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Hi Edward, The book is one of a series by Anthony M Ford called "Pullman Profile", there are five books on the series so far listed below; The 12 Wheel Cars The Standard 'K-Type' Cars The All-Steel 'K-Type' Cars The Brighton Belle and Southern Electric Pullmans The Golden Arrow Book 2 is the book you will have noticed in the picture, unfortunately it is out of print and had to wait some time to get a copy. My copy was supplied by the book shop form the NYMR at Grosmont. George the chap that runs it was very helpful in sourcing and supplying it, his email is below. shopgrosmontbooks@gmail.com The book does not contain full drawings in all cases but as carriage lengths and window sizes and spacing's are fairly standard working from photographs is quite easy once you have had a good look at what you wish to model. The book does give excellent information of names, numbers and services that the cars were used upon and also in a lot of cases what colour the both the lamp shades and the upholstery of the seats were so you may paint them the correct colour. The wooden panelling in mine are painted BR Bauxite, no marquetry ! Gibbo.

Hi RGA, I think that the etheric [daft] title may well have a lot to do with it !!!! Gibbo.

Hi Corbs, I've just had a quick edit in that the one shewn is the N gauge one. The OO gauge ones will all be motorised with Tenshodo motor bogies, I have two on order at the moment and should I do enough (too much) work next week I'll buy another two. Already planning more possible avenues of nonsense. Gibbo.

Hi Paul, Here is what may well be the inspiration for the Locomotive from Chigley: https://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/24/Gazelle.htm Gibbo.

Hi Folks, Here is the first of the Kearsley electric shunters, it is the N gauge one. So far finished with the exception of its pantograph which is currently on order. The bogies are from a Graham Farish bolster wagon and are of the diamond type. They have been altered by gluing a top stretcher over the pivot boss that is formed from a cross with a hole in it, to which false sides were attached. The false sides are glued around the top and ends of the original bogie frame which were then attached to the ends of the top stretcher by end plates. Once cued they were filled u to make sure they were square and also to shape the top edges over the ends and then representations of springs and sand boxes were attached. Attachment of the bogies to the underframes is via two stainless steel self tapping screws salvaged from my erstwhile shower screen. The cab roof was fitted after the inside of the cab was painted black and is made from a square of .080" plasticard that fits to the same size as the cab sides and front and is filled to form the arc of the roof. Once secured a .010" square of plasticard which was cut slightly oversize to finish dimension was glued to the top of it, when cured it was filed to suit giving the required overhang. The buffers are made from Triang Mk1 brass buffer heads that scale at 24" which seems about right when scaling from photographs. They also give good representation of the industrial type short shank buffers too The body is painted in Humbrol Matt 104 blue which seems to be a good match against various photographs with the buffer beam painted yellow and black. The style of marking on the buffer beam is of alternate diagonal lines and not the more usual chevron pattern. Gibbo. Edit: Forgot to mention buffers.

Hi TS, As original the drivers were 3'9" or you could use a motor bogie as suggested the other day. It is so small you might get away with it. Gibbo.

Hi TS, How about this for a crazy locomotive ? https://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/24/Gazelle.htm It looks like the original inspiration for the locomotive form Chigley, yes I am that old. Gibbo.

Hi Folks, I've been enjoying this thread in the time that it has been going and should I find my old photos I'll scan and post them. However there was a post a few pages back that mentioned the colour of the roofs being a shade of greyish-beige representing the translucent glass fibre roofs. In the following link, post 38, there are four class 25's shewing their roof colours, one of which is ex works and is indeed a greyish beige. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/56107-breakdown-traincrane/page-2 I am of an age that when Hornby first released a blue class 47 I was confused that it had a blue roof. the reason was because all of the ones I had ever seen were black with soot form the exhaust ! Gibbo.

Hi Kieth, What you suggest is an early GWR version of what I built on post 3959 a few pages back ! A couple of Dapol Prairie tanks and some other spare bits and hey presto we could have a forerunner of the BR Std Kitson-Meyer. Gibbo.

Hi Mick, I've not had any bother doing it cold previously but there are three stiffening ribs for a belt and braces job. Thanks for the input all the same. Gibbo.

Hi Kevin, Again, I broadly agree with what you say. As for the pub landlord thread, I thought it would be locked in less time than I can hold my breath, I also think that they didn't so much lock the door as take the wooden one off, replace it with a steel one, then weld it shut !!! Gibbo.

Hi Folks, After all of yesterdays industry with industrials, all I've done today model wise is to fit and paint the buffers to the N gauge tamper and liner. Gibbo.

Hi Sem, How about; Sodomita - Italian Bouffon - French Bliksem - Afrilaans мудак (Mudak) - Russian Google Translate can be fun. Gibbo.

Hi Kevin, There is a lot to be said for the reference frame of the observer in what you have said, of which what you say is quite right. I think that point is more that we need to understand that the currency we use as money within society really ought to be based upon production and creation based activity relating actual physical value rather than monetised debt which is where all this inflation actually comes from. What I mean by that is that in a world that has constantly evolving and more efficient means of production our currency ought to rise in purchase power, but it does not, it decreases, how so ? ​My feeling is that such sustained low interest rates shew the true projected future value of the currency with which you will use to buy your dinner with one way or another. As for the thing we must not mention, would there have been a connection in a thread you posted earlier in the week between a publican and the little plan dreamt up by Hjalmar Schacht and chums in 1941 ? Gibbo.

Hi Giles, According to Alan Greenspan the rise in house prices is all to do with low interest rates in so much that the interest rate indicates the quality of credit offered and also the future value of money. To put it another way, any particular house is still worth one house but the value of the currency has fallen significantly. We shall see soon enough the price of food catch up with this as food retains its value as the the price of currencies against food plummets. We will no doubt be lied to again when we are told that it is because of food shortages just as we have a housing shortage. Gibbo.

Hi Folks, I've been busy with the Kearsley electric shunters today having cut out all of the cab windows and assembled the body superstructures. First, each of the the cab spectacle plates were glued in place to a body side piece in a handed manner and then, once cured, the two sides, each with a spectacle plate, were glued together. Doing four at once gives time for the structures to cure to a reasonable set that they may be handled and once at that stage the assembly was checked for square and placed upon the underframe. After again checking for square and that all datum points sit in a centrally placed position I ran a bed of glue around the inside of the cab sides to stick it down to the top surface of the underframe. When the cab section of the superstructure was sufficiently cured I then checked the bonnet sides for position along the edges of the underframe and ran a bead of glue to secure them also while using a steel rule as a straight edge to ensure that they remained true. Most handily Plastruct 3/8" tube is just right for the radii at the front ends of the bonnets, the distance between the side pieces were measured individually and a piece cut and the ends filed square so that they are a sliding fit in between the sides. Some of the tubes required a slight flat to be filed upon the under side as fitted to make sure that they fitted flush with the top edges of the sides but only by a fraction of a millimetre. Across the front of the bonnet a 3mm strip of .030" plasticard was fitted with the top edge feathered to allow for a reduced step onto the tube, this will be later filled with Milliput and sanded back to flush. The tops of the bonnets were similarly treated except that I fitted a piece across the fronts of the spectacle plates so that the bonnet top had a location to allow for accurate positioning, again the edge that met the tube was feathered to allow for a neat fit. I also decided an N gauge version was in order so that is going through the works at the same time as the production batch ! A pleasant surprised arrived in the post in the form of a rebate from the thieves at HMRC which was immediately banked and spent on two Tenshodo motor bogies. At least half of the fleet will be motorised as built and the second two may be built in a way that conversion is a very simple operation. Winner !!! One job that didn't go too well was that I was not happy with the depth of plating between the spectacle plate windows and the tops of the bonnet so I glued fillets of .040" plasticard into the bottoms of those windows which has improved the looks considerably. In 24 hours or so they will be sufficiently cured to be able to pare back and sand flush. Shewing the tube arrangement at the front of the bonnet and the location for the bonnet top fixed to the cab front. The production batch and the N gauge extra. As I forgot yesterday here is a link to gallery with photos of three of the four locomotives; https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/Miscellaneous/Industrial-railways-North/i-ZWzqRm2/A Gibbo.

Hi TS. With regard to adhesion problems for the Nielson would it be a possible idea to adapt a Black Beetle power bogie or similar to drive the carrying wheels and have the actual driving wheels un-driven and lightly sprung ? This one has 40mm wheel base http://www.3smr.co.uk/BBdata.pdf There are various types on the website that may adapt. http://motorbogies.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1 Just a thought, and thoughts are free ! Gibbo.

Hi Andy, Mine is six inch but I don't use it as a rule. Gibbo.

Hi Jonny, After hours they have races and use them as Scalextric lane changers ! Actually probably not. Gibbo.

Oh No !!! I was just going to go to the stand alone outdoor storage facility to requisition my very own organically powered excavation implement. Gibbo.

Hi Folks, This will sort the "Snowflakes" from "True Humanity", the relevant section starts at 44:06. Quite some excellent use of the vernacular by Mr Allen within the piece Don't go arguing amongst yourselfs too much about it all now !!! Gibbo

Hi jjb1970, A superbly eloquent comment, you are right on the money ! Gibbo.

Hi Clive, Will the L&YR line eventually pass Kearsley Power Station ? Gibbo.

Kearsley Power Station - Hawthorn Leslie Electric / BTH Locomotives. After some amount of thinking, measuring and drawing I have satisfied myself that I have enough information to be able to build a reasonably accurate models of the locomotive that worked at Kearsley Power Station sited on the north west side of Manchester. I have vague recollections of seeing them in the exchange sidings on rare trips to Manchester in the 1970's and early 1980's and actually have worked upon two of them, No.2 and No.4, fitting air brake equipment to them in 1993. From what I remember only No.4 was converted for use with No.2 as a spare. The reason for the fitting of air brakes was that both the railway and nuclear inspectorates were not impressed that Heysham Power Station were pulling the strings on the flask wagons and taking them in and out of the loading bay as swingers ! The four locomotives were built by Hawthorn Leslie, latterly Robert Stephenson & Hawthorn in 1928, 1936, 1944 and 1946 respectively with BTH traction equipment. Powered by a 500 volt overhead system the first pair were 180 hp and the second were up-rated to 260 hp. All four of the locomotives were withdrawn in 1982 with No.1 going to the Manchester Museum of Science and Industry, No. 2 is at the Tanfield Railway, No.3 was scrapped and No.4 converted to battery power for use at Heysham Nuclear Power Station, now at the Suburban Electric Railway Centre along with No1. I have been busy with the knife and file having cut out the bed plates and the buffer beams which wee fabricated into the underframes using some 3mm deep Plastruct channel section which then received some gusseting behind the buffer beams. The next job was the sides and cab spectacle plates in which I have cut and filled out all of the windows. There are differences in the body styles in that No.1 has a smaller cab and consequently the angle of the bonnet is shallower, and also the spectacle plate of No.4 has three windows instead of the two of all of the other locomotives. I am using cut and shut Hornby 75 ton crane Stokes bogies for the side frames of the bogies, two of which gave up their buffers for the Y6 projest just the other day. The side frames of Nos. 2, 3 & 4 have so far been dealt with as they are of the same pattern but those of No.1 have an equalised spring arrangement which requires more work that I have not yet done. To make the side frames I cut off the "W" irons of the Stokes bogies removing the ladders and the brake detail from one spring and then inserted a piece of 10mm X12mm X .040" plasticard between them and two 3mm X 10mm X.040" pieces onto the ends while mounted upon a flat surface with the lower edge against a straight edge. The under side of my aluminium mitre box is just the job for this. To reinforce the joints a strap piece of 6mm X 48mm X .020" was glued to the inside face of the bogie frames, this will allow clearance for the wheel sets when assembled. It is intended that the locomotive will be motorised using either Black Beetle or Tenshodo motor bogies with 10.5mm wheels and 26mm wheel base but for now they will be built as static models and converted as funds allow. Progress so far. Gibbo. Edit: I only spot spelling mistakes after posting

Hi sub39h, If you cut a panel short work out by how much and then simply glue a strip of plasticard onto on of the ends of the panel, wait until the glue has fully cured and then pare back and file flush. When you then reassemble the panels into a full side you should, if you do your sums right, have everything lined up and the right length. Gibbo.