rob D2

I think cavalex are to be commended for name plate guides, I’ve not seen that before .

JN, I use tamiya low tack masking tape as a guide on cab sides . I then use 2 tiny dots of “ glue and glaze “ ( cos it dries clear if I really cock it up ) and place said item on top. Can also use tiny drops of varnish - always applied minutely with end of a cocktail stick 

2 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

If you look up the definition of modelling. one answer is "the activity of making three-dimensional models". So the purchase and use of RTR/RTP items isn't "modelling".

 

The creation of a layout or diorama. which may enable those purchases to be used however, could be seen as modelling. It depends on how much effort you want to put in. 

We’ve had this debate before , many times , and suffice I’m not going to start it again .

With a large number of members touchy about “ labelling “ , “ pigeon holing”, it’s not where I want to go at all…because it requires such , ill self label myself.

What it comes down to is …time…money….both are in short supply. So in modelling you choose what appeals to you and what you can afford.

I build wagon kits - I don’t enjoy it much. I find it fiddly , frustrating and annoying. The only reason I’ve done it in the past is the wagons I wanted weren’t available RTR, then they were and I stopped ….Am I a “ real “ modeller then ?
 

I change decals, I have done resprays , I change numbers - this is the part of the hobby that appeals to me …am I a real modeller ?who cares…

I build layouts , mainly small. I get diminishing returns TBH. I only build them to have a realistic back drop for the fantastic RTR we have. I don’t have time to build everything …

So I label myself as a collector , who likes to customise models , and run them in a semi realistic environment .

At the end of the day if I enjoy it that’s enough , that’s the whole point of it and the only point .

Fleet looks good , although the grey and yellow wagons would not run together as a clam is vacuum braked and a Rudd is air braked 

34 minutes ago, Not Jeremy said:

So make a kit, or scratchbuild, this obsessing over what is and isn't produced by XYZ manufacturer is, to my mind at least, desperately uninteresting and even depressing.

 

Are we railway modelling or railway model purchasing?

 

I know which I prefer....

That debate has been done to death . And as we’ve just had a debate on “ labelling “ I’m happy to say that both RTR and kit building is modelling in my eyes .

I tried to get the only train kit of a 12T crane before the hattons thing but it was sold out - am now on waiting list fir next batch 

The Hattons 12 T crane was an example.

I thought they’d be loads of interest - I didn’t realise you had to register interest - I didn’t , it wasn’t made .

33 minutes ago, James Makin said:

 

Haha, very true! In fairness to them this piece would've been around 1997-98 so maybe plans changed, or it was just complete misinformation from the start..! 🤣 I was in my early teens reading the article so my thoughts turned to how many locos I could get with my paper round at the time - could've had a little fleet going in the back garden!

 

Going back to Cavalex Class 60s - may I humbly request Mainline Grey for consideration?

 

As a shock exposé(!) I found that Fox Transfers' Class 60 'Mainline' logos are scaled wrongly for 4mm and so it's currently impossible to produce an accurate Mainline grey class 60 without otherwise resorting to the old Hornby 'Canisp' release (which even then has logos printed in slightly the wrong place on one side) - please be our salvation chaps!

 

Cheers

James

Early teens ? Do your time lad ..😁

Thats a good call - I’d expect transrail, mainline and loadhaul all to appear .

There wasn’t that many celeb liveries on the 60s back then so I’m also expecting the British steel duo , and the corus duo ( twin pack , model ship exclusive , remortgage my house job ).

The dilemma I have these days is what to replace from my fleet - because I can’t afford to replace the lot 

On 24/02/2024 at 19:47, 90136 said:

Knew I’d seen it somewhere. Glad to see there is a following. Always liked the 58’s, spent many a shift in them. 

Interesting .

The Heljan / EFE 58 hung around on the shelves a lot - might be it’s a dated model  or maybe there isn’t enough following for a new super detailed one ? And I suppose cos they disappeared so long back there’s no current market .

Personally though , I wouldn’t mind a couple . 58020 and 040 in faded mainline were the 2 I remember seeing .

Anyway back to the 60 . IKB looks great - it was only a matter of time before someone did it ! Gotta watch all these pre orders though , I’m not Elon musk !

Having owned several of the original 47s, I’ve been put off the brand indefinitely , sadly .

3 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

It didn't really; most were the last to sell and most discounted. A bit of a sad reflection of the how little some were prepared to do even 12-15 years ago.

Ah ok . I think I’m misquoting someone who said they flew off the shelves - not sure if that was keen modeller or a retailer .

Edit - I’m sure a retailer said they sold stacks which surprised me - might have been our friends at trains4U IIRC 

4 minutes ago, Paul tpxguard said:

How about a series 1 series 2 and a 3 in triple grey un numbered and no sector 

same with the large logo blue and the  grey then we can just decal up as many as we can each afford lol

It’s been suggested before with other model manufacturers but blue box wouldn’t do it because in their view it doesn’t sell - there’s a large % of modellers unable or unwilling to add decals … worked for Heljan though with their unnumbered 47s

12 hours ago, russ p said:

 

No, I mean liveries correct for a 56. Those things with no horn grilles and massive extra side grilles look awful 

I'll be honest I hate the things

I’m not really into the current scene but  I think the maroon is the best of these dog dinners … but TBH , modern GBRF looks best on these with big numbers as they bear a passing resemblance to the 70 s but are a modern concept .

i can’t help that think conspiracy wise GB are on 10% of every wacky livery variation Bachmann sell 

43 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

 

I'm with @2ManySpams on this. 

 

I exhibit my layouts and the approach I take is to weather the whole layout using the same pallette, locos, stock, buildings, trackwork, everything. 

 

In fact, thinking back to the exhibitions I attended last year, as an example, I can say that what your describing here, in respect of buildings and ballast,  is the exception, rather than the rule. 

 

My current layouts and their buildings etc...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rob

 

 

I admire anyone with the patience to create such a vista ! Well done 

Is their not like an NMRA standard set of eras ?

2 hours ago, Ian Fisher said:

Means B*gger all 

 

I dont get why people are so keen on labelling others 

As someone else pointed out , it’s an easy reference to when people were born.

It’s not some “judgement “ on the relative merits of each group, so you can park your outrage .

30 minutes ago, MattR said:

At least here in the U.S.:

 

Silent Generation: born 1928-1945 (ages 96-79)

Baby Boomers: born 1946-1964 (ages 78-60)

Gen(eration) X: born 1965-1980 (ages 59-43)

Millennials: born 1981-1996 (ages 42-28)

Gen(eration) Z: born 1997-2012 (ages 27-12)

Gen(eration) Alpha: born 2013-present (age 11 and under)

 

 

That’s it ….I’m an X …my kids are Z….im guessing any grandkids are to be B ;)

My kids sometimes call me boomer just to wind me up. Even they know I’m not that old 

7 minutes ago, newbryford said:

Pics of a maroon 69009 starting to appear...

 

Arlington Fleet Services page

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=900991952028142&set=pcb.900992025361468

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=900992008694803&set=pcb.900992025361468

That looks quite good 

On 21/02/2024 at 12:19, atom3624 said:

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Bit of speed tape and the engineers will sign it off ..

Guinness world record “ biggest thread creep “

Saw a video with Pete waterman , I think he was right in the concept that kids today want to see todays railways as much as we all did in our day .

I imagine in 30 years time all the Gen z who liked trains will be nostalgic for  the covid era and building layouts with the units of today utilising their newly found extra disposable income .

And so the cycle will continue . As long as their are trains , there will be train fans and by extension modellers 

Hi,

I have just brought my first Bachmann modern unit as below and I’m rather enamoured with it .

I was wondering if anyone knows the colours for the seats and floor as I’d like to paint them .

Unit dates from between 1999 and 2005 I believe ,

Thanks in advance ,

Even with underscale  wheels it doesn’t have the same issue as the Hornby one , in so much as it looked like it was on tip toes to me.

the gap bogie to body looks much better 

Just now, AY Mod said:

 

Some felt the Molecular Integrity Longevity Fix was worthwhile.

A valid point . I remember the day my two crumbled 

8 minutes ago, Richard RK3 said:

Mind you, the Hornby version I own is actually a fairly recent one, no: 31147 (product no: R3880) which was released in 2021.  

I don’t think they’ve done anything to update it other than remove the working fan over time 

Does the smoke look anything bordering on realistic ? Ones I’ve seen demonstrate smoke isn’t scaleable 

4 hours ago, McC said:

 

None at all remotely taken. We are grey / charcoal boxes tho to stick with the box based nomenclature 😃

As a system it could almost work . Cavalex have orange boxes . Revolution have black boxes I think…. Probably recording your data and transmitting to the wife/ significant other … :)