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Videography is no different from stills photography in essence. The same basic rules apply in terms of legality and responsibilities. YT, insta and Tiktok etc have just made it ‘easier’ for people to make money from images.

I think people are getting to focused (see what I did there) on the subject being a model railway item. It’s no different to going to a classic car show, or an airshow. If a photographer took a good picture of a spitfire and sold it to planes weekly, you’d not expect them to reimburse the aircraft operator, or pilot. Take a nice picture of the red arrows display at your village fete, who do you pay? Public space, no photo T&C’s restrictions, = open season.

Many of the complex liveries are vinyl wraps these days. There’s two big factors, weight (as per @Jeff Smithabive) and time to apply them means operating cost savings and speed to apply and remove them. Also large numbers of airframes are owned by lessors, and wraps mean livery changes are easy and cost effective if the airframe moves to a different user, like the A320 equivalent of white van man you see in Europe. This is why you see outline patches on some aircraft, they have potentially changed operators, or a new corporate design modification is needed, eg when Thompson’s changed to TUi. https://www.larchfield-aerospace.com Removing paint is challenging in environmental terms and can have unexpected consequences. US Air absorbed some BAe146’s into their fleet from another operator exPSA IIRC. US air famously have a natural metal finish on the fuselage, and they set about cutting the paint back with abrasive to return the fuselages to natural metal. It got messy literally as some cutting back went too far, and some rivet heads and skin panel patches were needed to repair the ‘polishing’ see extract below from a repair design engineer: Inspection Service Bulletin for the affected airframes, this imposed regular inspections on various panels. The issue was not just about the rivet heads, it was also areas of skin panels had been reduced in thickness by the "over-enthusiastic" polishing. I know some weird #### from my time in the industry…

So do I, with certain exceptions. An exhibition used an image of mine, of one of my layouts to advertise their show in a magazine. They didn’t ask to use the image which they stole from my website. Not only that, I wasn’t even attending the show, and it was a show I never would have attended as either exhibitor or visitor. So they were publishing my photo and using my layout image to sell their show. They didn’t tell the magazine the image was a copyright infringement. They had a very simple explanation given to them with two choices. Pay the invoice I’d provide, or make a suitable payment to a specific charity, they chose the second (cheaper) option.

If you’re working in a professional capacity it’s your duty to understand them and act accordingly. It’s not that difficult.

^^ Absolutely. We’ve been through this many times over the years in ‘exhibition threads’. No such rule exists. If anyone paid up they must have been completely unaware of their rights, as the post is written, getting someone to pay could be dangerously close to fraudulent activity. If as a freelance photographer I take a picture of an artefact at an exhibition, where photography isn’t controlled or prohibited/restricted by the T&C’s of my entry, I can use it as I wish. If I want to sell the image I can, if I want to use it to criticise the artefact (even unfairly/rudely/mocking etc) I can do so, as long as I don’t fall foul of libelous comments. The simple rule is if you don’t want your artefact photographed and the image distributed unrestricted, do not exhibit at a public exhibition where photography is allowed.

‘Route proving’ is more to do with certification criteria to ensure a type is suitable to operate routes and involves range/navigation testing, it’s often done in conjunction with customers(airlines) prior to the types introduction to service. A ’proving’ flight/s is the airline specific equivalent where an airline will test the actual route with typical loads and check all aspects of the flight, the technical data including route structure, ground handling teams, airport infrastructure and anything likely to affect the normal operations on the specific route. These days the ‘Route Proving’ at certification testing is more than accurate enough in data capture, to allow airline commercial teams to validate a route without test flying it. The ultimate test of course being does the route sell when released.

That wouldn’t work for myself. Eg for Warley, that would mean six hour and a half journeys over the weekend for myself and if I minimum man for the layout, one other operator. My ‘team’ being dispersed rather than local. It also risks traffic delays, which if you wanted to ensure missing those means an even earlier departure. Fag packet calculation: Allowing £0.25/mile 12x90 miles = £270 for two people, then there’s van hire (regular transit), £160. Even if I lived 1 hour drive away, that’s still unappealing, and the accommodation option would be by far a better option for multiple practical reasons, rather than personal preferences.

This caught my eye, is this a new expenses thing? I appreciate not having accommodation for those exhibitors/demo’s that are ‘close’, that makes sense, but never seen a mileage/time radius allocated to it at any shows I’ve exhibited at, (Warley included).

If it helps Hatfield still had semaphores in 1970, and it was around 1972 that WGC changed over to colour light signalling, prior to the electrification scheme and the building of the stabling sidings and flyover.

All that image sums up is that the camera angle isn’t the same, so the various curves aren’t replicated via the camera lens. We’ve been here before with these ‘comparisons’ many years back with electric nose. The easy way to see this is looking at those two images. The model the sides perspective are going upwards along the length of the model, the prototype the sides are going downward, and you can see more of the left hand side. Therefore the central point of the lens isn’t at an identical location, and that’s without ensuring the focal length of the lens is the same to exclude any lens distortion. The buffers aren’t even level between the images and the right hand side you can see the angle of the body reflected by the left hand buffer being lower against the horizontal. No dog in this fight, just highlighting false flags. To me the models face does successfully capture the 47. I’ve been going through Newark recently and there’s a pair there, and looking at them, nothing stands out as ‘wrong’ for me.

I agree, it’s quite well covered for BR steam eras considering how few items are available compared to the OO market!

Some images here https://albionyard.com/2023/11/26/warley-2024-images-from-the-trade-3/

Mine running on Shelfie2, all it does is bring short rakes of wagons into or out of the layout, so far with total reliability and controllability using plain vanilla DC and a Gaugemaster W controller.

The line certainly covers that aspect, and if you're working in either OO (in particular), or N you can get a good head start with plenty of appropriate RTR locomotives and rolling stock. With the scenery and availability of appropriate stock it's always surprised me there's an absolute paucity of good welsh layouts particularly covering the central core of the country, and the far mid west.

One bit that wasn’t particularly good was the queue organising this morning. On arrival 0920(ish) I was directed to join the ‘model railway’ queue. What wasn’t made clear was that this was for pre paid ticket holders. I followed this round the loop in the building until it became clear on reaching the show entrances that is was for pre paid holders. I then joined the ticket buying queue which was feeding into a room around the room and out again to the booths. The NEC staff then told the queue to fill up the room in effect disperse the queue to become a room full of people with no priority for anyone. everyone played nicely and pretty much retained their queue place, but plenty of wtf is this? comments. On reaching the booths the card only queues were relatively slow, but there was one window actually taking cash which is what I did to cut the wait. The above is obviously an NEC issue rather than the show organisers, but it was a bit frustrating for me and others who had the same experience. As far as the show goes I felt it was good but not exceptional, having been to most of the NEC Warley shows, plenty of varied trade and layouts. Paying in effect £25 entry and £18 NEC parking it was reasonable value for money, and nothing in the above puts me off going next year.

There’s very few that I can recall that have been made if you’re referring to layouts made based on the central Wales. In one of the Model Rail layout plan books Paul Lunn and I worked up one based on Builth Wells. There’s also an 2FS layout based I believe on Llanidloes, and Iain Rice drew up a very good version of Swansea Victoria.

I’ll have one. Apart from that‘nothing in it for me’… 🙂

Warley hasn’t happened yet, these and other announcements are now regularly being done in the fortnight before the show.

That’s a relief, if you know, you know.. 🙂

This. ^^

Well your list of items that make a model or layout ‘average’ means that even an S4/2FS/S7 modeller is average. You mention a bell curve but provide no statistical model to work from. So without ‘qualification’ in a form that most people can relate to, your ‘average’ discussion point is perhaps unclear. The levels of detail has been discussed many times here and in almost every item new release thread. Manufacturers have responded, and continue to do so, to the market wanting more details and more functionality. Simples.

It’s currently in tooling 🤐

Nope, they don’t have tie bars, and the axle guards are different. https://albionyard.com/2022/11/10/peco-quality-line-n-gauge-wagons-review/ The brake lever stirrup is chunky on the seven planks, but can be cut thinner with a scalpel.

https://muc-off.com Use their spray leave it for a few minutes then I agitate it with a 3 inch paint brush and wash it off with sponge and warm water. Works with this ^^, it’s not cheap but it is very effective and fast. If you have to put a bike away dirty, it’s excellent on dried on thick mud too.