Hornby 2011 Announcements

[Andy Y]

Hornby announce Brighton Belle, B1, Tornado, Gresley Suburbans and Full Brake, Hawksworth Firsts, 20T Brake Van, GW Horse Box, Trout and 27T tippler.

 

Brighton Belle Pullman

 

 

 

Consists of:

2 x Pullman Driving Motor Brake Third –PulDMBT

2 x Pullman Trailer First with Kitchen – PulTFK

1 x Pullman Trailer Third - PulTTL

 

The DMBTs will be realeased as a twin car pack and the TFK and TTL available as individual items

 

 

LNER/BR Thompson B1

 

 

 

LNER “Roedeer”

BR (Late) “Sir Harold Mitchell”

BR (Early) “61138”

 

 

BR Peppercorn “Tornado”, Class A1

 

"Tornado" will be produced in 3 forms, in Brunswick Green with late crest as part of a "Tornado Express" train pack, a Special Edition in black/white lined apple green and brass nameplates and as a Railroad version in simplified apple green.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gresley Full Brake

 

 

LNER & BR (ExLNER) Full Brake (2 Variants)

 

 

 

Gresley Suburban Stock

 

 

 

LNER Gresley Suburban Composite

LNER Gresley Suburban 1st Class

LNER Gresley Suburban 3rd Brake

LNER Gresley Suburban 3rd Class

 

 

 

BR Gresley Suburban Composite

BR Gresley Suburban 1st Class

BR Gresley Suburban 3rd Brake

BR Gresley Suburban 3rd Class

 

 

Hawksworth Firsts

 

GWR Hawksworth 1st

BR Maroon Hawksworth 1st Class

BR Crimson/Cream Hawksworth 1st Class

 

 

 

 

 

BR 27 Ton Iron Ore Tippler

 

 

BR 27 Ton Iron Ore Tippler wagon (Pre-TOPS)

BR 27 Ton Iron Ore Tippler wagon (Post-TOPS)

Triple Pack (Pre-TOPS) Weathered

 

 

ZFO/ZFP Ballast Hopper (Trout)

 

Copyright P Fidczuk

(2 variants)

ZFO/ZFP Ballast Hopper (Trout)

3 Pack (Weathered)

 

 

 

BR 20T Brake Van

 

This will be retooled and launched in 3 different colour schemes, pre-TOPS WR, post-TOPS engineers and Railfreight (Return to Derby).

 

 

 

 

 

 

GW Horse Box

 

All new product to be launched in GW and BR liveries.

 

 

 

 

 

DCC Sound locos for 2011

LMS Crimson “Duchess of Montrose”

BR (Late) “Black 5” Class 5P (Weathered)

BR Maroon “Princess Helena Victoria”

BR (Blue) “Sparrow Hawk” Class A4

BR (Late) “Clun Castle” Castle Class

BR (SubSector) “Harworth Colliery”, Class 56

BR (Green) Class 08

BR (Railfreight) Class 08

 

 

 

Train Packs

 

Continuing with the Barry J. Freeman Collection branding first seen in 2010 there will be train packs based on two more paintings, 'A Duchess at Carlisle' and 'A Date with the Duchy'.

 

 

 

Pack contains:

Duchess of Sutherland, LMS 3rd Class coach

LMS 1st Class coach, LMS 3rd Brake coach

 

 

 

Pack contains:

BR “Taunton Castle”, 2 x BR Mk1 Comp. coach

BR Mk1 Brake coach

 

Two London suburban themed train packs are to be produced:

 

London 1908

 

 

 

Pack contains:

GWR County Class, “Radnor County”,

1 x GWR Composite coaches, 1 x GWR Brake coach

 

London 1948

 

 

 

Pack contains:

BR (LNER) Class N2,

BR (LNER) Composite coach, BR (LNER) 3rd Brake coach

 

A contemporary oddity, the 'West Coast Railway Pullman'

 

 

 

Pack contains:

LMS Class 5 44932, WCR Pullman “Bassenthwaite

WCR Pullman “Buttermere”, WCR Pullman “Rydal Water”

An additional coach pack contains:

WCR Pullman “Crummock Water”, WCR Pullman “Ennerdale”

WCR Pullman “Grassmere”

 

Network Rail Measurement Train (power cars) & Network Rail Measurement Train coach pack (2 vehicles)

 

 

 

 

Steam Locos - New products from existing tooling

 

BR (Early) “Barnsley”, Class B17/6

BR (Late) “Selby Hall”, Class B17/2 (Weathered)

BR (Late) 28XX Class 2800 (Weathered)

BR (Early) 38XX Class 3800 (Weathered)

BR (Late) Thompson Class L1 (Weathered)

BR (Late) Class Q1

BR (Late) “Scots Guardsman”, Royal Scot

BR “Princess Arthur of Connaught”, Princess Class

BR (Late) “Empire of India”, Class A4

BR (Late) “Golden Plover” Class A4

LMS lined black “Duchess of Sutherland”, Circa 2010

BR (Late) “Coronach”, Class A3

BR (S&DJR) Standard 4, 75072

BR J94, 68006

BR (Late) Stanier 2-6-4 (Weathered)

BR (S&DJR) Class 8F (Weathered)

BR (Early) 0-4-2 Class 14XX

BR (Early) Class 0F (Pug)

SR A1X Terrier Class

The following items are based on existing body tooling but with updated loco drives:

BR (Late) Fowler 2P (Loco Drive)

S&DJR Fowler 2P (Loco Drive)

BR (Late) Fowler 4F (Loco Drive)

LMS Fowler 4F (Loco Drive)

 

Limited Editions

 

 

 

August 2010 saw the release of a Great British Railways commemorative set, Hornby will be marketing limited editions of three of the locos featured on the stamps highlighted below.

 

 

 

GWR “King William IV”, King Class

SR “Sir Mador de la Port”, N15 Class

LNER “Royal Lancer”, Class A1

 

 

 

D&E

 

New products from existing toolings are as follows:

 

FGW/EWS Class 90

Network Rail Class 31

GBRf Class 66, 66 723

BR Blue Class 56, 56 082

Yeoman “Kenneth J. Painter”, Class 59

Colas Rail 66

Gatwick Express Class 73 “Dave Berry”

EWS / British Steel “Tees Steel Express”, Class 60

Railfreight Sub-Sector Class 56

Serco Class 08 Shunter

BR IC, Class 08 Shunter "Picadilly"

BR Class 56 “Thunderer” (Laira Blue)

Stobart Rail “Bart the Engine”, Class 92

Freightliner Class 90

Freightliner Class 86/6, new style livery

 

 

Coaching Stock

 

New products from existing toolings and combinations thereof are as follows:

 

LNER 61’ 6” Corridor Composite Brake

LNER 61’ 6” Corridor 3rd Class

LNER 61’ 6” Corridor 1st Class

LNER 61’ 6” Buffet Car

Pullman 12 wheel 3rd Class Parlour Car No. 97

Pullman 12 wheel 1st Class Kitchen Car “Portia”

Pullman 12 wheel 3rd Brake No.95

Pullman 1st Class Parlour Car (MB) “Leona”

Pullman 3rd Class Parlour Car (MB) No. 34

Pullman 1st Class Kitchen Car (MB) “Minerva”

Pullman 3rd Class Kitchen Car (MB) No. 60

Pullman 3rd Class Brake Car (MB) No. 65

Pullman 3rd Class Brake Car (SS) No. 63

Observation Car (BR (ScR) Maroon)

BR Crimson/Cream Hawksworth Brake 3rd

BR Crimson/Cream Hawksworth Composite Brake

BR Crimson/Cream Hawksworth Composite

BR Crimson/Cream Hawksworth Corridor 3rd

BR Crimson/Cream Hawksworth Gangway Passenger Brake

BR Maroon Hawksworth Brake 3rd

BR Maroon Hawksworth Composite Brake

BR Maroon Hawksworth Composite

BR Maroon Hawksworth Corridor 3rd

BR Maroon Hawksworth Gangway Passenger Brake

GWR Choc/Cream Hawksworth Brake 3rd

GWR Choc/Cream Hawksworth Composite Brake

GWR Choc/Cream Hawksworth Composite

GWR Choc/Cream Hawksworth Corridor 3rd

GWR Choc/Cream Hawksworth Gangway Passenger Brake

BR (Blue) ExSouthern Van ‘C’

 

BR Blue (ExLNER) Buffet Car

I've used the Hornby illustration to show they've displayed the 'good side', I believe that all Gresley Buffets to receive Blue & Grey livery only had four windows on the other side.

BR InterCity (Executive) Mk2 Open First

BR InterCity (Executive) Mk2 Std. Open

BR InterCity (Executive) Mk2. Brake Std.

BR InterCity (Executive) Mk3 Sleeper

Southeastern Class 395 Standard Open (2 variants)

 

(S&DJR) Coach pack

BR Maunsell Corridor Composite (Low window)

2 x BR Maunsell 4 Compartment 3rd Class Brake (Low window)

 

 

Railroad

 

The Railroad range sees the rejuvenation of some older body toolings with updated chassis.

 

A 4-4-0 loco drive chassis has been utilised to create a warmed over County, Compound and Hunt Class.

 

 

 

 

Other notables appearing in the Railroad range include the ex-Lima 31 and Warship.

 

 

 

 

 

Trackmaster

 

Moving ahead from it's Virtual railway products of some years Hornby moves into track planning software.

 

 

• Suitable for Windows 98, 2000, XP, Vista and Windows 7
• Pre-installed Trak-Mat designs – can be extended
• Straightforward drop down menus
• Provision for standard size baseboards or bespoke
• Creation of shopping list

 

 

 

Railmaster

 

Due to be launched in April and currently under test Hornby launches an interface between the Elite DCC control unit and PC

 

• RailMaster Setup Wizard makes installation simple.
• Settings allow for English, French, German, Italian and Spanish.
• All current Hornby DCC train sets built into the program.
• Over 200 Hornby locomotives included each with automatic settings. Prototypical speeds, photos etc.
• Hornby Track Packs A – F included in program.
• Able to read locomotive CVs.

 

 

 

 

 

Bassette Lowke Buildings

 

The opportunity has been taken to scale up some recent Skaledale releases to 7mm and marketed under the Bassette Lowke brand.

 

Great Northern Station

Great Northern Waiting Room

Great Northern Signal Box

Great Northern Platform Signal Box

Great Northern Water Tower

Platelayers Hut

Platforms and Platform Ramps (2 x per pack)

 

 

One Skaledale building of note may be familiar to forum readers!

 

 

 

This Modern Traction Shed owes its roots to Stirling and Clackmannan DMRC's Airthrey Park layout. The Hornby product is a modular design based on half Airthrey Park's shed. Well done chaps.

 

 

2010 Catchup

 

With several items announced 12 months ago over-running Hornby have confirmed the following anticipated delivery dates.

 

R2967 BR “Lamport & Holt”, Merchant Navy: February

R2966 BR “Brown Jack”, Class A3: April

R2921 BR “Thorpe Hall”, Class B17/1: March

R2922 BR “Grimsby Town”, Class B17/2: March

R2920 LNER “Sandringham”, Class B17/1: May

R2965 LNER “Silver Link”, Class A4: February

R2848 GWR “Tintagel Castle”, Castle Class: March

R2927 BR “Pug”, 0-4-0: February

Barry J. Freeman – “Rare Bird”: February

R2955 Virgin Charter Relief Train: February

R2953 Flying Scotsman USA 1969: February

BR / NSE 4-VEP: April

R2963 Regional Railways Class 31: May

R2977XS BR Class 08: February

R2900XS Railfreight Class 31: February

R2962 Railfreight “Oystermouth”, Class 56: February

R4451 Pullman SR Bogie Baggage Car: March

R6469/70/71 OTA Timber wagon: March

R6466/67/68 OTA Timber wagon: March

R6484/R6485 KFA Container wagons: Mar/April

R6487 Yeoman PGA PR12130: March

 

 

End story

Ever wondered who paints the Skaledale properties?

 

[Andy Y]

Now that I've given the raw information about the Hornby 2011 announcements I'd like to give a personal perspective on this; something I rarely do.

 

Firstly let me say I think there are some excellent announcements in there, although a Brighton Belle is very unlikely to appear on a layout I make I think it's bang on the money as an iconic offering that will have excellent shelf appeal and is sure to sell fast and quick. I applaud the investment in the carriage and wagon front and hope that the Gresley suburbans sell well enough to motivate Hornby to produce other suburban stock at a future time.

 

I think loco drive upgrades to the 4Fs and 2Ps in particular are good news and complementary competition within a stengthening S&DJR sector and widens the scope for modellers with that interest.

 

Aside from the Belle I'm not even particularly concerned that there's no other significant D&E announcements as this sector has seen truly spectacular announcements over the last year that Hornby could never hope to steal any thunder from no matter how hard they tried.

 

Whilst sitting down and working through the list I became increasingly saddened and frustrated with a personal perception of an undercurrent of opportunism and negative competition that does not benefit the buyer, modeller, retailer or longer term investment in the hobby.

 

Why Tornado? Of course it's a commercial opportunity but a perfectly good product already exists from Bachmann and let's not forget that Bachmann have made donations to the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust along the way; I've not seen mention of similar support in Hornby's announcement. I could accept that the Railroad edition would have a place in the market but not the Special Edition version or the Train Pack with its long-toothed Mark 1s. I do balance this with the view that the average 'Tornado' buyer is probably more likely to be a red box buyer than a blue one but is that reason enough? I'm sure the investment in this would have been equally returned with any number of other opportunities so I'm only left thinking that this product is designed to impact upon a Bachmann sale.

 

Why the B1? Sure, the Bachmann split-chassis product has been around longer than some of the modellers that have bought it and is a well-sweated asset and the market may welcome it but wasn't there many other L&NE opprtunities to have taken up? I'm sure Bachmann would have upgraded the chassis at least on this in due course even though the old product still sits in their current range as it's been a steady programme over the last few years and there should be some consideration of grandfather rights, similar to the awaited new tooling of the B17 in Hornby's favour.

 

Why that Warship? I shouldn't even have to question why an old and inferior product merits a place in the range other than to maximise the return from a bought asset; if that's the case surely the old Lima Western would have been a better product to have chosen unless the duplication of products with inferior items is being carefully targeted? The Bachmann/Mainline product may have its roots in a product announced some 30 years ago but it's still better than this.

 

Why the 20T brake? There's plenty of other brake vans that could have been chosen admittedly with less widespread usage, I hope that the product is better than Bachmann's to allay my compounding frustration at these choices but will it represent comparable or justifiable pricing?

 

There is another one that can be added to the list but I can't tell you what that is yet I'm afraid.

 

I don't have a problem where two new and competing models are on the timetable such as the 4MTs a couple of years ago as this gives choice and benefit; each only has themselves to blame if they don't take the poundnotes. I don't have a problem with other assets being wrung to within an inch of their commercial life at all but this seems to me to be a tactic to impact on a competitor's retail sales where the opportunity exists. Not only does this mean reduced choice tomorrow as the investment needed in all of the above could have brought new and different products to the marketplace (insert your personal disappointmet of choice) but if this trend continues (it's been evident before with such things as the Lima 66) it only serves to frustrate the logical choices for upgrade within a manufacturers range. The financial benefits of such upgrades are marginal enough from a commercial perspective for any manufacturer without degradation of the quality available in the marketplace through a competitor's activities.

 

I'm far from naive in commercial realities but this, in my view, has gone a step too far. Hornby are astute enough in their marketing strategies to use the Royal Mail, Barry Freeman, Pete Waterman etc in a bid to widen the market appeal of an offering so I don't think it's necessary to resort to negative competition.

 

Thinking back to last July when Bachmann were within days of announcing the Blue Pullman there was mention of a Railroad Blue Pullman (after being told for countless years that the tooling was beyond use). What was that all about then? Given the timing I don't think it had much to do with the stillborn Olivias/Heljan project. Don't get me wrong, my concerns would have been exponentially higher if we had seen a Railroad BP announced and thankfully that is not the case as of today. I sincerely hope that we don't have that spectre looming next Christmas

 

So, are Hornby's announcements for 2011 good news? Yes and No.

[Andy Y]

Bump

[wollastonblue]

Excellent presentation as always Andy. The Belle is right up my street, so looks like an expensive year. I think the decisions made have been excellent, not only from a modellers point of view, but also from a commercial point of view. I can see why they have done Tornado, due to certain not so specialised shops i.e Toys R Us, Argos, Hobbycraft etc. being able to exploit the PR machine that is Tornado.

 

Any more on the Skaledale range or is it just the Modern Traction Depot.

 

Happy Christmas Everyone.

[John M Upton]

FGW/EWS Class 90

Funny, wasn't aware the Great Western Main Line had been electrified already!!! Presumably that should be First Scotrail!

 

BR InterCity (Executive) Mk2 Open First

BR InterCity (Executive) Mk2 Std. Open

BR InterCity (Executive) Mk2. Brake Std.

 

Looks over at his newly completed (as in the paint is still a bit wet) rake of repainted AirCon Mk2's and bangs head on desk in pure frustration!!

 

I do not ruddy believe it!!!

 

Gresley full brake looks good though and needless to say I will be requiring a GatEx Class 73. Is that Horsebox reheated Lima?

 

Just noticed on the Hornby website that we at last have it confirmed that the NSE Vep will be refurbished and the blue one unrefurbished. No blue and grey though which surprises me, that will be snapped up as a money grabbing Ltd Edition by one of the retailers I fear.

[James90012]

Hmm nothing that stands out to me this year!

[Andy Y]

Is that Horsebox reheated Lima?

 

I believe it's a new tooling John. Apologies for repeating the FGW error.

 

 

 

[S.A.C Martin]

I'm speechless. Totally broken, frankly. On the one hand - great for a lot of things. But doing a Peppercorn A1 model, just for Tornado, and the B1s?

 

Can't say I understand either of those.

 

But the Gresley Suburban coaches - answered the pleas at last. Finally, something for those L1s to pull!!! :D

[Ian J.]

Well, as a bit of an S&DJR nut, I'm happy to finally see the loco drive 2Ps and 4Fs, and the 390-399 Maunsell low window as a set

 

The Brighton Belle is welcome and I may get one as a special if funds allow.

 

The B1 and Tornado seem to be strange duplications. I have to admit to being somewhat puzzled regarding them.

 

I'll take the rest in over the next few days as it's (as always) a fairly long list to fully absorb.

[m0rris]

Some interesting releases and whilst they are of little interest to me (luckily) you do point ot some serious problems...

 

Firstly, is Hornby ineffect trying to declare a retail war on Bachmann? Wars do no-one any good and there will be a loser, and on an international scale Hornby are the underdogs.

 

Secondly, I am glad that seemingly for the first time they have listened to the constant cries for suburbans!

 

m0rris

[Andy Y]

Any more on the Skaledale range or is it just the Modern Traction Depot.

 

There's quite a bit of it, see http://www.Hornby.com/2011/skaledale,117,HIN.html

 

A lot of the content was line drawings only on my press info so I didn't dedicate any time to that side of the announcements.

 

 

 

[trisonic]

Well, Andy, thanks for the overview - I really didn't expect it to be too exciting though it is nice to see some LNER suburban, maybe next year for a J15?

 

Thanks, again, Pete.

[coachmann]

I go along with the Tornado saga and needless duplication. Plastic RTR is going somewhat astray here. On a purely personal view, I am glad to see the Compound and D49, Railroad Range or not. They are the basis of a good model with some additional modelling.

 

Non-corridor coaches I did suspect. Can't say why, it was a feeling after I did some in RTR brass this year. But I thought they would be LMS or LNER Thompson, not Gresley. I sincerely hope Hornby makes a better job of them than they did of the corridor Gresleys.

[R.Langley]

I must say, I do like the look of the NMT.

 

But, like Andy and several others, I do not understand why Tornado, and the B1 are to be produced. And by the looks of things, I don't like the look of the Hornby Tornado over the Bachmann one, so that's the one for me!

 

Merry Christmas all!

[birdseyecircus]

Some interesting points there Andy.

I recall saying that last year was A D&E disappointment and i feel the same this year. Whilst there are some welcome reliveries.

Hornby have of late produced some excellent Diesel locos and they have missed a chance to update ( to current standards) a loco that has appeared in a huge number of liveries - namely a class 73. I can see this being grabbed by either Dapol or Bachmann this year.

 

Paul

[bluex5]

The B1, Gresley BG and Loco Drive D49 are good news for me. The A1 is quite shattering in it's pointlessness but I guess the bean counters have decieded it's a commercially sound idea. Limby 31 - Good / Limby Warship - rubbish. It's great to see suburban stock too although it's of limited interest to me as I'm building an MPD layout.

[Chris89]

As others have said Tornado and the B1 was a strange choice :/. The NMT looks quite nice i have to say so do the non-corridor stock. Still rather have had an Updated Class 91 and Class 67's to match the DVT's though.

 

Merry Christmas all.

[Mr.S.corn78]

I'm with you Andy on your thoughts.

 

It will be intreasting to see what in reality we get I'm the shops and what gets carried over to 2012 as 20 ish models from this year.

 

Also with the looming VAT increase, what things may not make it at all.

 

Nothing to excite me in that list

 

cheers

Simon

[LH&JC]

Ooohh the D49s (Yorkshire for me, what else!), new B1s & Midland compounds in the Railroad range! I was right about the Q1 coming back, me being right about something I'm shocked! I'm surprised not only at Tornado but also the re-tooling of the LNER/BR brakevan. A move to the LNER is starting to look like a reality! I might be heading to an expensive year

[JohnR]

I'm surprised that if the've tooled up to do Tornado, they're not doing any other A1s - although I am aware there are a number of differences between Tornado and the earliers A1s, surely this could have been accomodated? It really seems like a crass attempt to cash in, especially as there seems to be no support for the trust - at least with Bachmann you knew that part of your purchase prices was going to support the loco.

 

Good for the non-corridor Gresleys, and some of the other rolling stock. Suprised that the Maunsells havnt had more outings, as they seem to be in short supply, at least in BR(S) livery.

[sulzer27jd]

Bonkers - completely bonkers. But then again we won't see them for years anyway so why worry. Oh well back to the kits!

 

J

[beast66606]

No new 67 or Pacer but some new duplicates - ho hum

[298]

For how long have the WCRC ex-Manchester Pullmans been Mk2d coaches...? Another Brio moment in an uninspiring announcement, although I might be tempted by the GWR County having had one for Christmas 28 years ago.

[Pandora]

Tornado and the B1, have Hornby made a deal to use the Bachmann tooling?

 

Strange to see such a duplication of effort, the Gresley Buffet in Blue/Grey is a must, also the PC Control software, who has written , Freiwald perhaps?

[Ed-farms]

I am a bit puzzled why the London 1948 pack features 2 teaks when a better option would have been to use the new Suburban Stock. All in all a great line up withplenty thatappeals to me. Need more money fast.