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I always had room inside my Sir Winston, Flying Scottie, but agree it was tight inside the (probably closer to HO/HO) Princess Royal - with the X-04's used at the time. Scalextric was around, with smaller motors, with decent power, but perhaps there just wasn't that much choice 'back then'. It's all 'consigned' now ... pity. Al.

That's a very astute consideration, but cannot change anything now! I suppose most are finescale-enough NOW that it's generally the cylinders protruding most, so using 'modern standards' it could work. Explaining the 'Continental modellers' I think you are 100% correct - 60's Tri-ang valve motion - even Hornby Dublo's - was a tad 'heavy handed'. This could probably have caught on UK-style higher platforms, generally not present on the 'Continent'. Al.

When I first found out, as an OCD teenager 45 years ago, I wasn't best pleased!! To this day I still ask myself if it was a 'valvegear consideration' how come 'Continental' HO modellers - let's call them HO/HO (it's nearly Christmas after all!!) - can purchase HO scale / HO gauge models, yet 'we' have to put up with imperfectly proportioned OO/HO .... broken record to all of us no doubt. MOVIN' ON .... !! Let's see what the Warley Surprise will be. Al.

I was just thinking that - with the Deltic, and now the 37 .... !! Al.

OO is the SCALE, NOT the GAUGE. HO is - unfortunately - our Gauge. Were we to be OO scale / OO gauge - it would not be called OO / HO. OO Gauge = P4 = 18.83mm gauge. HO Gauge = 'Normal OO/HO' whereby 'we' use HO gauge, with 16.5mm between the rails - unfortunately. An incorrect application which can never be corrected, unfortunately, unless you've the patience of a saint, and the funds of a lottery winner, and run P4. Al.

Sorry Roy, have to disagree! Did not say 'OO Gauge', just said 'OO'. This means that OO9 is 100% relevant. Judging from previous A-S comments, I really don't think it's a market they'll go for, so I DO agree it's not going to happen. Al.

OO9 is OO - just narrow gauge. Didn't say OO/HO as 'we' have them. Al.

When a small boy, I always liked 'the big nosed diesels'. When a larger small boy, I started 'getting into' model railways, and elder brother at one stage purchased a Tri-ang green 37 - which I thought was great. When an early teenager I realised these 'big nosed diesels' on local railways weren't 37's, but my real favourite, the 40 ... That's when I stopped liking the 37 as much! REALLY wanted an A-S 40!! Al.

How about narrow gauge? OO9? Al.

Great info there, thanks. Just looking at 'father and son' in the photo, it's interesting to see just how much difference there is in the loading gauges. Al.

How long to go before 'the announcement'? This weekend? !! Al.

3/4 of what I wished for - I wanted the full fat 40!! I just want to know Fran, did Bachmann upset you in a former 'life' ? !! Like the Deltic and 92, these look superb - as is to be expected. Al.

Developing my last post, Dapol were supremely impressive with the Class 68. I wonder if the Class 59 can out-haul the Hatton's Class 66 - as is apparently possible 'in real life' when comparing maximum tractive efforts and historic loads hauled - when the 2 locomotives finally appear? !!! Wonder what the weights will be. The Hatton's 66 is already looking impressive, and what we've seen so far of Dapol, they keep upping their game .... should be interesting!! Al.

I hadn't realised how 'different' the 59 is from the 66! Same generator power, more power to the traction motors, higher maximum tractive effort, etc.. ... basically by numbers alone it should list higher than the 66, shouldn't it? Don't get me wrong, I've seen a few 'sob stories' during 59 development, and how much more 'finished' the 66 is - it's domination of the British rails proves that. 4 more cylinders than the 66 as well, so if Dapol do 80% the job Hattons have of the 66 sounds, it should be individual and special in it's own way. If they can match the efforts of the 66's sounds will be something special. Al.

That is true. Can't believe the range of locomotives available 'over there', but similar-looking locomotives from different manufacturers later on in the video were actually quite competitive cf 'UK-type expectations'. Al.

Just been 'surfing' and found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz4wkFjHJPI Prices are pretty steep, but I suppose reflect size, detail ..... Al.

I'd still love to see an AS Class 40 - 70's blue would be brilliant please. 37 on steroids - just better looking. Al.

No Deltics?

Not messenger shooting ... Looking at the Dapol website, there is no 'official update' since February 2019 within the News section. I would have anticipated more ongoing and clear updates on the manufacturer's pages, and not simply from 'fellow enthusiasts' gleaning information. Al.

Is this a speculation / reverse marketing thread to benefit Hornby? 6 pages of pure speculation. It does show the enthusiasm for what many consider was a 'closet hobby' - obviously far from it. Perhaps Hornby have several 'certains' and several 'possible production' options - a thread like this could benefit them a lot - but also possibly competitors as well, if they're faster to it!! Al.

There was mention of whether or not it would be all-wheel-drive. Answered with Heljan's historic A1A powered configurations for Co-Co's anyway. There is the other consideration, if this is to be as accurate as required and expected nowadays, the 'trailing' wheels are smaller than the main drivers. Mains are 4' 0.25", and the centre 'trailing' wheels are 3' 2". Trying to synchronise that could be difficult! Al.

I thought you meant the wife!!! FANTASTIC selection of rare locomotive - brilliant 'spot' by Rails!! Al.

Well done you and Hattons. I'm curious about the 'innards' as well. Al.

Thanks for the reply and hopefully they'll look after you after full clarification of what happened. Al.

Sorry to see that. How did it happen - just normal operation? Al.