CloggyDog

If you've only a small space with which to play, something like Tony Wood and Ian Manderson's lovely little fuelling point 'Villiers Street' might be worth a look. Archived thread, about http://rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2443&start=50#wrap about half-way down. a 4'6" x 2' triangle, viewed from the 2' flat end.

Can you post a link to the pic, please?? I've had a quick trawl and the only one that fits your description is of an LMS-livered one as the lead coach on a blue 37-hauled train at Queen Street. While it might be in pass use, it might equally be a positioning move - we usually see inspection saloons solo (hauled or propelled) but they were sometimes attached to pass/parcels trains for positioning (saving a path and a loco)

Moorgate never went 'solid DMU', there was a mix of loco-hauled and DMU services through to when the station was rebuilt for electrification. The last WTT with the full suburban service would have been the Summer 1976 ER (GN) WTT. I strongly suggest you join the BR Coaching Stock group on yahoo - the files section contains a wealth of info on the GN Suburban services and stock and the associated dropbox has a copy of the Carriage Working Book for the 1976 GN Suburban timetable.

The style of inspection saloon that Bachmann have done RTR was NOT for passenger use, so no, until the 101 conversion was used there was NO observation car for passenger use on the scenic lines in the Highlands in the timescale you're looking at. I think the LNER Gresley 'Beaver tail' observation saloons ended up on the Kyle route (in modified form) but were withdrawn before 1970.

One of the EMGauge70 chaps has done a very good upgrade of the Hornby VIX: www.emgauge70s.co.uk/model_omwb94.html including the Balls of Steel widening by 0.8mm to fix the underwidth of the Hornby body!

Did the 'swapsies' thread happen (had a quick look, couldn't see an obvious one...) I've currently got the GW 2800, Schools and the Bulleid Light Pacific going spare - all untouched on their plinths in the plastic 'box', but without the magazine. The Compound, T9 and GW 4500 will aso be spare in a similar fashion when they arrive. I'll be wanting Peaks, when they come out.

I'd be in for 3-4 Bauxite/Freight Brown wagon's worth, suitable for the 1970s

Spent an hour or so scanning my Hoover phots and uploading them to Flickr. https://www.flickr.com/photos/10222197@N07/sets/72157642801701264/

If the numbers come up....my thought would be to gut the innards between the cab baulkheads, seal and make the shell weathertight and cosmetically good (blue, full yellow) and convert it to a 'man room' containing the model railway, a small kitchen, bog, drinks cabinet, library, a couple of wing-back chairs and a wood burner (feeding out via the exhaust port). The back garden is easily long enough to take a Peak (dunno what the neighbours would say, mind! ) At least then it would survive, even if it never ran again (and I still require 45015 for haulage).

Indeed! I have the H0 ones, but the set-up looks very much the same. Will have a play.

The one-wagon at a time method would either mean a lot of to-ing and fro-ing from the nearest loop or main yard (Barking?) with all the disruption to services that might mean or (worse!) leaving the rest of the train fouling the main. So, I would guess that the headshunt paralleled the main back towards Upton Park station, allowing shunting of full trains, possibly with some form of loop provision? EDIT: thought I'd see if Harsig's District Line signalling diagrams cover the main and they do: http://www.harsig.org/PDF/District_East_1936.pdf (pages 6 and 7) show the connection off the main as at 1936. No headshunt. So I'd therefore assume trains would enter and shunt in from the Up main (with the loco at the London end) and split the train for shunting within the yard. The six-inch map series weren't intended to show the fine detail of railway track, only a representation. A better bet would be the larger (1:1250) scale maps (25 inch to the mile) - local libraries may hold copies of old versions - these are much more accurate with regard to track layouts and features. Btw... the yard is also on the 1957 1:25000 (2.5 inch to the mile), http://maps.nls.uk/view/95750258 so it lasted into BR days, certainly! Also found out that, barring some building work on the west side of the yard, the rest is now a park/play area.

The online rail map has a 'goods and coal yard' between Upton Park and East Ham stations: http://www.RailMapOnline.com/UKIEMap.php?lat=51.53539&lng=0.04103 Interestingly, it's not on the 1895 25inch map of the area http://maps.nls.uk/view/101201742 but is on the 1920 six-inch http://maps.nls.uk/view/102345870 and 1946 one-inch maps: http://maps.nls.uk/view/74466960 Somwhere at home I have the last (1970s) one-inch. If I can dig it out, I'll check if the yard is still on there.

Oh, very useful. I have a pack of the same Auhagen ones and was wondering how to make them operational. Cheers chap!

Dunno if anyone's looked at the GBL site recently, but the released models are available at 20 euros a pop, along with assorted other magazine-related stuff (N Gauge locos, planes, tanks, etc) http://www.amercom-hobby.com/index.php?route=common/home

MMmmm, very nice. I'd certainly be interested in a kit for the 2/680 *he hinted*

Green??? GREEN?? On a refurb? Shurely Shome Mishtake?? Blue/Grey all the way, baby! Seriously, damn nice job there, Chris. I commuted on the 307s from Brentwood to the Street from the mid-80s until they were withdrawn (the Brentwood/Harold Wood then fast to the Street was always a pair of 307s) Get a window seat so as to be in a position of strength to get the door open half-way down the platform and start running about a coach length from the stops! Unless it was mid-winter, in which case the down-rated non-doored bay of seating avoided the draughts. I have vaguer memories of them pre-refurbishment, when they were just one of the seemingly generic non-sliding-doored blue compartment units!

The 73TS piece was in the October 1978 Railway Modeller, according to this rather useful page of LT modelling references

There was an article in modelling 73TS in the Railway Modeller many moons agi which included a decent 4mm drawing. I *think* it proposed cutting the carbody as a flat (in plasticard or thin metal), then forming around a suitable set of bulkheads to get the shape. Won't be able to refernce my library until Monday, but if no one beats me to it, I'll post the issue details then. And you're aware, of course, of the signalling plans on Harsig's useful site: http://www.harsig.org/

My flickr album of Gronks/Jockos/350s, all 80s and early 90s https://www.flickr.com/photos/10222197@N07/sets/72157642392104105/

Spent the morning scanning most of my Class 20 photos - sadly some show the ravages of time and 'chuck it in a box' storage and the notebooks with dates and locations are long-gone. I'm pretty certain all date between 1984 and 1994 and I've added locations where I'm certain. There may be a few more to come, need to check a couple of HDDs to see if any previously scanned ones from when I had a fotopic are still around Anyways... enjoy! https://www.flickr.com/photos/10222197@N07/sets/72157642793064594/

Scotsman on the way... Cool. Scalpels, saws, etc all ready and waiting. I'll be doing what the NRM should have done with the real thing by recreating a Thompson A1/1 *evil cackle*

Probably the issue is more around obsolete technology, i.e. where's the value/point in getting your apprentices using/wasting their valuable time on fixing something that's 50 years out of date and pretty irrelevant to what you're training them to work on for you. Other than possibly as a PR exercise

Wasn't there also a single-cab Co-Co with a deltic lump amidships... looking a lot like a stretched 20?? I did have a play with some surplus Lima 20 shells a few years back... the double-cabbed version, a cabless booster and a stretched EE single-cabbed Type 4. Might still have those knocking around the junk box...

If it were the only DBT they built, I'd be inclined to agree... but... Standard's '029 and Marcroft's '030 were both part-lots (3444 and 3445 respectively), the remainder of which were long body, LMS-bogies ones: Lot 3444, Standard Wagon Co 1962 B964020-28, Long w/flat sides/LMS Lot 3444 Standard Wagon Co 1962 B964029 Short w/flat sides LMS Lot 3445 Marcroft 1962 B964030 Short w/flat sides/LMS (increased slope to end panels) Lot 3445 Marcroft 1962 B964031-034 Long w/flat sides/LMS So why were those 2 (B964029/30) built with the shorter 1/557 body, non-standard in it's flat sides and by 2 builders, both concurrently building others to a consistent design (1/556) ?? I suppose one logical possibility is that the donor coaches had either non-standard underframes (different diagram?) or were otherwise different (accident damage?)

Clive - http://www.flickr.com/groups/tinsleyyard/ might be of use. Gareth Bayer had a layout proposal for part of TI under the Scalefour Society's 1883 Challenge a few years back - sadly the link no longer works and I don't seem to have saved an electronic copy. I might have hard copy in my library, will have an investigate. Feb 2004 Rail Express has a modelling piece - Class 13s and a fold-out trackplan. - Again, I probably have this in the library somewhere.