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#826 Adams442T

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 11:47

Please don't let it be an opening smokebox door.  IMHO these are the biggest waste of money in tooling a steam locomotive.  They are seldom well done, and I for one don't intend this lovely graceful loco to be sitting around with its front door open!


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 11:50

I very much hope that none of the tooling and production costs will be squandered on standard DCC sound that I don't want anyway....
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:34

People seem to be missing a trick with this model. OK, the real thing ran on the LNER from grouping to nationalisation in various versions and liveries.

 

But 251 is "as preserved" and is therefore truly a "modern image" model. More than it is a "pre-grouping" one.

 

Any modeller has only got to use a little of the old modellers license to say that 251 has been put back in steam for use on specials.

 

So it is entirely suitable, accepting a few minor variations in appearance and tweaks of history (which we can be very good at coping with), for a modelling period of well over 100 years. 

 

That is considerably more than nearly all the current crop of RTR models.

 

Plus it is beautiful and lovely and I want one!

 

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#829 GNR Dave

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:58

Maybe some Great Northern liveried teaks as an optional train pack.



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 13:06

Yum,Yum

Yes please



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 14:13

Locomotion, the National Railway Museum in Shildon has today (19 November, 2014) made available the latest pictures of their new exclusive edition model railway locomotive based on the National Railway Museum’s “Ivatt” large Atlantic locomotive. Also announced is weathered version of BR No. 62822 available for the “National Collection in Miniature” series first C1 Atlantic production run.
 
The 00 gauge ‘Exclusive Edition’ represents the National Railway Museum’s Great Northern Railway locomotive No. 251 currently resident at Locomotion in Shildon and its sister locomotive 62822 in British Railways livery.
 
It features a heavy boiler weight and has a 21 PIN decoder socket fitted. It also has provision for fitting a sound decoder.
 
There will be four versions of the exclusive edition produced:
 
Great Northern Railway No. 251 (preserved livery) available for £179.00;
 
London North Eastern Railway No. 3251 (apple green livery) available for £179.00;
 
British Railways No. 62822 (black pristine livery) available for £179.00;
 
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 British Railways No. 62822 (black weathered livery) available for £189.00.
 
San Ivatt1.jpg
 
The team behind Locomotion, the National Railway Museum at Shildon’s online enterprise www.locomotionmodels.com are working with world class model railway manufacturers Bachmann Europe PLC to produce the new models.

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#832 LocomotionatShildon

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 14:15

Maybe some Great Northern liveried teaks as an optional train pack.

Funny you should say that but the new Hornby Teak coaches are on special offer for Warley - Buy one get one free (=£25 a coach)


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#833 LocomotionatShildon

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 14:19

Find us and the coaches on stand E22



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 14:52

Well, that's steam model of the year if ever I saw one!

Stunning work, love the weathered version.
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 14:52

Funny you should say that but the new Hornby Teak coaches are on special offer for Warley - Buy one get one free (=£25 a coach)

The BR numbered, LNER liveried ones? And will there be brake coaches?



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 14:55

I very much hope that none of the tooling and production costs will be squandered on standard DCC sound that I don't want anyway....

or working lights.

 

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 15:11

I hope this doesn't come across as carping, but having spent part of the morning leafing through books looking for detail differences in the ones I'm building:

 

I can't see a whistle or top lamp iron

The atomiser pipe - I can't find any examples which have one on both sides

Did 62822 have tail rods that late?

62822's handrails stopped short of the smokebox front and it had a prominent stop on the smokebox hinge.

62822 also had two very prominent rows of rivets or bolts above the atomiser pipe.

The weathered one doesn't seem to have cabside sight screens.

 

Are these preproduction or prototype builds?


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#838 micklner

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 16:14

Blimey Jonathan what do you expect for £180 !!     :jester:  :jester:  :jester:  :jester:


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 19:15

Unless I'm mistaken that isn't just shadow below the rear portion of the running plate. The apparent gap between the tops of the frames (looking rather widely spaced) and the underside of the running plate is most unwelcome. It almost looks as if the rear frames form some sort of old-model-technology separate waggling truck.

Bogie wheels too small also?

The dome shape and the not-over-fattened smokebox are certainly an improvement on the DJH items.

I'm not sure how we could have teak coaches that merely sport GNR livery, they'd have to be totally new coach models rather than just a retro-livery for the current production RTR teaks.
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 20:03

Re- the GNR teaks, I agree, I assumed that GNR Dave meant newly tooled coaches.  The GNR coaches while sharing some similarities are very different in detail to the LNER versions.  Even the curved roof end profiles are different


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 21:44

I wonder how many BR people will be changing their orders.

Agree it could make model of the year if it is out in time.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 21:55

I wonder how many BR people will be changing their orders.

Agree it could make model of the year if it is out in time.

Oh I'm debating it!

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 22:58

Wow that is one stunning looking locomotive, definitely best this year
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 23:30

Unless I'm mistaken that isn't just shadow below the rear portion of the running plate. The apparent gap between the tops of the frames (looking rather widely spaced) and the underside of the running plate is most unwelcome. It almost looks as if the rear frames form some sort of old-model-technology separate waggling truck.

 

Surely that shouldn't be necessary?  It doesn't need to be any different from a 4-6-0 in model terms, just with the rear carrying axle unpowered, and given some vertical play so that it doesn't take any tractive weight off the drivers.  I can see what you mean, though.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 23:49

Oh I'm debating it!

I'm not - I like my locos pristine, even BR ones! :-)



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:33

Unless I'm mistaken that isn't just shadow below the rear portion of the running plate. The apparent gap between the tops of the frames (looking rather widely spaced) and the underside of the running plate is most unwelcome. It almost looks as if the rear frames form some sort of old-model-technology separate waggling truck.Bogie wheels too small also?The dome shape and the not-over-fattened smokebox are certainly an improvement on the DJH items.I'm not sure how we could have teak coaches that merely sport GNR livery, they'd have to be totally new coach models rather than just a retro-livery for the current production RTR teaks.


I think the body is just not sat properly, the photos of the GNR version further back seem to show no gap
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Posted 21 November 2014 - 11:35

I think the body is just not sat properly, the photos of the GNR version further back seem to show no gap

There was definitely no gap on the models shown on announcement day at Shildon


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#848 LocomotionatShildon

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 21:36

One thing to remember are these two models are the pre production samples and not the finished model. The 'real, one will be so much better but the paintwork on the samples is top notch. I have them with me ready to go in the display case tomorrow morning. Stand E22. Call by and say hello then I can put a face to all the wired names!
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#849 The Stationmaster

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 21:53

One thing to remember are these two models are the pre production samples and not the finished model. The 'real, one will be so much better but the paintwork on the samples is top notch. I have them with me ready to go in the display case tomorrow morning. Stand E22. Call by and say hello then I can put a face to all the wired names!

See you tomorrow S - I've even got my floor plan of the show marked up so I know where to find you!


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Posted 22 November 2014 - 07:18

One thing to remember are these two models are the pre production samples and not the finished model. The 'real, one will be so much better but the paintwork on the samples is top notch. I have them with me ready to go in the display case tomorrow morning. Stand E22. Call by and say hello then I can put a face to all the wired names!

 

I think you mistyped the last sentence there Sandra.  Did you mean: "... put a weird face to all the names"?  :jester:


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