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Thanks for the help. This will thread will obviously disappear as new threads are posted. In all honesty, there's no way I'd find that, not freqenting every facet of this vast forum. Good offers, dare I say 'bargains' should be made more prominent than that ... as indeed I made it ... thinking I wasn't the only one who didn't know there was a bargain central thread somewhere ... Al.

Not yet, but dreaming of it .... !! Al.

I think it is excellent and proactive sales support by 'Hattons Dave'. Even on YT, Hattons have produced a video explaining the new locomotives' little possible foibles and that axleboxes can be glued back in - and how to glue them. Do you really think it's necessary? If it was a steam locomotive, and a vacuum pipe came off, does it require a video to show you how to replace it? What point I'm making? I'm not certain! It's great that Hattons were onto it immediately, but it's VERY MINOR in what is a superb game-changing locomotive I reckon. Al.

Neither was I. I simply made it the most prominent for those who may be interested. Next time I have all day to read the forum, I'll look out for that thread ... Al.

I was thinking that, but I was after a game-changing model. I suppose if 'that Margate-based company' mould a body which matches the quality of their A4 iteration, it won't be that bad ... just curious what one of the new guys on the block could come up with ... Al.

Dear Accurascale, FIRSTLY, HAVE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS - you all deserve it after the efforts you've made this last year. I recognise that virtually all of your 'merchandise' relates to pretty modern image - Deltics do go back a little, as do 37's but they're still in the modern image of things. How about a coup and producing a 'Steamie', but more importantly one which doesn't appear to have been mentioned on other manufacturers' sites, so far, but which will be pretty fantastic ... There are a group of fantastic enthusiasts in Doncaster, South Yorkshire preparing to re-build a 'Bugatti-nosed' (A4-style) P2 Cock o' the North. How about replicating that one? Al.

Sale on at Rails - for those interested. Get it while you can - still an excellent locomotive, now at a temporarily fantastic price. Al.

I think you've got an instant top-seller here - very popular locomotive, and doubtless the detailing will be superb. I'm not ready for one myself, I'll stick with 37 001 for now, but it looks fantastic. Al.

Totally agreed. I've had to dig out a SCX Digital set for my youngest, and despite setting the 'magnadhesion equivalent' close to the track he's managed to get the Peugeot 908 Le Mans GT1 prototype to fly off enough times to break the mirrors 3x!! There is quite a lot of 'finer detail' on the relatively modern cars, but nowhere near what you'll find on modern model locomotives. I always spend up to a minute figuring out just where to pick them up from before even touching them!! Al.

I am very happy with my Freightliner Patriot. There is a huge amount of finer detailing parts fitted - none has fallen off, despite the 'all angles' viewing - it's one of several locomotives I have 'on view' alongside where I sit in the living room, so I'm continually moving it around to get different angles on it. My loco's axle boxes seem to be quite solidly attached, but in time you never know if one or more may detach - probably not judging by the percieved impression of quality I have so far. I especially like the extra clear windows - and viewing the detailing inside. Al.

I've not noticed this with mine. Looking again at the production locomotive video I did see a wobble going around a curve once. Is this axlebox location related? Al.

I think you'll find that slot cars, like model railways have been increasing their accuracy in dimensions and realistic representation. Fly Sky have been a very decent 'average good' slot car for quite a few years now, their cars being keenly collected - despite the 917 headlamps being incorrect, for example. Scalextric have evolved with the times as well, and I would say can be compared well with the better ones. Al.

Reviews are starting to appear on YT. Looks even more impressive, and no holding back on 'prototypical load tests' either - very smooth and quiet as ever. This is one fantastic locomotive. Well done Hattons. Al.

I did also notice that parts of the metal chassis had the black paint rubbed off - fuel tank corners and off little specs on the wheels - touched up now and not noticeable, but not noticed with other manufacturers in the past. Al.

Just close the curtains, switch the lights off and put some Pink Floyd on .... !!!

Mine arrived without anything being loose - one buffer was a bit tight, but that's resolved. One comment, it was obvious the bogies had rotated a little in transit - retainers like Dapol use could have been helpful!! Al.

What I really like about mine is the fineness of the smaller detailing - wipers, sanders, grilles ... Really nice - well done Hattons. Al.

They look superb. One of my favourite locomotives in the late 70's, early 80's. Just to see 'that little loco' at the end of a huge passenger train, driver climb into the cab with 5 minutes to go, then with seconds, cooling fans fire up and off it goes ... so effortless!! Al.

Here's a close-up of my Patriot - absolutely superb!! If I remember back to my - sold - Bachmann Freightliner, the green seems a little brighter, but I'm no expert in which is correct, and certainly not bothered!! For those interested in faults and failures, one buffer was a little stiff, but a little 'light exercise' had it springing in and out without problem. Al.

Me too. It was a simple question!! I won't contribute to this thread again ... until I receive my Deltic. Al.

The 68 is no longer king of the heavyweights!! Mine weighed in at 698g, but the Hattons Patriot Class 66 just received has just registered 742g !! Wonder what the Dapol Class 59 will weigh? !! Al.

Patriot arrived at 10:50 - is absolutely perfect. It's not totally silent as Sam intimated but is VERY SMOOTH and quiet - slow is as good as ANYTHING I've seen on this forum - including that continental locomotive video. Weight - electronic kitchen scales (within 2g accuracy I reckon) = 742g. Dapol Class 68 = 698g. It's on 'display' now, alongside the 68, Royal Scot and my TTS DoG. Al.

I tried! Have to admit you're correct, of course. Pity. Al.

It appears the Hattons' alignment = Hornby's = this: http://rickinghamphotography.co.uk/gallery3/index.php/Railway/Class-66/IMG_6859 Al.

Well, I've just confirmed that my Patriot is in the RM sorting centre in Warrington .... If they make late deliveries I may receive it, but I doubt it ... tomorrow it is!! WOW!! Fantastic service Hattons - well done, in anticipation!! Al.