sem34090

WRONG THREAD!

YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH!!! I should have time to do it this week...

James, I have noticed this critcism of Oxford Rail following their unforgivable mishaps with 2309, but I can honestly say that they made a fair job of the 0415! I didn't notice the lack of space under the boiler for a good month after it was given to me, and it must be remembered that some of them were available for half the price of the Hornby one. My one also pulled more than a Hornby one. It is of course 488 in LSWR Pea Green (The Coal Rails came off immediately, and the coal load was lowered until I get some real coal in there!), and a very beautiful model it is. I also have about 7 of their RCH 7-Plank opens (Colliery Layout project...) and they are far superior to my Hornby (ex-Dapol/Airfix) ones that are sold for the same price! I know you have a soft spot for the GWR, and for them to ruin one of that company's locomotives so horribly will be unforgiveable in your eyes (I'm glad I repainted my mainline one into pre-grouping livery before release!), but I think you can at least wait for the N7 to come out before further criticism! Look on the bright side: other than commissions, all their locos so far announced are pre-grouping! Just a comment, take it how you will!

If you want, I can rejig them for the C Class and terrier: I have both, but you can do the O1! Sorry. I have both GBL and Bachmann C's, and multiple Hornby terriers...

So, I asked recently for requests, but on second thoughts I decided to select a short-ish list of locos I am considering doing next, along with a few other questions. I can't promise how long it will be until they are made available for sale, but I could do with getting them done all the same! Any Questions? Yes? My greatest apologies sir, but no we don't do cycling lions. I am most awfully sorry sir, but you understand that this is the pre-grouping segment of this board on which ideas can be exchanged. Good Day sir, if I may escort you to the door...

Oh dear. You tired Kevin? Or have you been visting Castle Aching, or even Paltry Circus?

Look forward to seeing how you get on with them!

I currently own 32662 (Martello), 81 (Beulah, I think, or was 81 Boxhill?), Waddon and Fulham. Wouldn't stop me buying a retooled one though. Doubt I'd ditch the old ones, but would buy a retool to match them.

Just noticed you were actually asking about how to attach them: I use UHU as my all-purpose glue of choice, and it seems to do the job here.

Indeed... Hence why, when looking to create my own pre-grouping locos, I immediately turned to 3D Printing! My sole example so far, a HO Scale LBSCR Class D1 0-4-2T (from Imaterialise, printed in their equivalent of Shapeways' WSF) had a smooth enough finish to just paint it an put the transfers on!

Well... Quite the response I see! First of all, my apologies! I admit to having forgotten to include the L&YR and Mersey Railway in the OP! Both Third rail and overhead on the L&Y I seem to remember. I know Mr Simon Dawson (Rue D'etropal on here) has produced 3D CAD for the L&YR (Along with their BR Successors), LNWR (Again, along with the BR Replacements), LBSCR and possibly also NER ones, and I think he was looking at Mersey Railway stock too. I'm tempted at some point to build a ficitonal layout, featuring a 'generic' suburban station, plus a small goods yard, usually set in West London. It would be set between 1900 & 1930, and normally would feature LSWR 3rd Rail and LBSCR Overhead stock, perhaps with 3rd Rail in the foreground, and stopping at the station, and the overhead in the background and not stopping. The goods yard would provide Steam action, and the generic nature of the station and scenery would be West-London based, but with the ability to run stock from any of the other Electric systems, maybe with L&Y stock running on both, LNWR on both, NER on both, LNWR or L&YR on Overhead and Mersey on 3rd Rail. For me it would be something I might do in 3mm, or even 2mm, rather than 4mm scale due to the increased space for the units, and the fact that it would be something different! Also, 3D prints get cheaper as you get smaller... gets me back to my Bushey plan in 2mm, featuring the viaduct at the front, with Oerlikons and early Bakerloo stock crossing it and on into Bushey station, then down alongside the WCML into the fiddle yard. In the background on the mainline would be a multitude of LNWR and early LMS stock, probably late LMS initially for ease, all steam hauled. That said, LBSCR AC may happen in 00... I'll need to look into that a bit more, as I would intend to do it on a 'Minories' Style layout, possibly with the overhead designed so it can be removed should I not wish it to be there for some reason! Oh, and Fellburn looks stunning! I'll shuddup now.

I just used normal paper, but would be interested to see results with white transfer paper!

A bit of an interest of mine here... Thought I'd set up a topic for the general discussion of pre-grouping electrics! There were a fair few systems about, my personal favourites being the NER and LBSCR Overhead systems, with some artwork for the units of the latter drawn up already. I just find them interesting, as they are much more overlooked than the overlooked era itself! That's all for now! DISMISSED!

Always helps when you attach stuff, doesn't it! SECR Class R1, Wainwright & Wartime livery pack (Revised).pdf

Good for you! Whilst I have no interest in yellow boxes on wheels (My apologies!), I appreciate that holds interest for you, and that excellent modelling results! I've learnt that, just because something is outside a persons 'bubble', it isn't worth any less. Indeed one of the best layouts I ever saw was a French S Scale layout set in the 1950's: so as far out of my interests as anything else! At this particular show I spent more time engrossed by this layout than a beautiful LSWR era one I saw...

Any and all of them!!! I enjoy doing them, but where someone else has already done them I'd rather use those! For now though, here's the ammended R1 Sheet, colour matched from the terrier, both for green and Indian red. Interestingly they match up well with pictures I took of No.263 before Hornby cunningly repainted her to match their model...

Proof that someone younger than the general age category does model pre-grouping! My current LBSCR (1900 - 1914) layout, Salvington: A quick layout, it took roughly 12 hours to build in total, and another 12 to dry! More of a photo-plank and a test for over-the-sleepers ballasting. Bufferstops are modifed Peco, both buildings are Peco, Overbridge is Superquick, and the hillside was built up from sponges covered in PVA-Soaked loo roll! Quite pleased with the overall result, and it will do until I get around to building myself a proper LSWR/LBSCR joint layout, most likely to now be an LBSCR 'Minories' with either LSWR or SECR visitors (Never both, but maybe SECR & GER, or LSWR & GWR, and maybe even NLR! Or even District Railway... we'll see.), possibly featuring LBSCR AC Electrics. See, just because I model pre-grouping doesn't mean I don't have any interest in Electrics! I'm actually rather interested in pre-grouping electrics (The NER Had them, the LNWR, Mersey, LSWR and LBSCR all had them!) and in most things LUL related! Not so keen on diesels though. I have a few in the BR(S) fleet and a couple in the NCB fleet too, but on the whole I have little interest in them.

I hadn't until I saw a video on youtube about it and its application to model railways! For a while now, I've had multiple attempts at catalogueing everything, but got bored after a certain number of locos. I saw this as having several advantages in that: There is an image of each item, useful (say) to have at a show when packing up for operators other than yourself to know what's yours. It's online, so I doubt I'll ever lose it. Whilst I've chosen to make mine public, you can make it private. In this case, for me, the online storage makes sense because, at a show, you can easily get it up on your portable Tele-phonetic wireless communications & researching device (Mobile Phone, to the commoners whom inhabite the modern world beyond the realms of this quasi-Edwardian forum!) It's easy to add and delete items. I take a photo of each item, then upload it with enough information for me to identify each item. It's free! Usual disclaimer applies... I highly recommend the GRAmodels Wagon & Coach kits, I had that 42ft bogie built within an hour!

And I thought the pre-grouping forum was sooo civilised... Should've known really: been browsing this forum for at least two years as a non-member!

Silence for a year... a whole year! Well, we can't be having that now, can we?! Mr E. D. W. Ardian suggested in another thread that he has revisted this topic, and thus I can conclude this post in all confidence with: BUMP!!!

Glad to hear that! May I also post a request to all members visiting here from the (un! ) civil parish of Castle Aching, situated in East Anglia, that the PCC here in Oak Hill will not tolerate such atrocious behaviour as the posting of images depicting female actors wearing limited clothing. All such imagery as this will be immediately removed, and may be destroyed, without prior notice. Carry on...

Thanks for the images Gary, and yes: the E2 is Goods Black (If I can dig it out!) I think a separate thread is called for on the other debate I started! However, I will further state my opinions on this matter: I mostly purchase RTR or Second-Hand kitbuilt locos, as that is the cheapest option available to me. I'm beginning to choose that, when a new RTR model is released, I will look for people who are selling on kitbuilt ones. That way I get a cheap loco that I can then have the pleasure of detailing and doing what I want with. Unfortunately I am struggling to find unbuilt second-hand kits, and the price of new ones is sometimes totally prohibitive! I simply cannot afford to spend £125 (DJH S15) on a loco kit which then requires extra expenditure on top. I wouldn't even buy RTR at more than £110, my Hornby S15 costing £80. In fact, at the time I bought the S15, I also bought a renamed Hornby 'Exeter' West Country for £50, then Five wagons for £10. All for the cost of buying 'Exeter' new at current RRP! As much as I would love to build more kits, my constant worry is spending at least £40-£50 on a loco which may never get finished and I may wreck during the building of! It's not a lack of willingness to have a go (I'd love to!) but the cost of making mistakes with a kit. For that same £40 I bought two locos today, which I will get pleasure out of by detailing and repainting.

So, to halt all questionable talk about worms and laptops... I accquired a few more locos today, namely a very nicely rewheeled Triang M7 (Finished in a certain SR Black livery another modeller who occasionally hangs around this parish...) which will possibly end up in LSWR Drummond Green (I have overlays for that livery...) and (More interestingly, for me anyway) my first Welsh Loco! A Wills Finecast Taff Vale Railway U1 Class 0-6-2T, both accquired part-exchange for some old LMS stock I had, finished in a questionable GWR Lined green which features very poor handpainted lining! It will in due course be finished in TVR Livery (Lined Black isn't it?), almost certainly using overlays in part, to be able to run on my colliery layout as a semi-preserved loco (as per the preserved NSR 0-6-2T whilst in coal board service), and if I fancy running the layout (set in South Wales, somewhere near Mountain Ash, which was on the TVR system) in an earlier era with PO wagons aplenty and Manning Wardles instead of Austerities... Will resume work on the Baltic on Monday whilst I attend to the new purchases (getting them photographed and added to my catalogue here: https://www.snupps.com/sem34090, not a complete list yet, especially with regards to hauled stock!) and continue building the O-16.5 loco that will be finished in LBSCR Improved Engine Green. I suspect my next pre-grouping layout will emerge after the Colliery layout. I had intended to build a BR(S) BLT (Don't, Just Don't... ) but given how common those have become, I suspect it may take the form of the LBSCR Era 'Minories' suggested on another thread...

Oh don't worry about Waterloo! They've got an 0415 and a forthcoming M7 to pull their bogie coaches (Highly recommended resin kits by GRAmodels.), so nothing to wrry about there. I have more LBSCR Locos than LSWR ones (In LSWR Livery, the opposite is true for B****sh R*****ys stock!) but the inverse is true for coaches at the moment...

Goods black, as it should be! Will need to try and dig it out of my Hard Drive... I suspect I'm not the only one who finds your work very inspiring! And Thanks for the transfers... very useful!