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  1. Don't know what was in the hoppers that needed sheeting, but as you asked, here's the wagon you mention. It is an LNER type hopper. Also as internal used HUO's are the name of this thread, here are some more photos I took of them in internal use at Bolsover Coalite in August 1992. These 4 will have to surfice for the moment, but I took shots of another 16 wagons there, amongst an assortment of 21tHoppers of various origins, which have yet to be scanned. Enjoy! Paul J. Addendum. I have now rescanned the Bolsover HUO photos to a higher resolution, and also some others taken on that day, (another 20 wagons in addition to the 4 above), and have started to upload them into an HUO Album on my Flickr page. It can be found at this link. https://flic.kr/s/aHsmcWSNFy
  2. And if you don't want to put a load in it, just sheet it over. Onllwyn, 1987. Paul J.
  3. No, the door/window configuration is wrong. Clive Mortimore beat me to it. But to just add a bit more to Clives statement, there were some Cl120 TS on the WR, but they had the same window/door configuration as the buffet, but without the blanked off windows of the buffet. Paul J.
  4. The two different types of metal stipes, denote which works built the loco. The single strip as mentioned in the original post denotes a Brush built loco, two separate strips denotes a Crewe built loco. Of course there has to be an exception to this rule, and this is that 47401-20 have two stripes, despite being built by Brush. Paul J.
  5. I have a photo in my collection of a 123 set at Bristol TM around 1968, which is made up of a 4/3 car set, with a DMBS and a TS added to it. What is interesting is the DMBS is in all over Green and the TS is in Blue. It is definatively a Cl 123 as you can make out the B4 bogies. The 3rd vehicle is another DMBS, cab adjacent to the TS, in Blue/Grey and what looks like a TC in Blue/Grey as the 4th vehicle. At this point the rest of the train is hidden around the curve, but there will be at least one more driving vehicle present. I can't post the photo on here because I don't know whose copyright it is. I possibly found it on Facebook, but I can assure you that at least one Cl 123, TS, was in all over Blue. Paul J.
  6. Not very often, but I did do it a couple of times to get a loco back to Kings Cross for a late evening working after being used on an early evening KX-Peterbourough or Grantham turn. Paul J.
  7. Very nice bit of weathering there. A real 05 in action, complete with grotty gear change crunch. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xIwzKZDTZPA?rel=0"frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> Paul J. Edited to try and get video to work!
  8. D2578 definitely had a non standard font for the numbers, possibly even hand painted on, which is what we did when we restored the prototype. D2578 original numbers on RH cab side. This side had carried at least 2 sets of numbers, indicating a repaint at some time. On the LH cab side. Only one set of numbers on this side. We suspected this side had been damaged at some time, there were signs of accident damage else where on the running plate, and replaced. Note the numbers had a black line around them. Our restoration efforts. We did take measurements of the original numbers so that we could replicate them, so if any transfer manufacturer wanted to replicate them, we have measurements available. Paul J.
  9. Hello David, you are right to be concerned about your location identification on photo C7448 , 56111 coal 19th April 86, it is actually just south of Warrington Bank Quay station. The start of Arpley Yard can be seen behind the front of the 56. More nice photos, and although I have now said this on numerous occasions, thank you very much for sharing them with us! Paul J.
  10. Oh, and I forgot to mention that the buffers and couplings are being offered for sale as seperate items/spares. £10 a packet for 8 sprung buffers in red or black, and for a pack of 8 screw couplings. Good value for money I think and definately on my shopping list! Paul J.
  11. Into my e-mail in tray has arrived an announcement of two new 24's from SLW. 5099 Pre-TOPS (before May 1974) Allocated to 65A Glasgow Eastfield and 24009 TOPS numbering (post June 1975) Allocated to Edinburgh Haymarket Both have the "Glasgow" blanked off nose doors with centre headcode discs. Paul J.
  12. There where three ground frames at Hereford. One controlled access into the bay sidings inadjacent to Platform 4, one into the yard and the other access into the two Down Refuges. They all controlled signals in addition to points, and in the case of Brecon Gurve ground frame, a trailing crossover between the up and down lines. Certain moves where signalled, whilst others required handsignals. The Yard and Down Refuge round frames also controlled lights that could signal drivers to move where sighting due to track curvature meant it was impossible to see handsignals from the ground frame. The plans below show the relevent ground frames and signals and points controlled from each. I know the Yard ground frame was unlocked by a key (Annets key I think) released from Hereford box, and I think the other two where the same, but I never operated them, so I'm not 100% sure. The shunting light on the Up line, for Brecon Curve ground frame, Hereford. (Edited to add photo). Paul J.
  13. There was one put in on the down at Droitwich for trains coming from Worcester at the Worcester end of the platform. At the same time an extra stop signal was put in between Worcester Tunnel Jcn and Droitwich that allowed a train to enter the section from Worcester when the signalman had seen the tail lamp of a train arriving in the Down Platform at Droitwich in the camera. This saved ahell of a lot of time as it meant trains didn't have to wait at Tunnel Jcn for trains to pass Droitwich SB and the signalman see the tail lamp. Paul J. Edited to clarify part of the post.
  14. The lights in Gasworks Tunnel where very useful for traincrew when shunt releasing, shunting stock in and out of platforms, as they where about a coach length apart. The shunter would tell you how many coaches you had on at the start of the move, and as you went into the tunnel you would count the number of lights for the number of coaches and add one for the loco. By the time the train stopped you where well clear of the signal for setting back. They where very useful, and in diesel days there was very little chance of slipping back into the station. Paul J.
  15. Yes it was 24147, which gained the 25 style headcode boxes, minus the horn cowels, when it was still in green and had the corridor doors, as early as 1968. Paul J.
  16. Here's the real thing at carstairs at the end of its life, 11th April 1977. Paul J.
  17. Back in the days of the photo Top and Tail was the exception and required special authority to do, unlike todays railway. I remember we had to get special dispensation to run all the train T&T at the 1991 Hereford Rail Festival. Paul J.
  18. Me thinks it is Southport Railway Museum (Steamport), if comparison to my photo below is anything to go on. Paul J.
  19. Another nice set of ECML photos David. thank you for sharing. Certainly have captured a "mixed freight" in shot J3646. I didn't realise those type of grain wagons traversed the southern end of the ECML?. I'm going to have a stab at identifying the 47/4 in shot C1701 as 47457? as it that is how the numbers read to my eyes.It was also one of the few in the high 474xx number range to retain its boiler, as seen by the fact it still carries a steam heat bag. Paul J.
  20. It might be to do with the bridge constuction and setting the sleeper spacing, as they look a lot closer spaced than the track to the left of it. A quick comparison count of the sleepers on the two tracks does seem to support this. I've never seen them on any other bridge though. Paul J.
  21. There used to be at least one diagram that involver a pair of Cambridge DMU's, which would be allocated to Norwich, working into KX. 37's and 31's used to work the sand trains down to KX goods, and where allocated to March at least, and possibly Stratford, so a failure could well have seen one of those substituted. When I worked there, there where quite a few foreign depot locos allocated to work into KX, some from places you wouldn't have expected. here are the main line allocation sheets for FP in January 1981. The thing to note is in the first column, which shows the loco depot diagram number, which will give you the locos originating depot. As with most things railway, this sheet was a guide only, and not always followed to the letter. Mainline Mon-Fri. Mainline Sat. Mainline Sun. Paul J.
  22. I once climbed up into a 25 to work on, and looking at the cab saw it the number it was carrying at that moment. Under the paint you could make out a previous different number, and under that another pre-Tops number, that on checking later, was from a different loco to the other two numbers. It got me to wondering which cab, on any loco, carried the most different loco numbers?
  23. I do have another photo of No1 end of D10, but copyright prevents me form showing it, that does show the same arrangement of the flashes. If the date of the photo in the link below is correct, then D5 was GSYP in May 1970. https://flic.kr/p/kyU6dH Paul J.
  24. Not always. D6 was different, see photo in link below. https://flic.kr/p/jaVHyT Still carried it in the same position when in GFYE. See below. https://flic.kr/p/HAH8KQ It is posible D10 is out of the equation as the flashes changed position in 1970, if the date on the photo below is to be believed. http://rcts.zenfolio.com/diesel/br/locomotives/44/hA100D125#ha100ca33 I,ve got it down to 3 possibilities, D5, D7 and D8, with D10 being possible if the date on the last photo is incorrect. Paul J.
  25. I agree. Lots of scratchbuilding potential for some of those components. Paul J.
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