G-BOAF

Yes this in a big way. it is a wonderful catalogue of past models, with photos of the actual thing not CGI or pre-production samples.

very shocked to hear this news. A huge presence in the industry, both retail and innovating manufacture. I hope the Hattons Originals tools and programms find new homes, as to the knowledgeable staff and innovative leadership.

Bumping my own query re drive hold enabling Class 47 is a mighty fine model. The sound is wonderful, although control is not easy on DC (will be playing on DCC over the weekend) I'm now on my second as my first had some awful smudges on the white lower intercity panel, and some 'fuzzy' printing between the upper white band and the intercity grey. Second model much better (not quite perfect, but I will live with it). Its a shame as between this and the Swallow Mk2Fs, Bachmann is really struggling with the IC livery. She will stay as 828 for the time being, though possibly gain later OHL flashes, and I will live with the 'incorrect' (for present day) marker lights at one end. Eventually I suspect she with either gain a 'present day' body, or become 47834 Fire Fly (if 47798 is not released in the next few years in any of its incarnations).

Smokebox top lamp iron is in lower position (they have got it right on this Dublo release, but got it wrong on the GG and GB releases). So its 'as preserved'. I think the handrails were originally burnished stainless steel in 1937- the NRM explained that this could not be restored as it would have involved new handrail brackets, which in turn would have involved removal of the casing and disturbing/removing the asbestos boiler lagging (which was sealed at the start of the restoration, rather than removed). So they were pained blue, as Hornby have modelled them. They do look very nice, but I just don't like the cab front window (too small, because diecast cab roof is thick), and the mould lines along the 2.30 positions on the boiler sides. So unnecessary - there SHOULD be a parting line in the middle of the top where the casing joins, and in the case of the A4, there are no 'inserts' required at the top of the boiler that should need a vertical release part of the tool. then again, just shows how good the original 2004 release was, that 19 years later, no one has actually bettered it, even with a completely new body tool (in this case), nor the rather weird proportions on the Dapol model

I alao bought r2136, in part because it was marketed as a 'one off' of CofA by Hornby due to copyrighting over the coat of arms. I was a bit miffed when Hornby produced the loco again... and again and again in different forms.

Yes Hornby we know have repeated things with significant differences in different production batches with the same catalogue number. Exeter was one (indeed this was because Sanda Kan produced too few at the end of their exitance and work for Hornby) Clan Line (R2169) was produced in a second batch (quickly following the first) with correct smokebox door, and Mallard (R2339) was produced as part of the original run in c.2004 and a later batch with an incorrect bell whistle (and I think loco-tender wiring with tender chip), as well as degraded tooling of the cab roof (a real bugbear of mine as it means that blue-black interface on the cab roof is not straight) But Bachman are normally quite 'tight' about different batches having different catalogue numbers, even if (as with my Evening Star case above) the model is the same. It is interesting to hear of other case of the inverse by Bachmann, namely different batches of the same item. Weird that they would need full deco samples for a simple number change (given positioning etc would remain the same). Wouldn't there be as much chance of errors creeping in when re-setting up old printing than new ones? I now annoyingly find that this later Mk1 also suffers from the 'cut end' bogie, whereby the front cross member of the bogie has been removed in the factory, and the bogie is not guiding the coupling in curves; I wondered why the tension lock was pulling to the side on curves as the first vehicle behind the engine. Thankfully enough BR1 bogie frames in stock (from Commonwealth conversions) to rectify.

I came across the 'weirdest' Bachmann thing today. I finally inspected a relatively recently purchased but never opened Mk1 TSO 39-052E Crimson and Cream. This was a purchase I didn't 'want' to make as I already had this coach and don't like to have duplicate numbers on the layout (although will take the plunge at renumbering). The shortage of these coaches, coupled with some poor QC on another batch I tried to purchase, lead me back to this duplication. However when I compared it to my older purchase of the 'same' coach it was clearly from a different batch. My second model had the revised (smooth) roof without ribs, whereas the first had ribs. The running numbers were, as expected, the same. The manufacturing date stamped on the box flaps however confirmed that these models were made FIVE YEARS apart (2010 and 2015). I know Bachmann sometimes re-run models that are nominally similar, and the catalogue numbers are different, even though the model should be the same (e.g. Evening Star as originally released c.2006, (32-850), and re-released around 2012 (32-850A). There were some subtle differences (varnish and green tone, and some deterioration in the decoration and positioning), but at least they were not pretending to be the same item. What is weird in my Mk1 case is that you have nominally exactly the same model, but with different generation of parts. I would have thought at least Bachmann would have changed the running number and included a new prefix in such a case, but they did not. I've never come across such repeated models before from Bachmann. Are there any other similar examples people have? Might it have been a case of only part of the batch being produced in 2010, and so it was 'completed' five years later?!

Just discovered this thread. As a fellow preservation modeller, I absolutely love it. Incredible representation of a modern day preservation scene with wonderful attention to detail in capturing the character of the real site. @chriscleveland what overlay did you use on Pullman 351? What livery was it initially?

Maybe it is true scale, I didn't want to make absolute statements on something I wasn't sure of. I was very impressed with the look of with mine on a display shelf (where it was at the closest setting). Since then it has had a chassis swap with a later production run (DCC sound fitted) with a screw-fitted drawbar, so is not as easy to adjust from running to display.

Thats whats been done on the metal running plate a3 releases which include kinematic loco tender couplings and slightly improved wheels. The core tooling and dimensions are little changed The chinney could be tweaked; the cap is a seperste part. Im surprised there isnt a resin or white metal sfter market replacement available after all these years at least

It is telling that the much praised new H 9f has so much in common with the Brit in terms of design. Proof that ver little needs to change/can be imrproved except for chimney, deflectors and maybe bogie wheels as mentioned above. The tender to loco connection is prototypically positioned througj the dragbox and at its closest is almosy scale. One of the best models Hornby have made and not much they or others could add to it

Very nice they are to. Good colour match with Modelzone and Bachmann POS releases, although weirdly the lower lining is at a different height, which is a shame. (If you are making a fictitious livery, you have the latitude to match it up to previous prototypical iterations!). The b5 bogies are a step up from the previous B4 moulds, is is the underframe and eth cable detail. I both wish Bachmann would refresh its entire Mk1 range to this standard, and also know I could not afford to replace my extensive collection if they did! I have fitted B4 bogies to my other POS (and intend to on the one pictured) but now the ride height against the POT is just awful, so I will have to modify the bogie top to lower it as with a complete rake it is just going to look ridiculous (about 1.5mm difference, entirely due to the old B4 bogie design from Bachmann). While I'm about it I might modify the bottom 'bar' on the B4 to get it closer to a B5.... but that's getting OT

OK, so in terms of the model it will definitely be a case of what to stick at the other end (with a similar gear ratio). If only Hornby were to release another 'dummy' Class 43 'DVT' with their revised tooling

Anyone got their hands on the TPO vehicles yet? I ordered a couple of weeks ago but not had a deliver yet.

Is there provision for a front coupling if one wants to operate a train from the rear cab?

Lovely announcement. Can one hope for a preserved condition GWR one, and/or a Preserved LT loco (hint L95 has run in both LT and Preservation in almost the same condition, aside from Vacuum pipes)? And while you are getting licenses for the LT livery, you might as well get the various Class 66 lined up as well! I feel a little sorry for Bachmann here, given that the Pannier has been such a staple for them since Mainline days, however they had plenty of chances to retool it, but instead went with more obscure variants. You snooze you loose!

I mean logically it will be southern or midland or BR Standard. For which i would say MN or 8f, or possibly a std 5mt But at the same time a 57xx would be lifting an very aged model (body at least) that has wide appeal and numerous prototypes. My money wouod be on one of these four

which retailer? that is VERY low.

O/t but what is the dimensional error with the deltic? Been following that thread closely and not seen anything mentioned! As regards the V2 will be interesting to see what improvements in a futire batch and if any retrofit parts are made available

finally bitten the bullet and ordered one of these models sound fitted Can someone advise how Loksound v5 Drive Hold function works on this decoder (or has it been replaced by another function?)

Do FNRM members qualify for a discount in purchases at Locomotion in the same way as at York? I've never had a proper answer to this (and if no, why not!?)

It really looks a bit 'off'. I was expecting given the almost 20 years that have elapsed between the fundamental design of the Hornby model and this HO equivalent, that the later model would have finesse of the 2020s, but between the shape of the cab (too stubby?), chimney (too tall?), the pivoting pony, and infill at the bottom of the boiler, the Hornby model is still the better one running on 16mm track! the HO valve gear is nice though, especially the return crank fixing

I mean anyone wanting two tenders, presumably is modelling the preservation era (given the loco never ran with the Sturrock tender GNR service), and will have no need or justification for two locos. Only one exists. Especially two with the same number. If they produce the tender on its own, I will buy it(nice to have, look great on display, and offer variation in running). If they don't I'm not buying a whole second loco! I can't imagine I'm on my own here

Any chance of a small run of just the Sturrock tender for those of us who already invested in the initial Locomotion model but would like a mix-and-match of eras and display?

Bit difficult to do that and still reliably stock Bachmann (who insist on physical presence) and I think Hornby tier system also favours physical shops