Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[eastwestdivide]

2 hours ago, Market65 said:

And in C3731, of Chatham, with a down passenger train also on the 18th March, 1978, you have captured a great, sweeping view of the hilly nature of the place, which is beautifully replicated in the next two photo’s, C3732, and C3056. 

Those look to be taken from the edge of the "Great Lines", i.e. defensive lines for Chatham Dockyard, developed in the Napoleonic era, and taking advantage of the lie of the land.

[corneliuslundie]

I never realised Kent was so hilly. A great viewpoint.

Jonathan

[melmoth]

It's grim down south

[DaveF]

The first batch today are at Radcliffe on Trent on the Grantham to Nottingham line.

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent  Class 114 to Skegness May 75 C2052

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent 47007 Parkeston Quay to Manchester May 75 C2057

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent 2 Class 25s Nottingham to Skegness 16th Aug 75 C2255

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent Class 31 bulk grain Oct 75 C2519

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent Class 47 going away oil train and station approach road Oct 78 C4202

 

 

David

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DaveF]

Some Talyllyn Railway photos at Tywyn Wharf and Tywyn Pendre from 1969 and 1970.  It was rather different then.

 

 

Tywyn George Sholto 31st August 1969 C060  ion the museum.

 

 

Tywyn Wharf 6 Douglas 31st August 1969 C064

 

 

Tywyn  Wharf 2 Dolgoch 31st August 1969 C066

 

 

Tywyn Wharf 3 Sir Haydn 23rd August 1970 C278

 

 

Tywyn Pendre 3 Sir Haydn 31st August 1969 C075

 

 

Tywyn Pendre 2 Dolgoch 31st August 1969 C076

 

 

David

[keefer]

6 hours ago, DaveF said:

Radcliffe on Trent 2 Class 25s Nottingham to Skegness 16th Aug 75 C2255

 

I'm more used to pics of 2 x 20s on the Skeggy Expresses so 2 x 25 is more interesting - and the lead loco is still in 2-tone green.

[DaveF]

We now travel to France to see some trains at Marclaz on 4th August 1978.  Marclaz is on the western edge of Thonon les Bains on the south side of Lake Geneva (Lac Leman).  This stretch of line runs from Annemasse and Annecy (there is a junction at La Roche sur Foron) to Evian les Bains, it used to run to the Swiss border at St Gingolph where it connected with SBB CFF FFS.

 

Dad, Mum and I along with some friends had taken a gite in Les Gets for a fortnight that summer. Mum, Dad and I had travelled there in my car via Sheerness, Vlissingen, Belgium, eastern France and Switzerland taking nearly a week to get there, taking photos en route.  Our friends drove overnight having used the Dover Calais ferry.  While in Les Gets we met some French friends so when our English friends went home we went to stay with them in their family chalet in Morzine.  In all we were away for about 5 weeks.

 

One day Dad and I went out to take railway photos, Mum came too and parked at a level crossing on a minor road at Marclaz and took the photos.  While we were there we got chatting to the crossing keeper, a young woman from Alsace who invited us to have lunch with her - and wine of course.  We didn't do very much else that day.

 

Marclaz BB25175 Annemasse to Thonon les Bains 4th Aug 78 C3986

 

 

Marclaz X43xx from Evian les Bains 4th Aug 78 C3987

 

 

Marclaz BB 25172 to Evian les Bains 4th Aug 78 C3988

 

 

Marclaz BB 25172 to Evian les Bains 4th Aug 78 C3989

 

 

Marclaz BB 25193 l e to Evian les Bains 4th Aug 78 C3990

 

 

Marclaz BB 25192 13.35 from Evian les Bains to Paris Train 6180 4th Aug 78 C 3991

 

 

Marclaz SNCF BB 25174 freight from Evian les Bains 4th Aug 78 C3992

 

 

David

[DaveF]

Back to England in the 1960s with some photos on the Midland north of Leeds.  The last two photos are meant to show the same loco and train.

 

 

Gargrave Class 101 and 108 Leeds to Skipton May 67 J906

 

 

Gargrave Class 108 and 101 Leeds to ?  May 67  J0907

 

 

Hellifield (south of) Class 101 Skipton to Lancaster April 67 J853

 

 

Horton LMS Class 5 44824 down mineral April 67 J0861

 

 

Horton LMS 8F 48157 with snow plough up pick up goods April 67 J0863

 

 

 

Horton LMS 8F 48157 with snow plough up pick up goods April 67 J0864

 

David

Edited March 10, 2023 by DaveF

[45655]

3 hours ago, DaveF said:

Some Talyllyn Railway photos at Tywyn Wharf and Tywyn Pendre from 1969 and 1970.  It was rather different then.

 

 

 

Tywyn Wharf 3 Sir Haydn 23rd August 1970 C278

 

 

 

David

I think that must be the late David Ratcliffe driving Sir Haydn.  He was one of only two volunteer drivers at the time and also drove on the Bluebell.  On the right is Irish Pete (the basis of no. 7 Tom Rolt).  Not sure what the agricultural implement is doing there, though...

 

Keith

Alton.

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of Radcliffe on Trent on the Grantham to Nottingham line. In C2519, with a class 31, on a bulk grain train, in October, 1975, it can be seen that the letters and numbers in the four character headcode box are looking somewhat askew.

 

That’s a superb selection of photo’s of the Talyllyn Railway, at Tywyn Wharf and Tywyn Pendre, from 1969 and 1970. In the last photo’ at Tywyn Pendre, with number 2, Dolgoch, on the 31st August, 1969, that is a delightful shot of the engine as it works the train into the station.

 

The photo’s from France with some trains at Marclaz, on the 4th August, 1978, are excellent and so atmospheric, showing the French scenery the line traverses perfectly. In C3987, with unit X43xx, on a service from Evian les Bains, it is an excellently composed shot, and the driver seems to have his left hand out of the cabside window.

 

Finally, the photo’s of the Midland north of Leeds are a delightful set, with J0861, at Horton, with an ex-LMS class 5, 44824, on a down mineral train, in April, 1967, the Black 5 is blasting the train through the station. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[MidlandRed]

2 hours ago, DaveF said:

Back to England in the 1960s with some photos on the Midland north of Leeds.  The last two photos are meant to show the same loco and train.

 

 

Gargrave Class 101 and 108 Leeds to Skipton May 67 J906

 

 

Gargrave Class 108 and 101 Leeds to Skipton May 67  J0907

 

 

Hellifield (south of) Class 101 Skipton to Lancaster April 67 J853

 

 

Horton LMS Class 5 44824 down mineral April 67 J0861

 

 

Horton LMS 8F 48157 with snow plough up pick up goods April 67 J0863

 

 

 

Horton LMS 8F 48157 with snow plough up pick up goods April 67 J0864

 

David

Another very evocative set of photos from 1967 - this thread never fails to get the nostalgia going - great photos as well - J0907 shows a class 108 in what appears to have been Doncaster Works’ initial and apparently unique interpretation of blue livery with a large(r) yellow warning panel!! 
 

There’s another thread in prototype questions asking about the use of large locos on pick up goods and the 8F shows a good example - fabulous weathering as well. I think the LMR used these for this purpose quite often (or more likely any loco available) - I saw 8Fs in the Birmingham area in use on such trips in the early 60s, including one in a siding dropping a few wagons at a water softening plant and one at a colliery (Hamstead) collecting a few wagons. 

Edited March 9, 2023 by MidlandRed

[35A]

Some lovely images, again. Thanks, David.

 

I thought that I'd try and identify the class 25s, in C2255, for you - given that you dated the image. Unfortunately, RailGenArchive doesn't have any record of 1Z86. However, I tried www.class25.info, where one of the locomotives is identified as 25 102 - given that that was the former D5252 and one of the later design, where the bodysides had been tidied up by the omission of the bodyside grilles (D5233 onwards, barring the Darlington-built locos, IIRC), that must be the green loco, leading. Amusingly, the record is credit to one David Ford (with a hyperlink to the same image in your Flickr album)!   🤣

[Ray M]

J0907.

Gargrave on a Leeds to Skipton train ?

[DaveF]

2 hours ago, Ray M said:

J0907.

Gargrave on a Leeds to Skipton train ?

 

I can't think of a good excuse for that one.

 

David

[DaveF]

Some photos taken over the years at Carlisle to start with today.

 

 

Carlisle 25288 up ballast to M&C 23rd Oct 84 C6631

 

 

Carlisle 85014 up European Glagow and Edinburgh to Parkeston Quay 6th Aug 85 C7070

 

 

Carlisle 86101 down ex pass 6th Aug 85 C7084

 

 

Carlisle 318250 test run 30th July 86 C7718

 

 

Carlisle Bruff rail road recovery vehicle 1st Sept 87 C9090

 

 

David

 

 

[DaveF]

A few more photos at Norton Bridge now.

 

 

Norton Bridge 87018 down ex pass May 76_J5238

 

 

Norton Bridge 86003 up parcels May 76_J5239

 

 

Norton Bridge Class 85 down ex pass May 76_J5241

 

 

Norton Bridge Class 86  down ex pass May 76_J5242

 

 

Norton Bridge 47345 down coal May 76_J5243

 

 

Norton Bridge 86205 down ex pass May 76_J5248

 

 

David

[mezzoman253]

Spent many an evening at Norton Bridge whilst training at BT Stone. Happy days.

 

Rob

[DaveF]

Some black and white photos of Dad's now for a change.  They date from around 1947 to 1952, the very early ones suffer from poor film as it was very hard to obtain just after the war and a not brilliant camera - sadly I don't have a note of what Dad used for many of his early black and white photos.

 

I have assigned each of them a sRGB profile so they should look black and white not red!

 

I lived in and around Nottingham until I was 16 and after that visited until the early 1980s.  Having looked at Google Earth I think I would find it very difficult to find most of these locations now.

 

 

Bulwell viaduct LNER O7 WD up goods 1947 JVol1174

 

 

Bulwell Viaduct GCR 04 down goods 1947 JVol1184

 

 

Bulwell Common Junction LNER K3 1975 Annesley to Bulwell    Dido 1947 JVol1176

 

 

Bullwell GC J5 65486 up ballast train wrong line c1952 JVol3035

 

 

Bagthorpe Junction O1 63872 up goods Jan 54 JVol7001

 

 

David

[corneliuslundie]

Very nice.

Jonathan

[DaveF]

Finally for today some more photos from Pilmoor in 1967 and 1968.

 

 

Pilmoor Class 55 D9003 Meld Newcastle to Kings X Feb 67 J773

 

 

Pilmoor Class 46 D183 Liverpool to Newcastle April 67 J849

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1516 London to Perth Motorail July 67 J965

 

 

Pilmoor Class 20 working in up direction on down fast removing damaged cement wagon August 1967 J1060  after the cement wagons derailed and DP2 hit them.

 

 

Pilmoor Class 40s D273 and 240 up goods April 68 J1248

 

 

David

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of Carlisle, and the last photo’ of Bruff rail road recovery vehicle , on the 1st September, 1987, is an excellent side shot of a vehicle which is not often photographed.

 

The photo’s of Norton Bridge, from May, 1976, are a excellent selection, and in J5241, with an unidentified class 85, on a down express passenger train, is a superb view of an 85 in service complete with the cast double arrows on the bodyside. In J5243, of 47345, on a down coal train, that’s an excellent three quarter portrait shot of the locomotive, and the distinctive finish of the cab windows can be clearly seen.

 

That’s a delightful set of black and white photo’s of Bulwell and Bagthorpe, on the GC. Firstly, they are appearing correctly in black and white, so assigning them all an sRGB profile is working perfectly. 
In JVol1176, at Bulwell Common Junction, with LNER, K3, 1975, on an Annesley to Bulwell Dido working for workmen, in 1947, you can see a fairly rare sight of a K3 working tender first.

 

The photo’s of Pilmoor, from 1967 and 1968 are a superb set, with J1060, of an unidentified class 20, working in the up direction, on the down fast line, removing a damaged cement wagon, in August, 1967, after the derailment and collision which involved DP2, and lead to it’s withdrawal, being of historical interest. Thank you for posting it. 
The last photo’ of two class 40’s, D273 and 240, in green and blue liveries respectively, on an up goods train in April, 1968, is a sight not too often seen of a train double headed by two 40’s. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[andytrains]

On 09/03/2023 at 17:17, DaveF said:

Back to England in the 1960s with some photos on the Midland north of Leeds.  The last two photos are meant to show the same loco and train.

 

 

Gargrave Class 101 and 108 Leeds to Skipton May 67 J906

 

 

Gargrave Class 108 and 101 Leeds to ?  May 67  J0907

 

 

Hellifield (south of) Class 101 Skipton to Lancaster April 67 J853

 

 

Horton LMS Class 5 44824 down mineral April 67 J0861

 

 

Horton LMS 8F 48157 with snow plough up pick up goods April 67 J0863

 

 

 

Horton LMS 8F 48157 with snow plough up pick up goods April 67 J0864

 

David

What is the whiteish patch on the  smokebox of the 8F?

[andytrains]

4 hours ago, DaveF said:

Some black and white photos of Dad's now for a change.  They date from around 1947 to 1952, the very early ones suffer from poor film as it was very hard to obtain just after the war and a not brilliant camera - sadly I don't have a note of what Dad used for many of his early black and white photos.

 

I have assigned each of them a sRGB profile so they should look black and white not red!

 

I lived in and around Nottingham until I was 16 and after that visited until the early 1980s.  Having looked at Google Earth I think I would find it very difficult to find most of these locations now.

 

 

Bulwell viaduct LNER O7 WD up goods 1947 JVol1174

 

 

Bulwell Viaduct GCR 04 down goods 1947 JVol1184

 

 

Bulwell Common Junction LNER K3 1975 Annesley to Bulwell    Dido 1947 JVol1176

 

 

Bullwell GC J5 65486 up ballast train wrong line c1952 JVol3035

 

 

Bagthorpe Junction O1 63872 up goods Jan 54 JVol7001

 

 

David

You can imagine the inside of those houses were probably as cold as outside apart from the living room, (where the fire was). No insulation in the rooves. 

Edited March 10, 2023 by andytrains

[33C]

1 hour ago, andytrains said:

What is the whiteish patch on the  smokebox of the 8F?

Burnt paint due to excess air being drawn into the smokebox through a badly distorted door seal or a build up of ash.

[papagolfjuliet]

On 08/03/2023 at 20:22, eastwestdivide said:

Those look to be taken from the edge of the "Great Lines", i.e. defensive lines for Chatham Dockyard, developed in the Napoleonic era, and taking advantage of the lie of the land.

 

Chatham and Rochester are also riddled with tunnels linking the forts, as we discovered when we lived in Rochester and were digging in our back garden in search of a leaky drain and discovered a tunnel from Fort Pitt to Fort Clarence running right next to the foundations; a tunnel which because of its sensitive nature at the time the property was built did not appear on the deeds. We sold up pdq, I can tell you.