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#101 25901

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 20:58

Does anyone have a list of the ones left still in service as I guess two may have been scrapped as they are now two spare Beilhack blades at Holgate Depot





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Posted 17 May 2018 - 21:25

According to Colin Marsden 2017 rail guide
965576, 77 & 966098, 99 Doncaster
965578, 79 Carlisle
965580, 81 Wigan
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 17:38

Evening,

 

I had a nice drive to Widnes today to pick up two of these ZZA wagons and also to see the new shop and location as I was used to the one in Liverpool. I really like the wagons and am glad that finally I can run something with my DRS 37 in pairs. They are great qwirky things to be honest, they have lots of weight in them to hold them to the track while being pushed and pulled and you only need two to make a prototypical rake, 2 loco's and 2 ZZA ploughs and that's it.

 

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 19:20

Evening,

 

I had a nice drive to Widnes today to pick up two of these ZZA wagons and also to see the new shop and location as I was used to the one in Liverpool.

 

 

 

dont forget to pay the toll on the new bridge if you came that way!!



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Posted 19 May 2018 - 16:37

dont forget to pay the toll on the new bridge if you came that way!!

 

I went up the M6 to J21a then m62 to J6 and down the Knowsley expressway A5300, over the roundabout and it's 800 yards from there and on the way back I had a quick visit to Ikea on the M62, It's the long way round but I'm not paying the toll and also the sat-nav hasn't been up-dated to show the new road layouts.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:32

A general question here.  The Railtrack versions have solar panels fitted, while the Network Rail versions have these removed.  Does anyone know when the solar panels were removed by Network Rail and how quickly these were repainted into Network Rail livery after the transfer of Railtrack to Network Rail? 

 

I've noticed that some wagons, such as the blue and grey MRA side tipping ballast wagons seemed to receive Network Rail logos fairly early (2003-2006), whereas the JJA Autoballasters didn't seem to get any Network Rail branding until at least 2009.  As this is the period that I'm modelling, I could probably get away with either livery, but am interested to know which would be most likely.



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Posted 20 May 2018 - 12:19

No solar panels here and all very shiny, I would guess they lost the branding very quickly when they had there yearly health check, remember seeing one without any branding

 

https://www.flickr.c...N00/11344337566 (note, not all are fitted with lights)


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 13:40

Robin,

 

I note that photograph was taken in 2011 (which is more modern than the time period that I'm interested in) and looking at the location of sightings on the Ontrack plant website, it seems that all of these ploughs were spotted at Kilmarnock in the autumn of 2011.  I also read on another website (http://www.scot-rail...ge/Snow Ploughs) that Network Rail's fleet of Beilhack ploughs were overhauled at Brodie Rail, Kilmarnock in 2011 (which I'm assuming is where that photograph was taken).   What I'm not clear on is whether that was when the solar panels were removed and the Network Rail logos were freshly applied at that date.

 

There are a couple of photographs on the Ontrack plant website that are dated 2009, which looks as though they still have the solar panels, but I can't see from the angle of the shot whether they have Railtrack or Network Rail Branding.

 

I think I can conclude that the Network Rail versions as modelled by Hattons are definitely correct for the post-2011 period and the Railtrack versions are obviously correct for the early years of the 21st Century - it's just the period from the formation of Network Rail through to 2011 period that I'm less sure of.



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Posted 20 May 2018 - 15:10

https://andrewstrans...ghs/i-3rBbGQ8/A


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 10:36

 

That's a nice clear photograph showing that the ploughs still had the Railtrack fitted solar panels in 2010, which means I should be buying the Railtrack version and de-branding it rather than buying a Network Rail version.  It looks as though the Network Rail logos were first applied along with the removal of the solar panels during their visit to Kilmarnock in 2011, so the Network Rail versions are only suitable for the post-2011 time period.  The photograph of freshly painted ploughs at Kilmarnock in 2011 effectively confirms the date of removal of the solar panels and application of Network Rail logos.

 

It should be fairly easy to simply spray a weathered black over the top to remove the Railtrack branding, although there are two photographs of 965576 on the Ontrack plant website from 2008 and 2010 and another on Martyn Read's Smugmug site, all of which show that plough with some form of hybrid branding.  The Railtrack name has been removed and Network Rail stencilled in place, but the plough retains "the heart of the railway" branding.  It looks as though that is what I need to try and recreate.

 

https://ukrailwaypic...lough/i-6KfDxKQ

http://www.ontrackpl.../photo/965576-1

http://www.ontrackpl.../photo/965576-4

 

I just need to find some more photographs, but at least I know which pair to buy now.



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 16:43

Cracking models....

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Fitted lights to one of them already, took about 30 mins to do
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See my workbench thread
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Posted 25 May 2018 - 07:02

Just got one of my pair today. Agree with others. Excellent model. I did not keep to strict pairs but mixed between an NSE and a Shark mouth (40 and 45 chassis), though from an overlapping time frame.

 

The plow is solid and has some weight. Layout test tonight.

 

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Posted 25 May 2018 - 21:53

Hattons plow with Hattons P.

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Now with a class 33:

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Posted 25 May 2018 - 22:03

Hi All,

I phoned on Monday and had a well packed box arrive Wednesday with the Carlisle based pair in Network Rail livery. Superb model, well built and good weight to them. I was impressed with my Warwells but these are even better and nice to have a more unusual model produced.

Having seen the samples at Glasgow I knew they would be good and with the future RHTT and now 66’s Hattons look set to get even more of my money.

Cheers
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Posted 25 May 2018 - 23:25

My snowploughs arrived too and would also like to say what absolutely superb models they are.


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