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A Murphy

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  1. Dave, really sorry to hear about your tribulations with this. As you are aware I am going to do an N gauge version of the J10. Looking at my trusty RCTS 5, the writer refers to different types of cab. The first seems fairly obviously on the Parker engines, GC 9D with smaller cabs, shorter roof, no vertical handrail at the rear. When we come to the section on Pollitt and Robinson engines, the author seems to imply that there are small and large cabs, with different cut-outs to match different size tenders. By later LNER days, most members of the class seem to have had larger, Robinson style cabs. However, no 134, which masqueraded as a J11 for several years when converted back to J10 in Dec 1924, was fitted with "a Pollitt cab as on the Beyer Peacock locomotives." There seem to be at least 4 different kinds of cab in play here. On most of the engines illustrated in RCTS 5 and Locos illustrated 156, the small rear splasher seems to butt onto a plate or beading mounted on the flat of the spectacle plate.

     

    Might the drawing you prepared be slightly adrift because of these differences? I am really struggling to see what they are, but that's probably just my incompetence. The rear splashers on a J10 look really tiny, but not having a decent side on shot, it's difficult to see if there are differences in the way the "large" or "small" cab lines up in relation to the frames. In the drawing you sent me, it seems possible that the cab front may be a tiny (really tiny) bit too far back? Could that be enough to throw your clearances out?? I wish I could help more.

     

    Best wishes,

     

    Alastair

  2. Simon,

     

    I understood for a fee - I'm used to buying ship plans from the National Maritime Museum and they don't come cheap. MOSI is a (relatively) new discovery for me and after your post I went for a good rummage. I couldn't find a tender for the J10 in the Beyer Peacock archive, but will ask how to search when I call them. Also very intertested in the J11. I love this aspect of RMWeb, helpful knowledgable people. Thank you both,

     

    Alastair

  3. Dave,

     

    I too went looking for a drawing of the J10 and finding nothing doing from the usual places decided to try and do my own using dimensions etc from RCTS 5, Locomotives illustrated 156 and scaling from any and all other photos I could get my hands on. My problems started with the positioning of the front axle (of course wheel base and spacing is available from published dimensions) and went from there! I am temporarily stopped, but will resume this project nearer Christmas. I am wondering if a thorough rummage in the MOSI collection:

     

    http://www.mosi.org....ons-online.aspx

     

    might turn up something? The J10 (and J11) are great looking engines with a very long life span. Good luck with yours and I can't wait to see the results,

     

    best wishes

     

    Alastair

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