gr.king Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) On looking at that image of the loco in LNER livery I'm tempted to comment that it would be nice if Locomotion were to INSIST that Bachmann produce this loco WITHOUT the endemic drooping rear running plate. Evidence of the droop, which bedevils their LNER Pacifics, is there to see in that photo...... Buffers a bit too big too? Edited March 6, 2015 by gr.king Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) On looking at that image of the loco in LNER livery I'm tempted to comment that it would be nice if Locomotion were to INSIST that Bachmann produce this loco WITHOUT the endemic drooping rear running plate. Evidence of the droop, which bedevils their LNER Pacifics, is there to see in that photo...... Buffers a bit too big too? More than tempted, it appears... Bachmann list this model as 'in production' so pointing out faults in a photo of a pre-production model is now a pretty pointless activity. The die has been cast and we will get what we get. Incidentally, Bachmann have been making LNER pacifics for over a decade (all presumably 'bedevilled' with this problem) and the photos of the atlantics have been on the Locomotion website for several months. Would it not be reasonable to wonder why it has only just come to light? Cheers Adrian Edited March 8, 2015 by spet0114 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I believe (but correct me if I'm wrong) that the droopy footplate only affected early batches of their Pacifics. Hopefully this is only affecting the samples and if so it will not detract from production items. Rhys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 More than tempted, it appears... Bachmann list this model as 'in production' so pointing out faults in a photo of a pre-production model is now a pretty pointless activity. The die has been cast and we will get what we get. Incidentally, Bachmann have been making LNER pacifics for over a decade (all presumably 'bedevilled' with this problem) and the photos of the atlantics have been on the Locomotion website for several months. Would it not be reasonable to wonder why it has only just come to light? Cheers Adrian Had I seen the latest LNER version's droopy image sooner, I'd have commented sooner. The recent updates on this thread had escaped my attention. I don't spend all of my time monitoring RMWeb as full time work, along with model making rather than just talking about it, leave me with limited web-watching opportunities. Only just come to light? No. I've had to mess about with adjustment of the sagging rear end of the running plate on every Bachmann Peppercorn Pacific that has passed through my hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo2929 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 when will the LNER and GNR versions be in stock ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocomotionatShildon Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 when will the LNER and GNR versions be in stock ? The BR Black versions are due last week in March so I should get all those pre orders fulfilled by the 31st. I plan on locking myself in a cupboard until I get them all wrapped. Plenty of tea and chocolate will keep me going so all contributions to the choccy stash greatly appreciated.! The lner and 251 will follow on but I don't know the date for that yet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 .... I've had to mess about with adjustment of the sagging rear end of the running plate on every Bachmann Peppercorn Pacific that has passed through my hands. All my Pepp A1's likewise, all these were purchased 10 or more years ago. The two Pepp A2s I have are trouble free however, so it can be done right... Tangential to the C1 in any case, we'll have to see what we get, and then possibly fiddle with them - it's going to be way superior to the WSM kit I sweated over in the dim and distant past. But first I have a Hornby J15 to tinker with and hide the boiler join... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The BR Black versions are due last week in March so I should get all those pre orders fulfilled by the 31st. I plan on locking myself in a cupboard until I get them all wrapped. Plenty of tea and chocolate will keep me going so all contributions to the choccy stash greatly appreciated.! The lner and 251 will follow on but I don't know the date for that yet. Any news yet? Yours, Waiting-with-hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted March 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2015 Any news yet? Yours, Waiting-with-hope. Sandra can't hear you. She's locked in a cupboard. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocomotionatShildon Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 No still waiting but not for too much longer. I am still free for now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I was intrigued to note in Simon Kohler's latest blog, that he's awaiting this release with some anticipation, and appears to have some input into the launch. The Nim. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted March 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2015 I was intrigued to note in Simon Kohler's latest blog, that he's awaiting this release with some anticipation, and appears to have some input into the launch. Bachmann's in house research into the C1 is encyclopeadic,compiled and collated by their design team. With regard to its marketing,he is of course on hand in an advisory capacity. He was not however at its launch last July. Graham Hubbard,Dennis Lovett and others ,together with Brian Greenwood and the redoubtable Sandra of Locomotion fronted that. The Nim. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Image from today at Ally Pally... M1410012 by Coldgunner, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Phwoar! Thanks for sharing, certainly a handsome beast! Cheers J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Image from today at Ally Pally... M1410012 by Coldgunner, on Flickr That Hall looks nice too - nicer than the picture in the new Bachmann catalogue. That's quite a pile of coal they've given the C1. Edited March 28, 2015 by Ozexpatriate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2015 Hi. It's the LNER one which I have on pre-order, and the one on display at Ally Pally looks really good to me, and I look forward to getting it in due course. I shall put some real coal into the tender. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocomotionatShildon Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Image from today at Ally Pally... M1410012 by Coldgunner, on Flickr Looks really good.. I haven't seen the lner version up close yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Chimney too far back for a superheated version? Droopy slidebars? Nice livery overall. And before anybody gets all flustered about the lateness of my remarks, I WOULD have queried the chimney position much earlier had an image that showed it adequately on the LNER version been released...... If necessary I can change the chimney position anyway. Nicer to have it right at source, given the price though. Edited March 29, 2015 by gr.king Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted March 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) I wondered about the slidebars too Graeme but having looked at a few photographs of the real thing there does seem to be a slight downward slope. Since none of the photographs are side-on I can't say I'm 100% convinced but so far I'm leaning (ha ha) towards a slight slope being correct. An example: http://www.train-photos.com/picture/number3910.asp I wonder if the angle is slightly out on the model or if we're seeing photographic distortion? Looking again at Coldgunner's photo: I wonder if the slidebar 'unit' is not properly located since the plastic piece doesn't look vertical. Do you have any convincing images of the real thing? No idea about the chimney. How far out do you think it is? Edited March 29, 2015 by teaky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) And before anybody gets all flustered about the lateness of my remarks, I WOULD have queried the chimney position much earlier had an image that showed it adequately on the LNER version been released...... If necessary I can change the chimney position anyway. Nicer to have it right at source, given the price though. Not flustered Graeme, but I do still wonder why you persist in pointing out structural flaws in the decoration samples, which by their nature are only representative of the colour scheme and may have physical differences to the models that we eventually receive. As the model is 'in production' (Bachmann's words) and with the first batch of BR liveried locos arriving imminently (Locomotion, paraphrased), the time for altering the moulds, and hence the final models is long-passed. Wouldn't it be better to save up these thoughts until we know what we're dealing with? Incidentally, if you look back at post #341, you'll see a engineering prototype of either the LNER or BR version that shows the chimney positioning quite well. I'm no expert, but it looks about right to me. Cheers Adrian Edited March 29, 2015 by spet0114 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Centre of chimney should be only 1mm aft of the mid-point of the smokebox. Even in post 341, to which you have drawn my attention, it appears to have been modelled noticeably further back. It certainly looks right on the saturated version - well to the rear of the smokebox, precisely over the mid-point of the bogie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocomotionatShildon Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 The BR Black versions are due last week in March so I should get all those pre orders fulfilled by the 31st. I plan on locking myself in a cupboard until I get them all wrapped. Plenty of tea and chocolate will keep me going so all contributions to the choccy stash greatly appreciated.! The lner and 251 will follow on but I don't know the date for that yet. Ok...may take me a day or two longer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Chimney too far back for a superheated version? Droopy slidebars? Nice livery overall... If the slidebars prove not quite as well aligned on the crank axle as they should be (same sort of trouble as on the ROD / O4) it is a simple adjustment if the production model needs it. The all important aspects, looks like a C1, tidily liveried, hopefully has a good mechanism; and the cramped wheelbase which should make some enthusiastic tail wagging possible wehn running all fill me with enthusiasm at the prospect. What with the O2 and J50 to come, it's a boGNaGNza! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Now that looks very tidily as it should. I can see an opening for an aftermarket part, in the form of a replacement straight conrod for those who promise not to whang it round tight corners... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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