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Hi Andy, will your 3d printed bases be available to purchase at all? My hoppers look a bit bare without any loads in at present.Cheers Paul

A lot of the exhibition was set up this afternoon and evening with just a few to arrive in the morning. A man in a checked pattern shirt was spotted in the exhibition hall lol. Hope to see some rmwebbers at the show I will be helping to operate Hazel Valley running in BR Blue diesel era. Cheers Paul

Quick update the first shuttle bus is intended to arrive at Hazel Grove station for 09.50 and then work the half-hourly timetable from there onwards. Cheers Paul

Steam era yes definitely should have the raised letters. I think I have a copy of that book somewhere I will have a look to check.Cheers Paul

What is the poor Stig doing in the ground?? Ah I got it he is inspecting the bridge foundations Paul

Hello All, a further update to the RMT/Northern strike - a timetable has now been added to the Northern site https://www.northernrailway.co.uk/strike and in particular timetable N20 **Please bear in mind - any visitors intending to travel to and from Hazel Grove by train on Saturday are strongly urged to check if train services are actually running on the day themselves.** I will confirm the plan for the heritage shuttle bus from the exhibition to the train station and what time and frequency they will operate but I believe a bus every half hour with lunchtime break both days was the planned timetable. Regards Paul Edited

Not a checked pattern boxfile micro layout I hope??Cheers Paul

Oh buffers... I was planning to visit Peak this Friday or next Monday weather permitting to gets some more snaps... so the Holding Sidings are a long walk then up via Peak Dale itself.Cheers Paul

Have you not been chatting with BigDave for next year?Paul

Well I have had a good look at mine and I even ordered extra models from version 4A to 6BW. And more may follow next month.. I have started my remedial modelling work to remove and add detail as appropriate. Transfers in my collection will come in handy for redoing the black data panels and numbering. As for the yellow id discs that should be kept clean these will have to cleaned off if the weathering can be gently removed without damaging the black ICIM and 19xxx numbers. Or new ones added. As I am mainly modelling 1989 to 1991 most of mine can retain the letters but some colour will need adding to pick them out dirty yellowish. I am aiming to have some running in blue diesel era at Hazel Grove show next weekend 27th/28th on the club layout Hazel Valley. And in doing so it will in effect be time to retire the rake of 7 resin High Peak casters models that I first brought back in the late 80s and upon joining HGDMRS in 1996 vowed to make them run properly. And that I did with a lot of mods and I even managed to persuade Kevin the then Hazel Valley layout manager to let me improve their own rake of 7. And very pleased they were too especially since they tended to sit in the siding until then due to their poor running and top-heavy nature. Cheers Paul

Hi Martin, not seen you for a while only a brief wave at York so it will be good to see you at Hazel Grove I hope you will enjoy the weekend with us on the last show for Kinmundy.Cheers Paul

Hello All, here are the final exhibitors and traders booked to come to the Hazel Grove exhibition on Saturday 27th and Sunday 28th October 2018. Important: There have also been some changes forced upon this year: Firstly, regarding the catering for the visiting public in that we have lost the use of the school canteen and kitchens so we have an alternative plan in place to feed and water the public. And don't worry exhibitors and traders will be catered for as well. Secondly, as you will hopefully be aware but the RMT have announced some further strike dates and this includes Saturday 27th. Although we don't know what service they plan to run on the 27th be it an hourly service Manchester Piccadilly to Buxton or worse still a rail replacement bus or coach. Our plan is to still provide the free vintage shuttle bus to and from Hazel Grove Station and the Exhibition to try and meet the incoming trains from Manchester. Now if they stick to what is planned for this coming Saturday 20th then the timetable is planned for an hourly service from Piccadilly departing at 08:24 then xx:24 or xx:25; Stockport departing xx:34/35; Hazel Grove arriving xx:48. Coming from Buxton they depart there at xx:35 and arrive at Hazel Grove at xx:10; Stockport xx:20 and finally Piccadilly xx:35/36. Please check the National Rail Timetables either online or at your local station to find out what the actual service will be on the 27th but I will update myself on here next week. Exhibitors: Martin Jones - Kinmundy - Diesel EM Richard Smith - Welney Depot - 1960's Tramway OO Danny Kaye - Yorkshire Coast Electric Tramway - Tram OO Dave Haughton - Scrich Model Tramway Museum - Tram OO HGDMRS - Hazel Valley - Blue Diesel OO HGDMRS - Ash Valley - Steam O Paul Humphreys - Stepzon Hertz - Lego Layout HGDMRS - Hazeltown *- Anything OO Mark Howarth - Kexby - Steam OO Ryan Brown - Low Moor - Steam N Russell Hampson - Patricroft Low - Blue Diesel OO Simon Cullen - Westmoor Junction - Blue Diesel OO Traders: Crafty Hobbies Made in Manchester Models Booklaw Publications High Lane Model Railways North Western Models Axminster Tools & Machinery Country Scenes & Trees PowerBond and of course our famous Club Sales Stand with models, books, dvds, odds and sods for sale Hazel Grove High School, Jackson's Lane, Hazel Grove SK7 5JX Saturday 27th October 2018 Opening times: 10am to 5pm Sunday 28th October 2018 Opening times: 10am to 4pm Admission: Adults £7 (accompanied children go free) Child £3 Ample free parking on site or park at Hazel Grove Station courtesy of Northern Rail and use the vintage bus to get to the show. Club website www.hgdmrs.org.uk Regards Paul Harrison for HG&DMRS

Harrington? I best check my birth certificate lolPaul

Hi, yes I got the weathered ones as my original intention was to buy one of each model then get additional wagons as needed. So given that the last two have not been produced I doubled up on two then with some extra dosh I had managed to save up ordered some more. I will have a bash at renumbering some and that means reinstating the yellow id discs that should be clean and present on the left hand end of each solebar plus adding the ohle flashes plus the one missing from under the end lip (between the two T stays). I've plenty of photos of the real wagons taken in 1998 before most went for scrap. Cheers Paul

Excellent photos. I am aiming to have mine running at Hazel Grove show at end of month - last weekend as running Hazel Valley in BR Blue era.Cheers Paul

Yes large letters with plate frame bogies as built nos. 3284-3319 which became ICIM 19084-119Cheers Paul

Post 1982 the small lettered hoppers with diamond frame bogies with roller bearings were gradually uprated with refurbished plate frame bogies with roller bearings as shown.. so 19019 small letters plate bogies roller bearings is correct. ICIM I believe acquired a large quantity of the plate frame bogies from the similar John Summers/British Steel PHO iron-ore hoppers after this fleet became surplus following cessation of steelmaking at Shotton in 1979/80. Exact number of bogie pairs purchased is unknown but I'd estimate at least 90 pairs allowing them to replaced 84 diamond pairs plus spares for remainder of existing plate framed fleet. Paul

Model 4BW 19033 Model 6BW 19019 Taken down at Hazel Grove clubrooms under fluorescent lights. Cheers Paul

No photos to hand yet as only had a quick look at them last night but it almost looks as if they have been over sprayed a darker shade of brown which obscures the black data panel, overhead flashes and on the 1973 onwards versions the yellow TOPS wagon ID discs. Pretty sure these would need to be readable for ID and safety purposes? Model 6B is a bit of an oddity as it is numbered up as 19019 but had wide spaced lettering patches that from memory only was applied to two wagons 19039 and 19066 but I would need to check my own data and photo archive to be sure. I will try take some photos tonight when home. Paul

And therein lies the problem preserving wagons whatever their age... they cannot earn revenue unlike a carriage. There was a proposal to take them to work on the GCR Mountsorrel branch project as they were high capacity and crucially vacuum-braked. As you say they were offered around to no takers sadly. And when the change of management occured at Tunstead that was it and they were quickly disposed. Even my two contacts didn't even know they had been scrapped until a good week after. 60 years for the hoppers verses at a guess 45 or so for MGRs? I think they both made an important contribution to railfreight in their time. Anyway DW over now so can have a proper look at my hoppers I collected from Hatton's today. Cheers Paul

There should be two at SVR 19052 & 19129. Only 6 in preservation the others being 19000/3200 and 19036/3236 at MRC Swanwick Jnc., 19154 at NRM Locomotion Shildon and finally 19161 believed to still be in private store owned by Andrew Goodman.It could have been 12 preserved had Tarmac not let the 6 that had been stored at Tunstead go for scrap a few years ago. Paul

A shame.. they both need a lot of tlc to bring them back to their best...Paul

It is up to you but those Bachmann ones aren't really the right design. Have you tried S-Kits whitemetal bogies. I haven't got a list to hand but I think he used to make the cast SeM Y25s in his range. Paul

I placed my order for the remaining 8 wagons last night and all being well I will collect them from the store this weekend. I also purchased some extra ones to with the extra money I have been saving up since the first models were released earlier this year. I had always planned to buy all 20 models right from when they were first announced despite my suprise at the project and non-involvement. As I listed in my previous posting the wagons have been a popular choice for proposals over the years. One thing that hasn't been explained is why the last two aren't being produced other than an 'unavoidable' comment... unvoidable why? And does this stop any future versions of the models being announced and released? Cheers Paul

The bogies are described in the book on Standard Railway Wagon Co Heywood Works as being Sambre-et-Meuse UIC cast steel Y25 primary suspension bogies fitted with TBL composition brake shoes. These were fitted to the original Hall Aggregates batch HALL 13700-712 later became RMC 13700-712 88T glw built 1984 and the follow on batch of 90T wagons for RMC Peakstone RMC 17201-224. HTH Paul