Jol Wilkinson Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 London Road Models have introduced a kit for the LNWR D20 Small Cattle Wagon. Over 500 of these cattle wagons were built, between 1876 and 1882. 324 were still in use in 1902, the last being scrapped in 1918. The kit has cast white metal body with a pre-formed plastic roof. The under frame is etched in nickel silver, incorporating a compensation system . The kit is priced at £25.00. Previously LRM had introduced a Midland Railway D838 Coal Tar/Creosote Tank wagon, but it hadn't been mentioned on RMweb. Introduced in 1893, several lasted into BR days. At least one was used as a diesel loco refuelling tank, equipped with what looked like a petrol station pump hose and nozzle.The kit has a turned tube tank with half etched rivetted overlays, etched supports, w-irons and brake gear, white metal castings for the tank ends,and underframe. Priced at £30:00, the kit is available from the usual email address, londonroadmodels@btinternet.com. London Road Models have also now taken over production of the BIWO (Because I Want One) range of LNWR locomotives, previously marketed by John Redrup on behalf of Nick Easton. These are the Webb designed Bill Bailey 4-6-0, Class A three cylinder compound 0-8-0, Class B/E four cylinder compound 0-8-0 and the one off, three cylinder compound 2-2-4-0 Tank loco. The loco body etches were designed by Nick Easton, while the appropriate tenders and all fittings are from the LRM range. Several other new wagon kits are also under development for introduction later this year. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 On 02/06/2023 at 14:59, Jol Wilkinson said: Previously LRM had introduced a Midland Railway D838 Coal Tar/Creosote Tank wagon, but it hadn't been mentioned on RMweb. Introduced in 1893, several lasted into BR days. At least one was used as a diesel loco refuelling tank, equipped with what looked like a petrol station pump hose and nozzle.The kit has a turned tube tank with half etched rivetted overlays, etched supports, w-irons and brake gear, white metal castings for the tank ends,and underframe. Priced at £30:00, the kit is available from the usual email address, londonroadmodels@btinternet.com. More than simply surviving into BR days but suitable for reasonably modern image layouts Survivors in here https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lmstank include DM45 (including petrol station pump hose), 53 in a drain cleaning train and no. 3 - although they vary in brake rigging, running gear etc. Discussion aeons ago in the HMRS Journal failed to sort out what was original and what much later rebuilding. There are others in Essery's MR wagon book. Paul 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2023 Hello Jol Using ths thread as you know them. I am trying to contact LRM, but not heard yet. Trying to find out if it is an email issue my end, or if LRM have been busy. John offered some instructions, but I decided the description was good enough. More concerned if email issues than being busy. Nothing in any spams found. Thanks Martin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Ditto no response to a email re a B16 kit. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2023 May be holidays but want to be sure all OK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 I believe John has been away attending a family wedding. I think he should be back in a day or two. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) A customer has sent a couple of photos of the LNWR D20 Small cattle Wagon. They went to John Redrup of LRM but I was copied in on the email. These are courtesy of John Lingwood. Edited July 25, 2023 by Jol Wilkinson Amended text 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted July 26, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2023 18 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said: I believe John has been away attending a family wedding. I think he should be back in a day or two. I did send a picture of a built tender from them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted July 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2023 oops ordered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2023 And a book included from Jol 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2023 Oh and John liked my 2P 4-4-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 6, 2023 2P 0-4-4T Found an error in instructions. Says 16 spoke driving wheels, could not find any, they are 17 spoke in every picture i could count them on. Still need to work out gearbox and motor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Martin Pictures shows two types I used, Highlevel Slimline (motor in boiler), and Slimline with a D3 extension ( motor in tank area). Hope it helps. Daryl 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, nightowl said: Martin Pictures shows two types I used, Highlevel Slimline (motor in boiler), and Slimline with a D3 extension ( motor in tank area). Hope it helps. Daryl Mine has a resin boiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Martin A Highlevel MicroMiser (horizontal) might work. Class 1833 had 16 spoke drivers. Dubs had 9 spoke bogies, and Neilson 10 spoke. Class 2228 had 16 spoke drivers and 10 spoke, built by Dubs and Derby. Later after service bogie wheels could be mixed per engine. Reference from Midland Engines No.1. Daryl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2023 This is the LMS one 41900 to 41909. Not found a sensible price MR 1P yet. From a clear side photo of the one I want to model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2023 This picture from flickr is the state I want to model geoff7918 41900 at Ashchurch Stanier 0-4-4T Push/pull fitted 41900 is resting at Ashchurch on 4th July 1959. The station looks just as a country station should, a old barrow with Ashchurch (WR) on it, a gas lamp on a fine fluted colunm, the driver of 41900 in the shade on a bench.The station is at right angles to the main Birmingham Bristol line and was the terminus of the train from Tewkesbury, from the other side the trains ran from Ashchurch to Redditch serving part of the Vale of Evesham. P J Shoesmith. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Martin I got this picture off the internet three or four years ago have not a clue where. Shows the later version with the bigger wheels, why it has 17 spoke wheels. Daryl 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2023 Interesting that it shows between spokes rather than inline, I zoomed into another picture and grabbed juat the wheel. (c) rail Online Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub45565 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 The 2P 0-4-4 used bevelled wheels, which is available from Alan Gibson. Bachmann 1P MR bodies are available from Bachmann Spares for £50, which seems reasonable value. EM/P4 chassis kit available from Rumney Models. My London Road 2P is back on the workbench currently, I'll try and remember to post a photo or two here in the not too distant future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Martin The only picture I can find 41908 in its early days. Daryl 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, Jub45565 said: The 2P 0-4-4 used bevelled wheels, which is available from Alan Gibson. Bachmann 1P MR bodies are available from Bachmann Spares for £50, which seems reasonable value. EM/P4 chassis kit available from Rumney Models. My London Road 2P is back on the workbench currently, I'll try and remember to post a photo or two here in the not too distant future. How can you tell if wheels are bevelled? Not yet got my order in to AG. Was hunting for a good value Craftsman kit but not for a month or so due to 2P costs, going to do the predecessor to 41900. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, nightowl said: Martin The only picture I can find 41908 in its early days. Daryl Luckily plenty of 41900 in some books I have, in colour from Lightmoor publishing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, MJI said: How can you tell if wheels are bevelled? Not yet got my order in to AG. Was hunting for a good value Craftsman kit but not for a month or so due to 2P costs, going to do the predecessor to 41900. They slope in rather than being flat. Look at the wheels of a Jubilee and compare them with a Royal Scot. These are the Slaters O Gauge ones. https://slatersplastikard.com/linePage.php?suffix=JPG&code=7881ST# https://slatersplastikard.com/linePage.php?suffix=JPG&code=7881F You can just see the bevel here. More photos if you flick through. https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p1043647855/e221c88cc Jason Edited August 7, 2023 by Steamport Southport 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: They slope in rather than being flat. Look at the wheels of a Jubilee and compare them with a Royal Scot. These are the Slaters O Gauge ones. https://slatersplastikard.com/linePage.php?suffix=JPG&code=7881ST# https://slatersplastikard.com/linePage.php?suffix=JPG&code=7881F You can just see the bevel here. More photos if you flick through. https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p1043647855/e221c88cc Jason Plain 17 spoke in line or bevel 17 spoke between spoke. No exact match. Would epoxy filler work to do the bevel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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