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1890. "O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' " Tommy, go away " ; But it's " Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play...."

Of course the other elephant in the room is manning, or specifically a distinct lack of. We could initiate a massive re-equipment and rebuilding programme but the big question would be just how would we man the ships? Those same successive governments which have underfunded and mismanaged the armed forces have also made all three services progressively more unattractive as career options for potential recruits. Poor equipment, lack of equipment in some cases, more regular deployments with an operational tempo far greater than anything ever seen during previous conflicts, continual watering down of T&C's and perks and not forgetting the icing on the cake: MOD in it's various forms crapping all over their own people should the fancy take them just as easily as they draw breath. Ergo poor morale. About 10 years ago the RN went through another wave of redundancies and some of the lads amongst the RN detachment aboard my ship at the time got their papers whilst we were out in the PG on an operation, basically as soon as we got back to the UK they were out. A few of them had their redundancy dates pencilled in for a week or two before they were eligible for their half pension - no coincidence of course as that saved the MOD a ton of money. All were advised to either go AWOL on return or find a means to go on the sick so as to be able to cross the pension date. None wanted to leave, all were committed to the service and were good fellows and this came totally out of the blue. At the same time the RN were publicly crowing that they had a recruitment and staffing crisis due to a shortage of personnel! One of the reasons I have little time for all the jingoistic guff that surrounds November 11th is just how hypocritical it has all become. People celebrate how much money the various appeals and charities raise, all of which are of course publicly supported and sponsored by politicians of every hue and the royal family, yet very few appreciate that it should in fact be a national scandal of unprecedented proportion that these charities have to exist at all. I find it beyond the pale and profoundly shameful that veterans (particularly disabled veterans) have to rely on any charity for treatment, equipment and care. It merely serves to illustrate that little has changed in the century since the supposed watershed of the 14-18 war that Governments, and the public to a certain degree, still don't care enough about the people who give up so much for others to actually treat them decently.

They both remained in use in Scotland until 1965, neither went South of the border with 123. 1375 was sold to the Bluebell in 1969, whilst 464 was sold by BR directly to the SRPS. 1375 then returned north in 1974 with a Bulleid TO as a part exchange.

An eminently sensible decision I should think, four sisters all built in the same yard. Politically unwinnable regardless of what they chose to do; the same mouthpieces bemoaning CMAL from ordering abroad would be the same mouthpieces giving them a kicking for giving it to Fergusons what with all that's gone on. I'm still not entirely convinced with the Voith propulsion package; twin Voiths down the back and conventional thrusters for'd. It'll require an entirely different driving style compared to conventional ships and to old farts like me it's akin to trying to rub your belly and your head at the same time. Voiths give you manoeuvrability but not necessarily the same kick of power you'd get with the alternatives. I'd have thought the more sensible evolution would have been diesel electric with azipods aft and thruster for'd.

The usual 2 cylinder Lister. This does at least have an electric start in addition to the crank handle!

2022, nearly 2023 and still messing around in boats, or at least three of my ABs are. This aboard one of four ships I currently regularly relieve between, two of which are still old enough to have open lifeboats. If nothing else they are at least reasonably foolproof, in stark comparison to the more modern versions.

That notion seemingly went adrift as far back as post number 2 of this thread.

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The GTR did not have a fatal outcome.

Just wondering if Rapido had any samples or suchlike of this model at Warley?

It's twenty years since H&W last built a ship, and even those final two certainly weren't their finest hour; and that was basically an assembly job with all the hard work done abroad.

If only SK had instead used the phrase "and when your gender fluid, non binary life partner provides your equal share of the vegan surprise..." there'd be no such controversy.

Quite. The first question that entered my head on reading the article was specifically where are these 50 catamarans intended to operate? Without even touching on why it's a crazy idea to send an aluminium catamaran into the Minch in winter, even the small craft replacement proposal doesn't bear scrutiny. Replacing the current landing craft type vessels with Cats strikes me as a solution looking for a problem which isn't there and in turn only creating more problems. The landing craft type vessels are all designed to operate on a slipway with 7 degrees inclination which is the network standard; foot passengers and vehicles alike use the slipways to embark/disembark and because the vessel is basically aground on the slip no fancy mooring arrangements or piers are required. It also means those vessels are interchangeable network wide and no special vessel-specific berthing facilities are required. On some routes when the vessels aren't in service if no handy pier is available they lie at a mooring buoy and the crews access them via a RIB. These vessels are also all Voith Schneider equipped and so highly manoeuvrable. Replacing them with Cats will require piers to be built in every location, plus requiring a linkspan to handle the ramp for vehicles, so increasing the cost and complexity of the operation enormously in exchange for less flexibility. Cats also really don't like slow speed manoeuvring in poor weather which is where a monohull with Voiths (for example) will always win the day. There are quite a few other points in that article which are factually incorrect, but then an agenda is being pushed. Perhaps the headline should read: "A couple of blokes who want to design and build catmarans say they're amazing and want you to give them a LOT of taxpayers money"?

I have it in my head that the second time was somewhere off the UK and possibly the NE coast. I could be entirely incorrect however. Certainly in their latter years those ships didn't stray far from Europe.

She was a 60s built ship and this was over 40 years ago - a different world really.

After the "Mallard" refurbishment circa 2004, Mk4 rakes had three FO's. The FO nearest the restaurant had about 50% of it's seating set aside for those taking meals, suitably adorned with tablecloths etc. In that sense it still operated as per the seating in the restaurant in that there were sittings and you left your normal seat and went to the dining area for a meal. Once National Express et al took over and the catering offering went from being a separate cost to being free, the quality and range of food on offer went sharply downhill and that's when they transitioned to at-seat catering - I won't call it at sea dining because it's anything but.

Regarding turning gear incidents, some years back there was quite an impressive one on a BP 'Border' tanker. At some point they'd started the engine (6 cylinder Doxford) with the turning gear in followed by a big bang; the crankshaft had split. Metalock was suggested as a solution but scoffed at by some, anyway they were invited down and those very nice people did an excellent repair to the crankshaft. Sea trials etc followed with no issues, well done all. About a year or two later the same ship was drifting awaiting orders. As is usually the case, every so often they had to flash up and reposition depending on the rate and direction of drift from the port, although whilst FWE was rung down after the completion of every repositioning the E/R was effectively on continuous standby - the turning gear was therefore not to be engaged on FWE. The 2/E was on watch with his Junior (as was usual then) and after the vessel had changed position FWE was rung down, the 2/E settled down to a peaceful spell pottering about pending another movement whilst his junior went off to do whatever they do, pumping bilges etc. Some time later the telegraph rings again - SBE. The second returns to the sticks, acknowledges stand by and shortly after slow ahead is rung down. The second does his thing and then BANG. After no doubt a change of trousers, much head scratching and some pointed questions, it transpires that after FWE had been rung the Junior went and dropped the turning gear in as was normal practice, even though he had not been told to do so and he knew what the plan had been e.g continuous standby - he'd simply done it autopilot. The C/E was summoned to the E/R as were the rest of the engineers via the calling bell, crankcase doors opened and they peered inside - yes, the crankshaft had split again. Except that this time it had fractured in a different place as the Metalock repair had held!

The seating area was 2+1 around tables which lined up with the windows. Two per row on the upper/galley side (as seen in your pic) and one on the other side. At that time there were "sittings" for meals and that was when tables were made up.

The train itself terminated at Waverley, but as I remember there were through carriages to Aberdeen in LNER days. KIngs Cross did indeed have lower quadrant signals, see here: https://tinyurl.com/2y8tyb7y

The practical formation efficiencies that could be made were already made in the mid 90s, e.g. there subsequently only being two main trains: Highland/Lowland sleeper. Prior to that Inverness/Aberdeen/Edinburgh/Glasgow were separate trains, admittedly with Motorail stock attached. The Glasgow sleeper also had a shunt at Carlisle where it used to drop off sleeping coaches, as the Night Riviera did/does(?) at Plymouth. As an example, until circa 1996 the "Royal Highlander" (the Inverness sleeper) was regularly 15 vehicles all on it's own: 11 passenger coaches and 4 GUV. Made a fine noise climbing to Culloden all the same. The Highland sleeper is already reasonably flexible with regards to demand with Fort William provision increased in the peak summer months at the expense of Aberdeen and Inverness.

After the train leaves Edinburgh and Hannay is walking along the corridor, he looks out the droplight and gazes forward. The film then cuts to the single track WHL with a K2 on the front! It later cuts back to the Forth Bridge of course.

Was very surprised to be sent this link earlier: https://ellermanlines.com/ JRE reborn it would seem? I believe the rights to what was left of the Ellerman trade/name etc went to Hamburg Sud nearly 20 years ago, so I'm curious as to how this fits in. It's notable that the logo is very similar to the final Ellerman lines logo. When with the Andrew Weir Empire I did sail in CITY OF MANCHESTER and CITY OF LONDON (box boats) which both had Ellerman funnels at least - the former also had a 3 cylinder Doxford!

That one is an ex Bank Line "Fish" class, not sure which though. One of this class - Global Mariner ex Ruddbank - was the nearest thing the UK ever came to a national training ship in a similar vein to the US marine schools. She was lost in 2000 on the Orinoco after a collision.

A pity the majority of the crowds seem more interested in capturing the procession on their mobile phones more than anything else.

See attached screenshot. I find it bizarre that eBay has decided to take a stand against these armbands when it otherwise permits all manner of supposedly commemorative drivel/tat/rubbish to be advertised on the website. There are many hundreds if not thousands of mugs, plates, towels etc and all manner of other nonsense being advertised that supposedly "commemorate" her death and which are blatant profiteering, yet seemingly that is somehow more acceptable. Perhaps because the aforementioned tat hasn't had a social media reaction it's therefore ok?