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What was the 70' on a Northbound 'liner dragging the whole load and two dead 86's out of Rugby at 4.30pm towards Nuneaton yesterday?? Anyone any ideas? Looked quite impressive..........cheers. Guy

Is this one of the "LMS" set from the SVR (I note the '3' designation on one door)? I travelled in the set earlier in the week and was reading the info posted inside each coach end, which was quite informative. I noted that they only specifically mentioned the Brake second as having been fitted with ETH for early WCML electric services, but didn't know what to look for in relation to fittings and stuff (where the MK1's have jumper cable points I couldn't see anything in a similair position) What type of coach is it?

Just managed to dig out some haulage notes from 1985 if they are any use?? 06/08/85 33050 1V22 08.30 Brighton - Cardiff 18938, 18956, 13335, 35480, 13342 33003 1O75 12.05 Cardiff - Portsmouth 35120, 18713, 18930, 7650, 18561 33019 1V25 11.10 Portsmouth - Bristol 18744, 18611, 7075, 18709, 84347 33033 1O81 14.10 Bristol - Portsmouth same stock as above 33017 1V27 13.10 Portsmouth - Bristol 18929, 7067, 35051, 18977, 18295 33108 1O85 16.10 Bristol - Brighton same stock as above. 12/09/85 33010 1O67 08.05 Cardiff - Portsmouth 18283, 18580, 18592, 34575, 7220 33032 2V58 06.56 Portsmouth - Bristol 18960, 35195, 18718, 35201, 7921 33031 1O69 10.10 Bristol - Portsmouth stock as above 33118 1V22 08.50 Brighton - Cardiff 34521, 18796, 7230, 18787, 18962 33038 1O79 12.05 Cardiff - Portsmouth 18929, 7067, 35051, 18977, 18295 33015 1V25 11.10 Portsmouth - Cardiff 18964, 34525, 7652, 35185, 18789 33016 1O81 14.05 Bristol - Portsmouth same stock as above 33034 1V27 13.10 Portsmouth - Bristol same stock as 2V58 above 33118 1O85 16.10 Bristol - Brighton same stock as 1V27 33039 2O60 16.18 Bristol - Portsmouth 5039, 35322, 7669, 35180, 18970 33044 1V30 15.10 Portsmouth - Weston SM 18938, 13328, 7216, 17068, 18624 33031 1O87 16.11 Cardiff - Portsmouth same stock as 1O67 above 33038 1V34 17.10 Portsmouth - Bristol same stock as 1O81 above. A fairly extensive day of Crompton haulage! Hopfully with some info you can use. There's more from 24/9/85 if you want it! Regards Guy

Just viewed this.......the second coach looks like either M24176M or M26176M Is it a Dia 1851 corridor brake third (looking at the hooded window vents)? (RealPlayer embedded is clearer than the standalone player) Guy

A very very interesting link, if quite sad. Economics, well that was the argument at the time, without the addition of foresight. Fair enough. But they did get it wrong (Great Central? Criminal that was) And an AWESOME comb-over. Nuff said, without being irreverant. I love railways as much as the next man (or lady)

Last link is a cracker......off topic the Cambian bits are nice.........24 + maroon mk1 / blue+grey/ + Thompson composite. Lovely.........just 2 monthes after i was born Great thread this. Love the last YT vid link

I've got a locally produced publication which I picked up in the mid-80's in Hayfield, from a local newsagents, which covers the last few years of the route. Main Line Across The Pennines (Woodhead in the shadows) by CM Corroy and AR Kaye (Lowlander Publications, Chatsworth Road, Chesterfield) It was penned by the photographer of the above derailment. There is a great series of 11 photographs, from the initial wagon jumping the points on the Glossop line crossover, through to the devastation that ensued. I can scan it, but not sure about infringement of copyright If the author is on here, and gives permission, then i've no issues with scanning them! 4th wagon became derailed on pointwork (vac fitted MCV mineral wagon loaded with steel swarf from the looks of it, number isn't visible ) followed by the 22nd wagon doing exactly the same. No idea what this was although the consist mainly looks like MCV's and CovHops. Loco's were 76028 and 76029, date 10/3/81. 8E46 7.30 Warrington-Tinsley freight. Great little book. Not bad for £1.65. Guy