Russ (mines a pint)

need to look again at this- might fit in the APA box in N wi my wee Dapol 26

Never remake a model but the original Deadwater trackplan & buildings was as accurate to the real location as my abilities would allow-

and it gave me much happiness

Well I managed to forego the temptation last summer. Sell of all my N gauge stuff over this winter including even all the little leftover 'bits' that you tend to hang onto as they'll not fetch much even if you do successfully manage to sell them....
 

then bought this!

(and yes I have noticed its a 26, lol   )
 

Nice to see this back on again! 

- having just finished clearing out all my 2mm stuff on Ebay what did I just go & buy? - a Dapol 26 lol!
 

Have you tried 'Lost Railways of West Yorkshire' website - not got the links handy but you will get it on Google?

There are plenty of other Scottish areas worthy of consideration, including the old HR lines south and east of Inverness, the old Great North of Scotland, the borders and the South West. More opportunity there for other locos like the new Farish Class 20s and the Class 101 DMUs, for example.

That is a very valid comment, the GNSR and GSWR and the borders are always very close to my heart-   If I had enough space to model them all I would,

- The Mallaig extension however is a top favourite of mine and is very appropriate for short & mixed trains in the blue period- possibly I would say like no other - the Kyle line had lost its mixed trains earlier - there were still oil tanks going on back of passenger trains well into the '37' era so youve got classes 20/27.37 to go at also the odd 24/25 though more common on the Oban section is not totally implausible.

I do worry that maybe the Highlands have been done a bit to death though.

possibly also true - but its something I've been meaning to do since I started modelling and had the odd stabs - in OO & N as mentioned already, I had a lima 27 converted out of a 33 long before lima ever thought of doing one - and the minitrix offering in N - I think the modern BRCW's in Heljan & Dapol guise may go some way to explaing the explosion in this type of layout?

concivincing buildings remain a problem if you dont want to research/build your own?

Those sketches were from a previous 'not built' layout on the old forum

- quite like the idea, but is just an idea at the moment!

Yes it'll be six yrs since I started it.  Whatever happened to Braidlie Burn Chris?

I've got a lot of plans and neither the time or space to do anything about it, sounds familiar?

- but its always something I'd like to revisit in either accurate-ish steam or diesel form and the rolling stock situation is looking much more favourable.

My apa box layout is still at 'modellers block' stage so who knows the track plan would be suitable for 'bitsa' Rothbury or Allendale - maybe it should move location (again, Lol!)

- remember you are scaling down colours as well in regards to 2mm!

I used 'faded' real photos on my 4mm Deadwater layout which was about similar to your #2 picture.

Even in 4mm it was slightly overpowering, I think that if I was doing it all again I'd go for something more like your third image, or somewhere between the second and third The thing is you couldnt go wrong with third as it IS often misty.

Above all just go for it, because even if you are only 90% satisfied with the saturation of the pic the overall effect of having the real place in the backscene will be so much more rewarding than using a commercial backscene.

Nice to see another version, for some reason had quite a fascination with this station since reading the original RM article 1980's? 1986 I think?

really like this- 'bloody great viaducts' are a sure fire way of making things unmodellable in many peoples books!

love the shadow cast over the ground below, cracking!

What's 4mm?

In my case it was EM which is a bit nearer 4mm scale than OO but still not quite!

I expect that you have already born in mind that the fiddle yard would be quite thin and possibly squeezed up in an area between the two boxes when stored?

The boxes will be end on under the stairs - the two boxes permanently joined, It kind of slots into a space between two cupboards, and the top of the box(es) just nicely fits under the stairs, so very little extra room!

 

A full size plan will help a great deal. It was the first thing I did when planning.

Yep- been on with that I'm now giving serious consideration to a rehash of my EM layout in 2mm with all the things I would have done different with hindsight! - though I'll not make it a 'carbon copy' - there will be much more room for scenic depth ( and height!) in a 2mm version

yeh, well I'm using b8 points in 2mm instead of b6 in EM so I suppose there is a bit extra length in the pointwork there.

So comparable with Lickey Bank then, but thats only 2 miles and relatively straight- from knowing the geography in that area I think the hill would be longer and curvature more severe! If I remember the road is 1 in 10 or 1 in 9 in places.

of all the HR proposals I think the Ullapool one was most likely (of the ones that didnt actually get built) - but I still think accessing there from Garve would have some insurmountable problems, not least the big drop/climb at Braemore/Corrieshalloch Gorge area.

My suggested route here could have gone up the much more forgiving glen oykel, and the story will go that the railway and its backers offered a new purpose built port, a small settlement around which would then have grown.

in addition a shorter crossing to Stornaway possibly half an hour or 45 mins less than from Ullapool?

Got the 2 Apa boxes from Ikea today, so its now time to plan out just what will fit into them!

if adopted Port Kirkaig should be pronounced just as "Currig"- the gaels loose alot in the translation

Cool, so unless there has been a rash of micro-layout building in Glasgow & the west of scotland there should be some left! gonna find myself with a few hours to spare at Ibrox, Ikea doesnt look so far from there and a 10min frequency bus service, can taste the meatballs already lol!

You should just laugh it off! - I remember at one exhibition with Deadwater Burn two of said type of blokes trying to work out whether the backscene was a commercially available or commissioned one or what? It was more funny actually listening to all their various theories (none correct) than putting them right, tho I would have course if they had asked, told them exactly how it was done!

Nowt so queer as folk, as the saying goes!

like your style, I wouldnt even know where the marks were supposed to be, and the wagons look very good!

cheers, even after looking at that I still not sure which are the least inobtrusive , but thinking the Dapol stuff is going to be much easier to fit, on new-ish (NEM) stock anyway.

Cheers, both just been prodding about on the Dapol site they are already on there http://www.Dapol.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=362&category_id=30&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=59

given they plug in looking at the diagrams they are no more 'visible' than the DG's? - been looking at them on the MSE site?

-think the knuckles will be the way to go they not quite as obtrusive looking as in 4mm?

Do you think the spacer tool would still be useful on curves or is there some other technique?

from a quick look the spacer tool would not work on curves, you would need something that was flexible to the same degree as the track- and worked on the centre-line of the track-

the sleepers would have the same spacing at the centre line of the curve as they would on a straight section of track, but the outer ends would be very different?

I might just! - the 24 and 108 I have could be made to fit with this, we need an older version (ie not the air-braked) 26 though , sure it will!

If you can recreate in 2FS what you did with Deadwater Burn,

Thats possibly a good suggestion, you think just because you can build in one scale you could just progress into another, but its probably not the case really.

could have a similar simple plan, same buildings (as the plans are readily available) but different scenic features or even slightly different (ie NBR -somewhere else) or maybe even get some of those nice ready made MR buildings h'mmm?

in N with easitrack IIRC. Looks amazing, and would tempt me.

 

Yeah, that'd probably be the 'fallback' option as I have quite a bit of easitrack to get through!

thinking about it though, I was probably attempting 'curved points' which i had got to in 4mm maybe I try just a normal straight point next - the advantage of getting a dead straight stock rail using a 'straight edge' rather than fingers, might just be where its at! - the filing guides for the rails (vees) are fantastic - wish I'd had those in EM!

-so a 2mm 'son of Deadwater' then? - I could get fired up about that, still miss the old layout!

yeh, definitely want to stick with the scale and can see that it is making as much sense in the BR Blue era to stick with it - there is no need for any serious stock building hassle.

I did try making up one point over the summer but am struggling with the code40 rail even the heat/pressure from your fingers distorts it, let alone a soldering iron!

Amazed to have missed this on the old forum, very impressed.

Just read through all that at looked at the pics on here. All the usual 'no space for a layout' stuff applies but I think the 'forced perspective' works very well too.