DaveF

This afternoon's photos are all on the Southern, taken around 1952. I've done them in rather a rush as I've been at work all day which is very unusual as normally I work from home, part time, only going to my office about once every couple of months. So my apologies for any mistakes which are more careless than usual! London Victoria Battle of Britain 34074 46 Squadron le c1952 JVol3122 London Victoria Victoria to Dover boat train leaving c1952 JVol3123 Brighton C2X 32451 le c1952 JVol3124 Brighton E4 32519 shunting loco coal c1952 JVol3125 Shoreham by Sea inside motion of C2X c1952 JVol3126 Shoreham by Sea 2BIL Littlehampton to Brighton pass c1952 JVol3127 Shoreham by Sea M7 30049 push pull Horsham to Brighton c1952 JVol3128 Shoreham by Sea cab of C2X JVol3129 David

Thanks rob, You could well be right. I honestly can't remember the location despite travelling over the bridge daily on the way to and from school in the late 50s! I'll alter the caption. Edit. I've just found a trackplan/map of the location, I understand it much better now. They are available at: http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/map/planIndex.php David

Some more for this evening. Quite a variety of places and some in colour. The colour ones were prints made in 1960 from Dad's slides. Loughborough Central B1 up Manchester to Marylebone c1950 JVol3113 Cambridge South J15 pass Haverhill to Cambridge c1948 JVol3114 Barkston A4 60010 Dominion of Canada up Flying Scotsman Aug 55 JVol3115 Barkston A3 60063 Isinglass up ex pass Newcastle to Kings Cross Aug 55 JVol3116 Burton Salmon c1955 JVol3117 Banbury GWR 6696 le c1948 JVol3119 London Victoria Batle of Britain 34067 Tangmere le c1952 JVol3120 London Victoria West Country 34101 Hartland boat train Victoria to Dover c1952 JVol3121 David

Mum came from Loughborough so they may just have been walking in the area . David

This afternoon's photos once again involve Nottingham, Grantham and Cambridge. As always Dad was taking advantage of his track pass. Weekday Cross Junction D2 pass Derby Friargate to Grantham c1950 JVol3105 Bulwell Common J39 64807 shunting c1950 JVol3106 Grantham North A1 up ex pass c1949 JVol3107 Grantham North K3 Grantham to Boston c1951JVol3108 Stanford on Soar north of Loughborough ex pass York to Swansea and O1 down goods c1951 JVol3109 Wilford Bridge River Trent GC V2 ex pass Marylebone to Manchester c1951 JVol3110 Cambridge South B1 down pass Kings Cross to Cambridge c1948 JVol3111 Cambridge B1 1285 down ex pass Liverpool St to Kings Lynn c1947 JVol3112 David

Also this one in Brighton. Brighton 1950 M17 David

I don't know whether these photos of Dad's will help - on early Ilford slide film I think for Scarborough and Whitby, Brighton is probably Ferrania film.. I haven't got his notes for these at home at the moment so the dates could be a year either way. Brighton c1952 226 Brighton c1952 234 Scarborough c1952 079 Scarborough c1952 086 Whitby c1952 091 Edited to amend dates David

This evening's batch -Cambridge, Lincoln, Grantham and the GC main line. Cambridge South O7 WD down goods c1948 JVol3096 Cambridge south B1 61094 Cambridge to Kings X and B1 KIngs X to Cambridge c1948 JVol3097 Cambridge south B1 61094 pass Cambridge to Kings Cross c1948 JVol3098 Loughborough Central B1 up pass c1950 JVol3099 Lincoln Central up pass c1949 JVol310 Cambridge B1 1286 Liverpool St to Yarmouth c1948 JVol3102 Arkwright Street B1 61202 ex pass Manchester to Marylebone c1950 JVol3103 Grantham North A3 60080 Dick Turpin up Northumbrian c1949 JVol3104 Edited to correct a caption. David

This afternoon we again look at the Great Central as well as a couple of other locations nearer London. My apologies for the "white stripes", some of the prints are not in the best of condition in this batch. Nottingham Goods south B1 61184 ex pass Marylebone to Manchester c1952 JVol3088 I'm not sure exactly where Dad was standing. There seem to be very few photos taken between just south of Arkwright Street and Wilford Bridge on the GC over the River Trent, I can't even find ones in books on the GC. I'm always hoping that one day I'll find a photo of Nottingham Goods. Nottingham Goods south (I think) O1 63687up goods c1952 JVol3089 Weekday Cross A5 pass Grantham to Derby Friargate c1952 JVol3090 Bethnal Green Junction left B1 Yarmouth to Liverpool St right B17 Liverpool St to Kings Lynn c1948 JVol3091 Loughborough Central V2 60963 up fish c1951 JVol3092 Bethnal Green Junction B1 Yarmouth to Liverpool St c1948 JVol3093 Loughborough Central water tower c1951 JVol3094 Hitchin LNER Sentinel Y3 8175 in loco yard c1948 JVol3095 Edited for typos. David

Thanks for the correction. Why is it the captions I check are always right, the ones I copy from Dad's notesare wrong? Once again I should have noticed, I used to drive over the crossing at Sleaford regularly back in the early 70s. David

Andy, Many thanks for the plan and notes. An up train would make a lot more sense. Huntingdon is a place I never visited at all, apart from passing through it on the ECML so I was unable to check out Dad's caption. Having now had a look at the back of the print it is stated to be a "St Ives to Huntingdon pick up goods", which logically is an up train. I've no idea why he wrote "down" in his catalogue for the album! David

This evenings batch, starting in Daybrook and ending up in Spalding. For those who don't know Nottingham Daybrook was on the "back line" built by the Great Northern which ran to the north of the city, forming part of two ovals, to the east of the station was the junction with the suburban line, the other line went to Gedling from which you could still reach Nottingham VIctoria or travel direct to Grantham. Lines in the Nottingham area were quite complicated. Daybrook L1 Basford and Bulwell to Nottingham Victoria via the back line c1954 JVol3079 Daybrook wagons including ICI tanker in up goods c1954 JVol3080 Nottingham Midland D11 62667 Somme pass Nottingham to Lincoln c1953 JVol3082 Grantham Ivatt 4MT 43080 pass Grantham to Nottingham VIctoria c1952 JVol3083 Barkston A2 up ex pass c1959 JVol3084 There are a few photos in his albums taken around 1959, he hadn't a darkroom then so I don't know why he reverted to monochrome. I remember the day out with him at Barkston as it was the first time I was allowed to use his camera to take a photo. Sleaford J39 up special c1952 JVol3085 Sleaford K2 61771 up special c1952J Vol3086 Sleaford J39 up special c1952 JVol3087 David

Once again this afternoon we are mainly in the Nottingham area with a quick trip to both the Lincolnshire coast and Rugby. For those who are not too sure of the railway geography of the area you may need some maps. Nottingham Victoria B1 61376 station pilot le 1953 JVol3070 Sutton on Sea K2 61746 pass Boston to Grimsby c1952 JVol3071 Bagthorpe Junction B1 ex pass Manchester to Marylebone c1952 JVol3072 Bottesford East Junction view towards south junction c1952 JVol3073 New Basford J39 down goods c1952 JVol3074 Rugby Central B1 ex pass Manchester to Marylebone c1953 JVol3075 Basford West Junction MR J6 is on GN Derby line bridge c1951 JVol3076 Daybrook WD down goods c1954 JVol3078 More to come later on again. David

RMWeb really is a superb source of information, very many thanks Andy. David

An example is GWR Pannier tank 8700, the link is to a photo of it with the GWR shirt button crest still surviving , captioned as taken on 28th February 1960. http://www.flickr.com/photos/44544845@N08/8637307163/ There is a photo of the same loco in "Drawn by Steam" by LC Jacks, pub Bradford Barton dated 1959 with the shirt button crest. IF you think how long it is taking DBS to repaint locos in these very image conscious times..... David

I don't know why I put E4, Dad's notes clearly say J15. Perhaps I need new reading glasses. That makes sense. I've amended the captions. Many thanks to you both. David

This evening's set are a mix of locations on ex GNR, GCR and GNR lines, including some civil engineering work. Huntingdon East J15 5451 up pick up goods c1947 JVol3054 Huntingdon Ouse Bridge rebuilding up line cMay 1949 JVol3055 Huntingdon North A1 60122 unnamed pass Peterborough to Kings Cross c1948 JVol3056 Cambridge B1 up pass Cambridge to Kings Cross c1948 JVol3065 Kings Cross N2 pass Kings Cross to Hatfield c1948 JVol3066 Nottingham Victoria A5 up pass Mansfield to Nottingham c1950 JVol3067 Nottingham Victoria Union Road overbridge under repair c1950 JVol3068 Stanford on Soar north of Loughborough GC B1 61158 ex pass Marylebone to Sheffield c1950 JVol3069 David

Somewhat earlier than usual here are the first batch for today. Once again we are in the Nottingham area but have time for a flying visit to Kings Cross Loco and then on to Louth. Annesley Tunnel K2 and K3 up fish c1952 JVol3046 London Kings Cross B1 61093 and L1 c1952 JVol3047 Holinwell Halt Annesley ambulance carriage and ambulance van c1952 JVol3048 Nottingham Victoria K2 61729 pass Nottingham to Grantham c1952 JVol3049 Nottingham Victoria B1 61317 ex pass Marylebone to Manchester c1952 JVol3050 Louth C12 67398 pas Willoughby to Louth via Mablethorpe c1952 JVol3051 Louth C12 pass Louth to Grimsby c1952 JVol3052 The coaches appear to be lined, apparently this was done with some of the first crimson non corridor stock repaints by BR. Until 1956 the loco was allocated to Louth. It would not have been taken in the days of maroon BR non corridor stock as it appears that the only time we went into Louth was when we stayed there in either 1952 or 3. I don't remember it (I would have been 3 or 4) but when I was in Louth a few years ago I had a remarkable sense of deja vue. Also by the time stock was painted maroon Dad was doing no monochrome photography as he no longer had a darkroom. Bagthorpe Junction O4 down goods c1952 JVol3053

I did wonder that too but decided to stick with Dad's notes. I wondered if it was moving up and down as required - which I have seen elsewhere, Dad usually got the main direction of movement right. Remember that the image numbers are not always indicative of the time they were taken, the prints had notes on the back as to location (but not much else) and were put into albums in a fairly random order. Fortunately Dad also made notes in exercise books as he put them into albums. David

Time now for this evening's trip back in time. Once again we are paying quick visits to locations around Nottingham on the GCR and GNR and on to Loughborough. New Basford Haydn Road Bridge A5 up pass c1952 JVol3037 Bulwell GC J5 65486 ballast train working wrong line c1952 JVol3038 Nottingham London Road Goods GN J52 68814 c1952 JVol3039 Carrington N1 up pass Pinxton to Nottingham Victoria c1953 JVol3040 Carrington A5 69877 up le c1953JVol3041 Bagthorpe Junction Signal Box c1950 JVol3043 Loughborough Central rear of goods train in down loop c1950 JVol3044 Annesley J5 up pw train c1953 JVol3045 David

This afternoon we have two more photos in Manchester and the rest are on the GC and GN around Nottingham. Manchester London Road A5 69806 c1954 JVol3027 Manchester London Road emu to Glossop and Hadfield c1954 JVol3028 New Basford O1 63879 down empty coal c1952 JVol3029 Bagthorpe Junction O1 up coal c1952 JVol3030 Basford and Bulwell K2 61777 le c1952 JVol3031 Basford and Bulwell GN shunting signals c1952 JVol3032 Bagthorpe Junction J11 propelling brake van c1952 JVol3033 Bullwell GC J5 65486 up ballast train wrong line c1952 JVol3035 David

Lovely work Mark. You've captured the atmosphere of the ironstone quarry lines really well - it looks just like some of the sites I knew in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire just before they closed. David

As requested, a couple of photos of Dad. Dad was 21 when he took the earliest photos in this thread (1947) after he returned from the army in India having been very ill. He took his last railway photo a few days before he died in 2005. His "policy" on railway photography was simple - if he could he took a photo of every train he saw, together with anything else of interest. He always said a real railway enthusiast should be interested in all aspects of railways, not just locomotives. He enjoyed photographing diesels and electrics as much as steam so after 1968 he kept on taking photos. To him a railway was anything which had wheels and ran on rails - even rails on slipways could count! He went just about everywhere with Mum, once I was old enough she generally accompanied him on his trips, she is still a keen photographer - and takes railway pictures. She always encouraged his railway modelling, so he had his railway and photography room and she had her sewing and photography room! But as I've mentioned earlier she worked for a time around the end of the war as a steam turbine designer at the Brush works in Loughborough after she gained her degree, so she likes anything mechanical. . Dad at Pilmoor in 1966 Dad and Mum Golden Wedding Day 2003 David

I'll have to see what I can find. David