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For me, I would look mainly at the electrics on the model. 21 pin decoder fitting then as mentioned head/tail lights switchable, an operating pantograph in line with Bachmann 90’s or Accurascale 89/92’s and Dapol’s 88’s would bring the model up. As for pre fitted speakers, this is nice saves installing my own but only good if the speaker fitted is of a good quality (like Cavalex or Accurascale models), otherwise you then have to remove what’s been put in (Bachmann models).

I do believe that DCC functionality is the main thing that lets Hornby down, models usually look like the real thing but can’t be operated like the real thing.

Anyway, back to sheds!

DRS compass on a 66/3 or later /4 would be on my list.

I quite like some 66/6’s in FL livery or Bardon Blue.

then there is always Fastline, Malcolm or Stobart liveries too

6 hours ago, adb968008 said:

 

Personally i’d like to see the preserved Riveria blue greys, so i’m in the same boat, but the others are bargains galore.

 

I agree, I’d like those and the Anglia ones or even a North Britton blue one! Even the old Arriva trains wales from the original WAG that would give people a reason to buy that Arriva wales 57/3 too! 
 

I’m hoping they will do riviera Mk.1’s too but that’s for another thread!

2 hours ago, RBE said:

It's not prototypical though is it? As the driver has to manually turn the master switch off for it to go out. It's not a case of if the loco stops it goes out. 

Maybe having a function (placed high up F15+) that you can turn on and latches as to do it every time so that moments after the train stops the headlight turns off, maybe a delay of around 2 seconds for realism? This way people can access it if they want?
 

And if they (people) stop momentarily by accident or for shunting realism then it doesn’t go off but if they then do sit static for longer it would show the driver changing the direction selector to neutral/engine only.

Was the Jarvis one repainted into something else by 2004? Or did they last further into time in this Jarvis livery, not bothered if it was a different running number?

I find it. A shame they haven’t done a WCRC FO just for them to come out at a similar time to the other WCRC Mk.1’s. In future I’d quite like some riviera ones in chocolate and custard, maybe with and without centre door? Depends on what the tooling is capable of…

3 minutes ago, 37081LochLong said:

Please no more 016 with wipacs, I want it when in BR ownership in blue or green without those damn lights

I think in time we may get that one, mainly only because it makes use of the tooling. But for now I think offering 16 in a completely different guise makes much more sense to do.

I’m hoping for a D9000 to be released as it was in the 2012. With headlight, silver fuel tanks and domino lights. That would be the one for me. Other than that I’m hoping they do a model of D9019 as it was on the mainline too and it would be interesting to see D9016 in 2 tone green with wipacs 👀

2 hours ago, Phil Mc said:

Another livery variation to do......

 

 

 

Cheers,

Phil.

Preferred it in the livery it was in before with the small logos, shame it’s only a Hornby model…

20 minutes ago, Covkid said:

 

But would enough folk buy full rakes to justify them ? Personally doubt it, but welcome other thoughts.

Would doing them as 3 coach packs work allowing some to get some bits, like a 2x TSO and a BSO for a ‘short set’ then additional ones like 3xFO’s and a TSO, RFO, FO work for those that want to build the train?

Have we had any further update on this one? Will it now be a plux22 chip? It’s been a very long time coming…

As much as I think that the Mk2.f from Bachmann is a good example of the coach, the lack of variety of releases makes me think it’s could be done by someone else. I think every other Mk.2 type can be done because the gulf in quality and detail is massive compared to these new ones.
 

I agree I think that modern image charter rakes have been truly forgotten by most barring Bachmann’s WCRC stuff and now Accurascale’s stuff. considering these coaches can be seen everywhere on the network they cover all regions.

In all honesty I think Bachmann have massively under utilised this new tooling. So far they produced models like 375 and 790 but these are no good as the common machines can be renumbered and people would buy 2/3 not just one and that’s if they like that one. They really need to use the tooling create the real odd balls like 601/901 like the flush fronted DRS ones not the celebrities. But they need to deliver the odd standard one too that people can do some (dare I say it) modelling and renumbering too. They will find boxes shift then a mix is what you want but I just don’t see them doing this at the moment.

54 minutes ago, 125_driver said:

Sorry to hijack the thread, but quick question. I'm thinking of buying some Bachmann 47s (the newer model), but I'm unfamiliar with plux22 decoder. Is it possible to fit a different decoder to a dcc ready example, say a standard 21 pin decoder? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I've never come across a plux22, and have no desire to fit one for features such as working fan that doesn't bother me. Thanks. 

You won’t be able to put a 21 pin decoder in as it will need a 22 pin connection. However it’s plug and play just like the 21 pin ones, open the model up plug in the Plux22 chip (you will need to buy a plux22 chip) and then it should have programming instructions with it. If you’re looking for more customisation by using a lokprogrammer or individually altering the CV’s on a programming track.

Hope this helps!

I hate to be one of those people but,

is there any update to which liveries will be done? Or when you might be announcing which ones your doing? Still hoping for a northern one!

2 hours ago, nickb4141 said:

Hi Fran,

 

That’s a shame that you’ve decided against the 185 - they seem to be cropping up in quite a number of posts on here. If Hornby can justify tooling the Flirt DMU’s, which are restricted to a much smaller geographical area and only have one livery, the 185 would seem commercially sound. Apparently the Flirt DMU’s have been selling well on pre orders, according to my local model shop, so maybe there are a few more multiple unit fans out there, than we are given credit for. 

The thing is now that if you want to model anything past 2000ish then units are a staple of your layout, and as time has gone on 2010 onwards locos only exist on IC workings or freight. Units sell because they are required for the layout to work as an accurate representation, they sell not particularly because everyone likes them but because you have to have them.

On 24/03/2024 at 14:29, Fredo said:

Hi, I am looking forward to getting a model of 61306 as preserved. Is the loco fitted with air brakes and modern equipment on its tender?

The actual loco is fitted with Air brakes and a (Westinghouse?) air pump as such, will be fully fitted with GSMR, AWS and modern equipment. Whether the model is correct is another question…

On 23/03/2024 at 08:47, Rhydgaled said:

Err; Britain has quite a few 125mph capable locos actually (although none which are available for starting a new long-term operation) and only one of them (89001) is Co-Co. The 91s and 43s are of course Bo-Bo machines.

I’m sorry, My point was that there isn’t a 125 capable fleet being developed or available right now for an operator. I’m well aware of those you’ve quoted but good luck with keeping any of those options in service for more than 15 years.

On 23/03/2024 at 09:19, ruggedpeak said:

Class 67's are 125 mph capable are they not, plenty of them around for use?

Capable yes, allowed no. They are currently a max speed 110mph due to track wear issues AFAIK.

If I may, do we know when another batch of Loksound V5’s are due for the 37’s? Ideally I’m after one Un-refurbished and a couple of refurb ones, I’d assume they would be due when the next batch comes into stock but I never assume

18 minutes ago, 7013 said:

So, I have paid for my 66 ‘Evening Star’ when can I expect it to be despatched? I paid for my CL50 a year ago and am still waiting, although I do appreciate there were a few issues to sort out with that. But I expect the 66’s to arrive sooner rather than later as they are in essence a modification of the Hatton’s model.

To save those lovely people at AS, once again the project page is updated regularly whenever each project gets an update, as per the last update the AS 66 are “In Transit” which leaves you at the liberty of the Houthi rebels and if the ship goes the long way or the short way round. And I’ve heard the rebels love an Accurascale model more than us!

https://www.accurascale.com/pages/projects

17 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

Hmmmm ? .............................. not the largest of classes nor operating over a particularly enormous area - and not having a huge range of livery options, I have my doubts.

I’d argue they have operated over an incredibly large area! WCML Glasgow to Manchester, ECML Newcastle to Leeds, Cleethorpes to Liverpool via Sheffield, the transpennine route itself, Blackpool, Barrow-in-Furness.
 

If you were in the north, you’d be hard pressed to be at a location that hasn’t been visited by them! They’ve had 3 major liveries with multiple one off’s and even then there’s been various branding removed and applied to vary those major liveries.

I think this is a case of North vs. South, SWT 450’s have been done and I’d argue they go over a smaller geographical area, albeit a more concentrated number of them. But they have also carried less liveries and variations.

3 hours ago, The Black Hat said:

I think you could be right. Accurascale would be a good choice to undercut Bachmann again with the release of something like the Turbostar - which Electrostar option... 

Other DMUs to consider I think would be:
 

Voyager/Meridian 220/221/222
Class 185 - with Desiro options
All singing all dancing IEP - 800/801/802... etc
110
HST... 

I was only thinking that yesterday, I don’t think they would be scared to replace something already available and a 185 would be an instant win, with the other units in the desiro family available after with smart tooling such as 360, 350, 450, 444 then maybe even the 380?

The voyager unit is a low hanging fruit again along with the 170, which again could lead to 168, 171 and 172 toolings and then it’s similar body to the electro stars I believe if the tooling was designed well! 
 

Being selfish I’d like an all singing all dancing 802, even though mine failed on me today! The Hornby one is okay but it’s definitely a toy rather than a model…

7 minutes ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

Well London bound tomorrow,whos off to Alley Pally,only a six o clock start..................

Sunday for me, I’m just about to start my Night Shift.

I mean the 57/3’s aren’t accurate really as 57312 in NR yellow had a Delner (or another style) coupler but on the model it’s not there, seems a bit daft to me…

2 minutes ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

Well i have a freemium so dont pay and it works fine as its in there free to watch stuff?  dont sign up to join them,just the free account.............

I have done this, I’m logged in and click to watch the video and it’s loops me into a login page 🤷‍♂️