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2 minutes ago, Peter749 said:

I think you mentioned in a previous post that Cavalex were looking at released a decoder that was set up for these locos?

 

I asked Rails and they are mapping decoders for those people who purchased DCC Fitted.

At the moment they don't have them for sale on their website.

We are just sorting out the logistics of getting these to customers. The lokpilot file for the Cavalex 56 by ESU is currently available to download free of charge from their website should you have the ability to blow your own decoders.

1 minute ago, The Fatadder said:

For ideas for future releases, how about one of the locos that were running in triple grey with no branding, not just good for people wanting that particular loco but also perfect for anyone renumbering to any sector or Transrail.   (It would be a great choice for the 60 for the same reasoning, just adding Mainline / Loadhaul/EWS branded triple grey to the potential renumbering list)

 

 

It's possible however it is a breeze to remove the sector locos with some white spirit on a cotton bud.

19 minutes ago, IOW O2 said:

Your right, however seeing the DCC ones working they look good.☺️

I agree they do look great. We will keep you informed as soon as we know more.

22 minutes ago, IOW O2 said:

Any update on the issue, holding back for now on ordering watching a stock level at the mo.

We are still waiting on ESU currently, however is the ability for operating fans on DC so important that you need to risk not getting the model that you want? Most models don't have working fans at all.

2 minutes ago, Midnight-Freight said:

Sorry, maybe I've misunderstood. I'm not too worried about full control. I'd be happy with the tail lights working

Either way you still need to buy a decoder (unless running on DC only) so it makes more sense to buy a pre-programmed one and get the full functionality.

24 minutes ago, Midnight-Freight said:

Ok, I must have missed that info when I pre-ordered. It does make the £189 DCC ready option seem a bit pointless if you then have to buy a separate decoder to get something as basic as tail lights to work though. 

That's not really the case. Basic functions work with any decoder. You only need the programmed one if you want proper controllable lighting functions. 

1 hour ago, Midnight-Freight said:

I've just bought a DCC ready version and understand there are issues with the lighting when using other decoders. I've fitted mine with the Hattons decoder that came with their 66. At present I have headlight and marker lights working but no tail lights, fans or cab lights. Given the extra lighting functions the Hattons 66 had am I likely to be able to get the remaining functions working and if so could anyone offer any advice on how to go about setting it up?

Lighting is loco specific. You will not get correctly operating lighting unless you purchase a pre programmed decoder. If the dip switches are set for a standard decoder or DC you will get basic lighting only.

1 hour ago, ColinB said:

Just for information. I have just received the sound decoder from Road and Rails fitted with the Cavalex profile. I could not get the fans to work, even after I set the DIP switches, so eventually I read the manual. If I read it right, there are no functions to switch the fans on, only to switch them off. The fans are controlled by the running of the loco, so effectively no user control other than to switch them off. So there isn't a fault with the decoder, it is meant to work like that.

No, on sound the fans are completely automatic and respond to simulate engine heating under load. The function just deactivates them if that's what you want to do. 

1 hour ago, IOW O2 said:

He's selling as it doesn't have all wheel drive, it's the one here

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/165333-cavalex-all-new-class-56-in-oo/page/53/

Which is ridiculous as it literally still pulls like a train. Reading his description it looks like it has the dislodged tower cover issue. Instead of querying it though just decided it was the A1A drive causing the issue. 🙄

2 hours ago, Mark Forrest said:

56070 regauged to P4 and put to work on Fryers Lane.

Initially I found the wheels a little tight to gauge (17.5mm back to back) but these were easily eased out to something closer to 17.7mm and it runs very nicely.

 

I found the standard DCC settings excellent giving an enjoyable and intuitive driving experience.

They have run at the standard back to backs on every P4 layout we have tried them with no issues so far. In fact it ran on one where every other item of stock they had fell off, the 56 nailed it. Glad that it's works for you though. They look great on P4.

2 minutes ago, Dicky L said:

Out of curiosity, has anyone tried an EM1 in the 56?

Yes, when we were developing the speaker for the model. It doesn't sound good.

15 minutes ago, zr2498 said:

Thanks for info. Ordered the Cavalex sound files decoder from R & R. Having already one factory fitted sound 56, I knew what I would be getting 🙂

Had to go elswhere for the speaker as in big demand I guess.

Apparently ESU have changed the plug size on the commercial release of the speaker for some reason (without mentioning it to us) so is too big for the 56 socket now. You may need to source a different plug to solder in it's place or solder the wires to the speaker pads on the board for the new speaker.

Just a heads up.

1 hour ago, Roy Langridge said:

Perhaps it is just that they only decided to be a Cavalex retailer after orders for the 56 were closed?
 

Not long ago Cavalex were an unknown and with any unknown there is risk. Exactly the same as some individuals may have waited to see what early models were like, businesses may do the same. 
 

Now Cavalex have stamped their place on the market with several good models, perhaps we will see even more retailers. I hope so. 

 

Roy

Well we've been around as long as Accurascale have (7 years, 8 since we announced our first model) but somehow always went under the radar. 🤷

17 minutes ago, nickb4141 said:

I wonder if anyone can help with a couple of questions re the model I received today. I pre-ordered a sound fitted Colas 56 from Rails in May 2021, but they managed to cock up my order and I’ve got an analogue one instead! 
 

1. Does the analogue model come with a speaker pre fitted? I’ve had a quick look through the manual, but strangely it doesn’t seem to mention DCC sound fitting? 
 

2. The fans appear to be non operational? Is this just on the analogue models (I’m sure I read the model had operating fans, but I could have got that wrong!)

 

Thanks in advance, if anyone knows the answers!

 

Cheers, Nick

Hi Nick, no the none sound fitted locos do not have a speaker pre installed. The speaker and chip are part of the extra price paid for the sound version. The fans do operate yes however we are currently in contact with ESU as to whether they should operate on DC.

Well will keep you updated when we know more. 

If you ordered a sound version then Rails should be able to swap the loco for the one that you ordered!

3 minutes ago, James Makin said:

A quick silly question if I may please, is the below decoder the right kind of ESU Loksound (59029) one to go in these please?

 

 

I’m a bit of a technophobe in some respects so just wanted to double check before ordering the wrong ones!

 

Many thanks!

James

Do you not want to add sound?

For the lokpilot ESU recommended the 59619 but if you talk to rails they have been adding there own chips and have a pre programmed file for the loco.

Just now, Bryn_Bach_Railway said:

Sorry to keep asking about this but am I right In thinking these are going off what ESU call the aux ports? 
 

as such, going off the diagram helpfully provided by @Bloodnok, aux7 would be FA9 on Zimo, with all the others lining up with ESU? 

It's what they show as in the ESU Lokprogrammer.

2 minutes ago, ColinB said:

So is there a list of supported functions. I would like to use a Zimo sound decoder because I prefer them for their performance but YouChoos are asking for a list of the functions.

F0f - headlight front

F0r - headlight rear

aux1 - front markers

aux2 - rear markers

aux3 - fan #1

aux4 - fan #2

aux5 - front tails

aux6 - rear tails

aux7 - front cab

aux10 - rear cab

25 minutes ago, Ravel said:

I know its the first EP but will the buffer beam issue be resolved? There is no gap in reality, the buffers are snug to the base of the 'body'.

 

As can be seen in this lovely photo I found on Flickr..

 

 

Yes that will be sorted out don't worry. There is a reason it's like it is and we are aware of the issue. 👍

3 minutes ago, Bryn_Bach_Railway said:

Granted the cavalex 56 doesn’t have as many functions in use as the AS 37. But they have been far more helpful here from what I can gather. There are standards for a reason tho and restricting full functionality essential to one brand is not the right approach. 

 

I’d take a guess that it’s because they don’t normaly go above F5/6. Which is where decoders seem to vary from the standard or allow different options for this pins depending on cv settings. As such it would leave them with more questions about why a certain function isn’t working when it might be down to the decoders settings and not the model

The AS 37 doesn't have any more functions than the 56 unless it's a WIPAC lights fitted one which probably has day night mode on that one.

3 minutes ago, Peter749 said:

I have a problem with my Lenz LH90 System as it does not use Fn above 12 !

For my Accurascale 92s I had chips from DC Kits - that were programmed to use lower Fn keys.

 

I have two LH90 controllers with a LZV100 Base unit and to change to a new system would be fairly expensive.

 

Peter

Our chips are programmed to keep all of the functions for none sound below F10

12 minutes ago, Peter749 said:

The one part of the loco that seems strange is the way the DCC is set up.

 

With other models, like Bachmann, Dapol, Hornby,  you put in any 21 pin decoder and the Functions are already pre mapped.

In the instructions it says which Fn to use to make the lights and other things work.

 

I don't know why you cannot use a default 21 pin decoder for a non-sound version.

 

Peter

Because people want the functionality of independently controlled lighting with different modes for day/night, yard, on trains, light engine, etc etc etc. basic lighting functions will not allow for that. We either have basic lighting as we always have with plug and play or we have custom set ups to allow for it, which is ultimately superior. We are currently working on our custom chips so that people can purchase them already set up to use to gain full functionality. People with lokprogrammers etc can already program their own to suit.

14 minutes ago, Bryn_Bach_Railway said:

Using the logic of F3/4 doing the fans, the aux list should then be;

 

F0f - headlight front

F0r - headlight rear

F1 / aux1 - front markers

F2 / aux2 - rear markers

F3 / aux3 - fan #1

F4 / aux4 - fan #2

F5 / aux5 - front tails

F6 / aux6 - rear tails

F7 / aux7 - front cab

F10 / aux10 - rear cab

 

*that’s all based off information on this forum. I can’t test it myself just yet. But once I have my pair i will and update if it’s not been solved by then*

That's the aux connections in the loco but functions can be programmed in software to operate any aux they see fit so will depend entirely how the decoder is programmed. It's unlikely that F3 will be Aux 3 for instance.

Just now, Chilly said:

Same settings as you and same result - fan less 🤔 

 

 

We are currently in contact with ESU regarding the fan use on DC. Our spec and the instructions received from ESU (they designed the circuit board) suggests the dip switch settings for the fans on DC however we need to wait for the ESU engineer to get back us as to why they don't seem to be working currently.

3 minutes ago, Spanners Workshop said:

Yes, I got my sound fitted 56093 Wednesday 30th. I must say it's superb, seems to be the only one from the range that doesn't have a cab aerial which means I can't break it off :)

008 also doesn't have an aerial.

1 minute ago, zr2498 said:

Sorry if this sounds obvious but those plugs will only fit one way round. I am sure you have it correct but just in case?

That was going to be my next question.