RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted May 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2014 Any news on the modified halls that were recalled? Regards Neil According to Bachmann's Dennis Lovett in today's MREMag, they're being completely retooled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2014 http://www.mremag.com/news/bulletin.asp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hi I see it said in the Bachmann statment on Sunday that the modifiled hall's are in the art work stage! Does this mean we could see them this year? Cheers Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hi I see it said in the Bachmann statment on Sunday that the modifiled hall's are in the art work stage! Does this mean we could see them this year? Cheers Neil Have a look at Bachmann's website and you will get your answer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hi It's saying in stock? That right? Cheers Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hi It's saying in stock? That right? Cheers Neil It's either recently arrived or very close is how I read it - I'm waiting on Kernow's newsletter for confirmation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 Sounds great I wasn't expecting it quite yet! Cheers Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Kernow's said it may be a mistake they think it is. But if it's correct they should have them in a few weeks. Cheers Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewCarty Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I have recently bought a second hand Bachmann St Edmund Hall (32-002). I was interested to see that it is modelled with a fire iron tunnel on the fireman's side of the loco. I knew all the modified halls had fire iron tunnels, but I didn't realise that some of the 'normal' halls had them too. Does anyone know which 'normal' halls did had them? Thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2018 I have recently bought a second hand Bachmann St Edmund Hall (32-002). I was interested to see that it is modelled with a fire iron tunnel on the fireman's side of the loco. I knew all the modified halls had fire iron tunnels, but I didn't realise that some of the 'normal' halls had them too. Does anyone know which 'normal' halls did had them? Thanks in advance! 5920 onwards had them fitted from when built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewCarty Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 5920 onwards had them fitted from when built. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Notice that Kernow are showing... '32-002A Bachmann Hall Class Steam Locomotive number 4971 named "Stanway Hall" in BR Black livery with early emblem and weathered finish. New release - pre-orders invited - expected January 2019 ' How does this model compare with the Hornby Railroad Hall? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2019 Notice that Kernow are showing... '32-002A Bachmann Hall Class Steam Locomotive number 4971 named "Stanway Hall" in BR Black livery with early emblem and weathered finish. New release - pre-orders invited - expected January 2019 ' How does this model compare with the Hornby Railroad Hall? The Hornby is an underrated model but then it has not been produced in BR black.Earlier Bachmann versions were indifferent performers for sure and with added weight the Hornby Hall is perhaps a better performer but again this divides opinion.Pay money and make choice which may be an easy decision given the increasing gap between each version in that respect. IMHO,given its age,Bachmann’s version no longer presents value for money.I am personally tempted by the post war GWR Hall expected soon but given the undoubted fact that the same tooling seems to have doubled in cost since its introduction a decade or so ago,I will exercise self control and pass on this one.The Hall and Modified Hall do not belong in Barwell’s Hall of Fame...at least for this forum member. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2019 Better detail wise but you're paying for it.I have them both and love them equally. The Railroad model can have the added detail with some modelling, it runs nicely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) In my mind appearence is everything. In that sense the paint quality of Bachmanns is very good and a to me, a truer green. I was dissapointed with 4965 Rood Ashton Hall from Hornby in BR green, for the same reasons as the King.. the paint was faded green. Adderley hall is much the same minus the black lining, and gold trim etc. If your happy with that, than as a model itself fine, the Railroad one is a bargain at £50 from hattons, though i could never replicate a decent paint job myself.. But if you want the nice paint job, Bachmann is the better one. Hornby could chose to put the same quality finish as the Castles and it would redeem itself. Edited January 4, 2019 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 88C Posted January 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2019 I agree that Bachmann do a better green but I find that the orange lining tends to dominate. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 What's happened to the Modified Hall. Am I right in thinking that the errors on the front end were not corrected? The problem here was that the chassis was designed for the original hall with no recess for the Modified hall. All that would be needed is changing the chassis to allow for the modified hall and having the extra 'infill' material as part of the running plate on the original hall. Or (at this stage) tooling a new chassis block for the modified hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted January 6, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2019 What's happened to the Modified Hall. Am I right in thinking that the errors on the front end were not corrected? The problem here was that the chassis was designed for the original hall with no recess for the Modified hall. All that would be needed is changing the chassis to allow for the modified hall and having the extra 'infill' material as part of the running plate on the original hall. Or (at this stage) tooling a new chassis block for the modified hall. The basic chassis block from the original Hall was used, so despite tooling up a completely new footplate casting (as well as the new body tooling), it was compromised by the chassis block which has a fixing screw in the area between the plate frames at the front. For Bachmann to fix, they would need to tool up a new chassis block and a new footplate, so a fair bit of expense would be required. Unless Hornby (or A N Other) were to announce that they were bringing out a modified hall in 4mm scale, I cant see them fixing it any time soon. It doesn't explain why there are the two raised lumps (oil panel covers?) on the curved sections either side of the frame extensions (which should only be on a standard Hall). This was just sloppy design work by Bachmann not checking to drawings / photos wen they tooled up the new footplate... Its a shame as if they had considered it at the design stage of the standard Hall, a good designer would have considered the future expansion of the tooling and located the retaining screw elsewhere..... I've done the Brassmasters conversion on mine, makes a huge difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2019 Better detail wise but you're paying for it.I have them both and love them equally. Here is the new release 32-007 up close and personal. I've been told the chimney is the one off their modified Hall and is incorrect for the Collett Hall in this livery. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2019 Here is the new release 32-007 up close and personal. I've been told the chimney is the one off their modified Hall and is incorrect for the Collett Hall in this livery. DSCN4786 (3).JPG Ironic that,Robin,considering Brassmaster conversion kit for it being necessary.Do they produce a suitable chimney for 4920 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2019 Ironic that,Robin,considering Brassmaster conversion kit for it being necessary.Do they produce a suitable chimney for 4920 ? Yes, they sell the one from the Martin Finney kit as a separate item. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Here is the new release 32-007 up close and personal. I've been told the chimney is the one off their modified Hall and is incorrect for the Collett Hall in this livery. DSCN4786 (3).JPG Is that missing the Capuchon ? (The raised part on the front of the Chimney ?) I recall the copper caps on Bachmann locos are a separate fit anyway, and will remove with a twist ? A bit sorry for the loco, I remember reading the pocket book sized mags about 4920’s overhaul as a kid. Its spent a lot of time sitting outside, more than it was in Barry. This was it 7 years back (not Mine), cant imagine time has been kind since, but i cant find much recent info about it. https://www.flickr.com/photos/38771725@N05/7046122251/ I hope when they do get on with it, that the lagging under the boiler was removed 20 years back, and the chimney was blocked off, to keep the damp out. Edited January 24, 2019 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Is that missing the Capuchon ? (The raised part on the front of the Chimney ?) I recall the copper caps on Bachmann locos are a separate fit anyway, and will remove with a twist ? A bit sorry for the loco, I remember reading the pocket book sized mags about 4920’s overhaul as a kid. Its spent a lot of time sitting outside, more than it was in Barry. This was it 7 years back (not Mine), cant imagine time has been kind since, but i cant find much recent info about it. https://www.flickr.com/photos/38771725@N05/7046122251/ I hope when they do get on with it, that the lagging under the boiler was removed 20 years back, and the chimney was blocked off, to keep the damp out. Gosh! That’s worse than one of the poorer Hornby finishes (which, I hope, we are leaving behind). Poor old thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Personally, i have stuck with the Railroad. With change out of £50, I can justify after sales parts to bring up my requirements. The Bachmann is too expensive to justify having to spend even more cash and hack about. Luckily I have kit building skills and neither Hornby/Bachmann look as good or can haul long trains as my Nucast Halls (and you can build them as Saint Martin). Not as good as the Finney but too good to replace). Mike Wiltshire Edited January 28, 2019 by Coach bogie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG 7305 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Does anyone else have a 4920 missing the front cylinder relief valves? I was able to cut a pair off a spare chassis so no harm done. Best regards Julian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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