Markwj

According to a post on the rails of Sheffield site they are hopefully expecting their stock next week.

16 minutes ago, RedgateModels said:

 

I may be wrong but haven't Bachmann backed out of the sound market?

They are still releasing sound fitted models and have now decided to do both analogue and sound fitted examples in the same Livery. Although you may be referring to whether Bachmann obtain the sound files themselves which is something I don't know.

Just a question in a vain attempt to drag the thread back on track and answer my own curiosity and it may have been answered recently but where are you up to with the Deltic. Is it still on track (ho ho) to be released in November what stage of the build process are you up to?

thanks

mark

Just had a look at stock quantities at various outlets online some variants have sold out as an example hattons seem to be down to 2 variants at the special price. They seem to be flying off the shelves so I helped myself to another!

Thought would mention in case anyone is considering one.

Hi little Dan 

does this mean decoders have arrived too?

thanks 

mark

Here I am impatiently waiting for this model and you put that video up- can't take this torture anymore!

Received an email from Derails today which states delivery in June. Why does it feel like we are reaching the line then it gets pushed forward again!

 On a similar vein to mikes question above I received the green head code version today. Do the head code stickers go on the outside of the glass or do you take off the body to fit them behind the glass?

thanks

mark

You know if Dave was able to produce the 92 or any other model I am interested in and I could go down to the model shop handle it and test run it I would be happy to buy it. I may not sound like it but I have nothing against Dave personally but I no longer feel comfortable blindly giving money with nothing to show for it. We are now in a bit of a catch 22 he cannot progress without my (and others money) and I don't think I can confidently give him anymore. It is an impasse so what happens now? Time will tell?

7 minutes ago, d9002 said:

Was there also another project which was going to produce an N gauge Tamper vehicle, some years ago ?

 

Wasn't that before Dave joined Dapol I seem to remember. No idea what became of it though. 

How have the crowdfunders walked away as he has not asked for anymore money? Dave has killed it with his poor business model and lack of progress but of course it's all someone else's fault. 

Is Dave a man of his word how many promises broken and deadlines passed? 

Think you are pointing the blame at the wrong people.

2 hours ago, jjb1970 said:

I think that if you enter into a commitment to buy a crowd funded model then you should honour that commitment. One of the reasons I don't get involved is that I can't face having commitments accumulating and hanging over me. 

 

That said I would also consider that the supplier has made a commitment to supply the product within a certain delivery window and if things were running very late with no sign of progress and poor communication then I would get to a point where I would happily walk away based on the suppliers failure to uphold their side of things. Ditto for pre-order models if I got into pre-ordering models. 

I have read a few times in the other threads before the latest storm that people who signed up should honour their commitment but as you also rightly point out it works both ways as it would appear the project manager isn't managing the projects effectively. In this circumstance I can't justify throwing more money at it but I expect we the crowdfunders will be blamed if the project folds.

5 minutes ago, spikey said:

 

Hmmm ... is that better or worse than being a damp squib?

Probably worse as they struggle more and won't stay on the plate!

Yes you are correct my memory is that my order was via the dtos site. I wonder what Mick makes of it all. The plan was that they would do the apt then the remaining overhead electrics I seem to recall. I recall all the excitement and hype and now it's a damp squid!

I kind of think/ hope he is going to use the next couple of weeks to have a holiday and get his head in order and decide his best move without the usual smoke and mirrors. I hope he doesn't have to fly to china to sort out and 'find the answers' as that would suggest he has less of a grip on things than we give him credit for.

30 minutes ago, David12 said:

Spoke to staff on the Bachmann stand at the Bristol exhibition yesterday and they insisted that all variants will be available "this month". Also spoke to DC Kits about the availability of a Legomanbiffo ESU sound decoder and got a VERY interesting account as to why there has been significant further delay to the release of the models and why Bachmann aren't producing a sound decoder (despite the model being pre-fitted with a speaker) for the foreseeable future. I would print what I was told, but it could be interpreted as libellous. Suffice to say that Zimo do not have a suitable sound decoder and DC Kits will have just as soon as they can lay their hands on a Bachmann Class 90 to configure the  Loksound V5 decoder ...

You can't make a statement like that then not tell us!

He won't announce any project dead yet not until he has asked for second payments and when these don't arrive in sufficient numbers the crowdfunders who didn't pay will be taking the blame for the projects failure. This will be instead of looking at the reasons why people have lost faith in the projects in the first place.

There is a history of diverting blame elsewhere!

While the APT was not for profit that does not mean Dave didn't factor in a percentage to cover his 'salary' while making the model. Just how much he valued his time and what that figure was/ is we will never know.

If this is correct and he is right I will never buy a dj product no matter what he produces.

38 minutes ago, Boco_D1 said:

 

But he’d have to crowd fund it first.

Try this 

You can still preorder djm class 92's at hattons but I would expect it will be payment on delivery but after his first message where it appears he had a go at retailers who previously commissioned models from him I can't see any retailer giving him money in advance of goods arriving.

To be fair the other companies may have issues but choose not to air their dirty laundry in public and blame all and sundry.

6 minutes ago, blueeighties said:

"When i posted my release yesterday, little did i realisethe reaction it would cause."

 

Yeah right .

Surely it should read 'when I posted my poorly worded, inflammatory and totally bonkers diatribe yesterday, little did I realise how much I would damage my own business and the reaction it would cause'.

Just read the clarification and if he had just posted that last night without all the other guff it would have made more sense what he was getting at and not caused the uproar it did. He is just protecting his own models and mounds which is fine. For gods sake he really needs a sensible business partner!

I got my apt deposit back by raising a case with PayPal as I didn't get a refund from Dave. Unsure if this process is time limited but I got the refund back a few hours later.