAlpine/Concrete Bob on the mainline at Bodmin it has changed my mind so i will be ordering it at one of Accurascales retailers.

Accurascale seem to have struck again as this will be yet another purchase that i wasn't planning to buy of them which now includes PFAs and when released the Nuclear KUAs which visits nearby Devonport. 

Image below taken from video i took of 37425.

2 hours ago, Simon Bendall said:

New Avanti Pride livery on 390119

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYrlVoTyko0

Good luck chaps

That livery will certainly give a headache to whoever be in charge of putting livieries onto models if it was chosen to be produced.

I have noticed that Dapol have announced today (03/07/2020) a new batch of MK3 DVT’s and Sets in N gauge.

The four items that have been announced are:

• 2D-017-003 – DVT 82115 in BR Blue
• 2D-017-004 – DVT 82124 in Network Rail Yellow
• 2D-017-100 – DB Management Train 4 Piece Rolling Stock Set
• 2D-017-101 – Chiltern Railways 8 Piece Slam Door Set with DVT

Expected Qtr1 2021.

I know it will be unlikey but has anyone seen the Groupe Cat blue liveried IPA Set out and about or seen images/video of it as it left Eastleigh Works on 11th June 2020 behind 66084. 

@dibber25 Now that the 16xx have reached the painted sample stage have the shedcodes been finalised for each locomotive that has one?

Thanks,

Samuel. 

@Gaugemaster Controls, Just to let you know that the title of the thread is wrong it should be 153 not 135.

Samuel.

I have noticed that Dapol have annouced a new batch of Class 153's in N gauge.

The two liveries that have been announced are:

• 2D-020-003 – 153369 Wessex Trains
• 2D-020-004 – 153323 Arriva Trains Wales

Both come either DCC Ready or DCC Fitted.

Also Gaugemaster have also announced two limited editions as part of the Gaugemaster Collection which include:

• GM2210401 – 153329 Revised First Great Western
• GM2210402 – 153380 GWR Green

On 22/06/2020 at 13:19, Mooresby said:

Even though i've never seen one running on the GWR mainline this won't stop me from getting one (or two).  Looks seriously impressive - well done so far guys!

I don't think that any Class 92s have runned on the GWR Mainline so far but there was going to be a GBRF railtour running later this year which has been posponed until next year of a Class 92 running on the GWR mainline from Cardiff to London. So there will be a good reason to have one although the railtour will probably use a GBRF or Caledonian Sleeper liveried one. 

A couple of Bargains from Kernow Model Rail Centre:

 (Part of their Exhibition Special this weekend)

• 31-651Z 47973 Midland Counties (KMRC Limited Edition) £99.99
• 32-727W 66709 GBRF Sorrento (KMRC Limited Edition) £99.99
• 32-295DS 37669 West Coast Railway Company £199.99
• N Gauge 371-465Z 37207 BR Blue Cornish Railways (KMRC Limited Edition) £99.99

Also this one appears good value compared to latest Bachmann RRPs with it also being the Only 150/2 available in FGW Livery and being a Limited Edition.

• 32-395X Class 150/2 First Great Western 150216 £189.95

On 21/03/2020 at 14:13, 66738 said:

The modern railway scene is not really my thing, but it surely can’t be long until saloon ‘Caroline’  is announced by someone. Accurascale’s 37/4 would be the perfect accompaniment to her. 
66738

On 29/03/2020 at 23:17, MrJack47790 said:

Hello

Having watched the introduction video by Gareth Bayer i have a strong felling the inspection saloon caroline will be coming around as he mentions it specifically

I would definitely get one and a 37/4 if it was announced.

On 29/03/2020 at 23:35, newbryford said:

 

Having already done 37423 and Caroline, all I can say is.

"No Accurascale, no........"

On 09/04/2020 at 11:39, TomScrut said:

 

I'd be keen too. I have a 68 I could run it with, and I am likely (OK, who am I kidding, almost certainly) will be getting one or more of these 37s.

Hi @66738, @MrJack47790, @newbryford & @TomScrut.

I know this is in Accurascale's section of RMWeb but the inspection coach Caroline has tonight (26/05/2020) been announced by Revolution Trains in 00 Gauge.

Samuel

5 hours ago, surfsup said:

 

I can't say for Cornwall but they did venture into Devon as Timber Carriers - often found mixed with the KFA (ex Cargowaggon type) on the Teigngrace & Riverside Yard logs. 

 

Rich  

5 hours ago, Western Aviator said:

Very unlikely Samuel. I think the farthest west these wagons have been is Newton Abbot for the Teigngrace traffic. I don’t think there has been any timber traffic in Cornwall in the modern era. 

Thanks @surfsup & @Western Aviator for replying.

I thought that they didn't venture into Cornwall but when looking up on the subject there was a website stating that they did visit Cornwall but with no evidence of where or when they did i thought i would ask on here just in case anybody know either way. 

Samuel.