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An example of something potentially useful is the Arnold ferry vans.

I wondered the same. It's strange that it's not a case of shrinking OO down to TT when it appears that that is what they've done (sort of). Is it that costly to scan a wagon? Perhaps it is but it would be nice to see some sort of coherent plan. Also would be nice to see more rtr wagons from Peco or someone else.

No doubt the risk is small. It's still a risk though. I just hope that Hornby have covered themselves.

Thanks, that would be my assumption too, although I'd call it a " humidifier". Assuming that is the case, I wonder what steps Hornby advise to reduce the risk of users contracting Legionnaires disease?

I assume that this is atomised water rather than actual steam? Does anyone know how the " steam" generator actually works, ie what principal it uses to generate "steam"

You could use debonder. Then again the whole thing might fall apart...

I agree, those lights look ridiculous. I'm wondering how the steam unit works? I assume the principle is similar to an ultrasonic humidifier? I saw someone with his nose almost touching the chimney - I hope he hasn't got a dose of Legionaires disease today...

I seem to recall a comment that the TT 08 was designed in China. That would explain a few things. The overstock thing put me in mind of Hattons. No doubt the situation is rather different and I do hope that Hornby's position is more "sustainable".

"Inflammable" is not a word you can use in 2024. It became "flammable" due to too many people not understanding what it actually meant. It might have been prototypical then but now it's use is potentially inflammatory...

As someone with an interest in TT120 I'm rather concerned that the loss making 00 models might damage my preferred scale...

I think that Piko is more likely than Tillig. Tillig don't seem to have much penetration into the UK market (might be something to do with their current distributor). There are a few Piko TT stockists now though.

Having said what I've just said, I'd consider buying a Tillig loco providing it wasn't too expensive...

Sorry, I still don't understand. Unless Tillig are doing something radically different to everyone else then, for most models, a newly tooled chassis will be required, unless they're going to produce some sort of caricature model. Of course they could use some existing components but some of these, eg motors, are probably bought in anyway so probably not a massive saving (pennies / cents) I'm fully aware that Heljan don't make models in TT but it's not really relevant, is it? I believe that Tillig still manufacture in Europe so probably not competitive with China (yet). Of course they might do but then again they might not. Going back to Heljan again, having tried to fix a few of their models, i do find it surprising how many non standardised components they seem to use (no, i wont be keen to take one apart in future). Perhaps Tillig are different?

Well, it's not very accurate, is it?! Looking forward to the reviews...

The TT120 loco has approx twice the volume of the N version. Therefore, all things being equal, it COULD have twice the mass, which, is what we'd really want. You've just made this very confusing by adding all manner of other variables into the discussion. The Hornby TT120 08 is perhaps overpriced for what it is (the Farish one isn't cheap either) but it COULD be improved significantly although, obviously, Hornby are unlikely to re-engineer it any time soon. I'd prefer to look to the future a bit and hope that Hornby improve, which I think they will (the alternative for me will be to go for German outline). Personally I've now had enough of the BS reviews by Sam, Son of Sam, etc.

I think you'll find that's how gears work. Not something exclusive to Tillig. Heljan do it. I assume others also. Take some module 0.3 gears (or whatever) and move them about a bit.

I'm regretting not ordering 100s. Would have been a very good investment...

I agree with the bit about speculation. I'm waiting for the Duchess not all this "modern image" (how dated that sounds now) stuff.

I can't remember the exact price but it was at that sort of level - cheaper than the 08 and a lot cheaper than the 50. Of course, 1 year later, this is all ancient history and the Hornby prices are much higher. I can't see how it would have helped Heljan if the competition was significantly cheaper? As far as quality was concerned, that's not something you really going to know about until you've actually received the thing. The 66, at the time, was probably suspiciously cheap, though.

I had an order for the Heljan 31 with Hattons. Then the price increased by at least 10% to about £180, which, in my eyes, increased the price from expensive to very expensive. Then Hornby came along, initially with prices below £100 for the 66 (with discounts). That's probably why Heljan decided to throw in the towel because they couldn't compete on price? Of course Hornby TT prices have increased a lot since the launch.

No, it didn't last long. You shortened the article a bit too much - it was about something called Doddle. In Milton Keynes the retail unit seemed to come and go in a flash (so say a year). You could call it a gimmick but, in this case, it wasn't Hornby's gimmick so, presumably, they didn't lose (much) money...

All the various factions seem to be very sensitive! Personally I'm rather agnostic about Hornby and find some of what they do rather difficult to understand but, if you want Tt120, currently there is no other choice. Of course, you're right about buying the same thing all over again - if youre interested in a certain era and region then its almost inevitable - but it's going to take a long time to get there if only Hornby are making the models.

The over bridge, tunnel mouths and fences on the Peco layout are N scale (I asked). Apparently they will be bringing out GWR fencing at some point.

I agree. This seems to be intelligent design by Peco. Without cheap labour you need to make assembly simpler.

Hopefully it'll be fixed on the production models and everyone will be happy. OK perhaps not the latter...