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I assume that this is atomised water rather than actual steam? Does anyone know how the " steam" generator actually works, ie what principal it uses to generate "steam"

You could use debonder. Then again the whole thing might fall apart...

I agree, those lights look ridiculous. I'm wondering how the steam unit works? I assume the principle is similar to an ultrasonic humidifier? I saw someone with his nose almost touching the chimney - I hope he hasn't got a dose of Legionaires disease today...

I seem to recall a comment that the TT 08 was designed in China. That would explain a few things. The overstock thing put me in mind of Hattons. No doubt the situation is rather different and I do hope that Hornby's position is more "sustainable".

"Inflammable" is not a word you can use in 2024. It became "flammable" due to too many people not understanding what it actually meant. It might have been prototypical then but now it's use is potentially inflammatory...

As someone with an interest in TT120 I'm rather concerned that the loss making 00 models might damage my preferred scale...

I think that Piko is more likely than Tillig. Tillig don't seem to have much penetration into the UK market (might be something to do with their current distributor). There are a few Piko TT stockists now though.

Having said what I've just said, I'd consider buying a Tillig loco providing it wasn't too expensive...

Sorry, I still don't understand. Unless Tillig are doing something radically different to everyone else then, for most models, a newly tooled chassis will be required, unless they're going to produce some sort of caricature model. Of course they could use some existing components but some of these, eg motors, are probably bought in anyway so probably not a massive saving (pennies / cents) I'm fully aware that Heljan don't make models in TT but it's not really relevant, is it? I believe that Tillig still manufacture in Europe so probably not competitive with China (yet). Of course they might do but then again they might not. Going back to Heljan again, having tried to fix a few of their models, i do find it surprising how many non standardised components they seem to use (no, i wont be keen to take one apart in future). Perhaps Tillig are different?

Well, it's not very accurate, is it?! Looking forward to the reviews...

The TT120 loco has approx twice the volume of the N version. Therefore, all things being equal, it COULD have twice the mass, which, is what we'd really want. You've just made this very confusing by adding all manner of other variables into the discussion. The Hornby TT120 08 is perhaps overpriced for what it is (the Farish one isn't cheap either) but it COULD be improved significantly although, obviously, Hornby are unlikely to re-engineer it any time soon. I'd prefer to look to the future a bit and hope that Hornby improve, which I think they will (the alternative for me will be to go for German outline). Personally I've now had enough of the BS reviews by Sam, Son of Sam, etc.

I think you'll find that's how gears work. Not something exclusive to Tillig. Heljan do it. I assume others also. Take some module 0.3 gears (or whatever) and move them about a bit.

I'm regretting not ordering 100s. Would have been a very good investment...

I agree with the bit about speculation. I'm waiting for the Duchess not all this "modern image" (how dated that sounds now) stuff.

I can't remember the exact price but it was at that sort of level - cheaper than the 08 and a lot cheaper than the 50. Of course, 1 year later, this is all ancient history and the Hornby prices are much higher. I can't see how it would have helped Heljan if the competition was significantly cheaper? As far as quality was concerned, that's not something you really going to know about until you've actually received the thing. The 66, at the time, was probably suspiciously cheap, though.