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    Hi Mark,

     

    The quick answer to all three questions is theoretically YES. However it is seldom that simple!

     

    Kirby Hall was a late 1939 build, so almost certainly was out-shopped in lined green. Looking at its Engine Record Card data shows visits to Swindon in Oct 42 (probably received wartime black) and again in Aug 46 (probably plain green). The RCTS states that only a few of the original Halls gained lining again post war, and that was from Jan 48 onwards. She was back in Swindon for an Intermediate in Sep 48, when BR lined black would have been applied. So in a nutshell, if you want her post war……it's probably plain green.

     

    You might find some more useful livery info here http://www.ianrathbonemodelpainting.co.uk/gwr-locomotive-liveries-1923-39.php

     

    Regards,

     

    Andy.

    madpunkandy

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    Hi Andy,

    I for one will watch your progress with great interest as I spent many hours as a lad on Masborough, watching the seemingly endless procession of freight down the Old Main Line interspersed with Peaks, 47's and Lincoln Units on passenger workings. Happy days indeed!

    I often managed to get a ride in the Holmes Yard 08 and on a few occasions aboard 20's on trip workings.

    My parents lived in Kimberworth from 1973-81 and Grandparents in Greasborough until they passed away.

    Anyway enough reminiscence, best of luck with your project.

     

    Regards,

     

    Andy.

    alanbuttler

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    The only loco steps I can think of as an etch are the Comet products: LS34 GWR Loco & Tender Steps, LS76 Symmetrical Loco Steps. Pretty sure they are illustrated on their website, so you could see if they are suitable. I must confess on my Panniers I only took the file to the back of the front steps to thin them down a bit.

     

    You can't go wrong with any of the Wild Swan modelling books, especially for

    alanbuttler

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    Hi Alan,

     

    Great progress you are making on your 57xx which is coming together very nicely.

     

    Whistles and whistle shields, like most of GW standardisation, are a minefield of inconsistency! The vast majority (but not all) of the 57xx Panniers were fitted with the short shield you have modelled, from the early 1930's onwards. These were found to be inadequate and superseded by the longer (fireman's shovel) type shields on the 8750's from the late 1930's. These Collett cabbed Panniers of course had higher pitched roofs which necessitated a longer shield, but some ran with the short shield as well.

     

    To try and answer some of your specific questions, your whistle combo looks correct although again there was variation. The shield definitely stands proud of the firebox top and should be almost up to the line of rivets (thus standing higher than the top of the whistles). In reality the whistles were piped horizontally through the shield and into the cab, but this is impractical in 4mm without a fair degree of work. You could try positioning the whistles closer to the shield if possible to disguise this.

     

    For your info, Martin Finney does a nice whistle shield etch and have a look at the link to a real set due to be auctioned soon. Whilst this is good for detail the whistles appear to be the wrong way round!

     

    http://www.gcrauctions.com/sale173/lot453.html

     

    Keep up the good work and hope this is of help.

     

     

    Regards,

     

    Andy.

    alanbuttler

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    Hi Alan,

     

    Not madness and certainly not pointless. I went through exactly the same process with my Newton Abbot project and derived a great deal of enjoyment along the way. Historical accuracy is something I get a real buzz from and if like you the model is of an authentic scene, then it makes total sense. I set myself the September 1958 date for the buildings and infrastructure and have on the whole refined my stock to match. There has been the odd deviation such as a '1361' and the recent Dukedog, but these were Newton visitors from earlier in the 1950's. One of the bonus aspects of modelling a 'Works' is that you can include guests not usually found on shed, such as larger prototypes and loco's from other divisions. King's, 47xx's and the big 8-coupled tanks all visited the Newton Factory for attention.

    Your attention to detail so far has been top draw and if you are enjoying the journey then all is good!

     

    Regards,

    Andy.

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