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#1 Chameleon

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Posted 22 January 2015 - 07:52

I see County Gate, possibly the greatest narrow gauge layout ever built is coming up for sale today. I hope it gets a good price and goes to a good home and still does the rounds at exhibitions. If I had the money, I would buy it in a heartbeat.



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 23:02

I checked up and apparently it did not sell at the auction.



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Posted 17 April 2015 - 06:25

On another forum it is stated that County Gate, Cliffhanger and Bratton Fleming have been sold and will be on permanent display, but no details of where or who now owns them.

Frank

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Posted 17 April 2015 - 09:14

does that include the rolling stock & locos



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Posted 17 April 2015 - 15:07

From what was stated I think most of the stock and locos will go with the layouts.

Not much hard information though.

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Posted 17 April 2015 - 15:25

I see County Gate, possibly the greatest narrow gauge layout ever built .....

:scratchhead: now there's a debate that would be a can of worms.... ;)
To be honest it had so much greenery on it I always thought it looked mouldy.... :P
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#7 Leander

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Posted 17 April 2015 - 23:05

County Gate, possibly the greatest narrow gauge layout ever built...

 

Obviously you've never seen Peter Kazer's 'Corris'!


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 07:51

Obviously you've never seen Peter Kazer's 'Corris'!

... or his 'Dinas Junction'....

I would contend that the daddy of all 009/NG layouts - the Craig & Mertonford - is at least one of, if not the - 'greatest' NG layout ever built, due to it's pioneering nature, longevity, & sheer character.
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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:25

I would contend that the daddy of all 009/NG layouts - the Craig & Mertonford - is at least one of, if not the - 'greatest' NG layout ever built, due to it's pioneering nature, longevity, & sheer character.

 

 

Agreed.

 

I also agree that all of Peter Kazer's layouts have been exemplary, although I always found that Blythburgh somehow lacked the atmosphere of the others, perhaps because Peter failed to crack the difficult presentational problems that the prototype site presented.

 

One other narrow gauge "layout" from a half a century ago that really deserves mention is the OO12 "put-together" of the railways of the Isle of Man produced by a number of members of the Manchester Model Railway Society, exhibited at the Society's 1964 and 1965 shows at the Manchester Corn Exchange and featured over three issues of the Railway Modeller in late 1964. It incorporated enough of the Island's railways, including all the terminal stations, to be run as a system "just like the real thing".


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:26

Have to say I was disappointed when I saw County Gate at a local exhibition. It was after it had been in one of the magazines with nice close-ups of all the detailing. It probably wasn't helped by having chairs used for a barrier, but the nearest you could get to view a train was about 8 feet away with the corner of the L being much further. Nice as a scenic spectacular, but the detail was lost, mostly green blobs moving through a green background. Real pity.

 

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:33

On another forum it is stated that County Gate, Cliffhanger and Bratton Fleming have been sold and will be on permanent display, but no details of where or who now owns them.

Frank

Reminds me of a few other layouts, Barrie Kelsall's "Filisur", David Yule's "Disentis" and I think Barry Norman's L&SWR "Petherick" which were all bought by someone in the West Midlands to go on permanent display. Never found out exactly where they were displayed, but "Disentis" has new owners and is scheduled to appear at Chatham show in June.

 

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#12 Hobby

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:45

but the nearest you could get to view a train was about 8 feet away with the corner of the L being much further. Nice as a scenic spectacular, 

 

That was how it's designed to be viewed, perhaps not 8ft away but certainly from a distance (the barriers were usually about 4/5ft away, I'd have been surprised if they were really 8ft away)... You are looking at a railway in the scenery not a close up... That applied both to CG and CH... Many layouts are built to be viewed that way but when they appear in magazines they do close ups as that's the way they do it. The detail can still be seen but at a distance just like many of us view a real railway...

 

To be fair to that original quote if you were selling your pride and joy you'd talk it up as well... They've both received many "best in shows" and other awards... That sort of thing is very subjective, being a personal opinion and in in this case one that isn't always based on the layouts themselves but other "gossip"...

 

Perhaps best to leave it at that rather than get into a slanging match? :)


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Posted 02 September 2016 - 16:02

I see County Gate, possibly the greatest narrow gauge layout ever built.......................

 

I would add Dave & Shirley Rowe's Llareggub (I think that was its name) from the early 80's to the list of greatest ever. Their level of detail for the time was outstanding.

As featured on the Lineside Look at Model Railways DVD by the late Bob Symes.


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#14 RJS1977

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Posted 02 September 2016 - 17:19

That was how it's designed to be viewed, perhaps not 8ft away but certainly from a distance (the barriers were usually about 4/5ft away, I'd have been surprised if they were really 8ft away)... You are looking at a railway in the scenery not a close up... That applied both to CG and CH... Many layouts are built to be viewed that way but when they appear in magazines they do close ups as that's the way they do it. The detail can still be seen but at a distance just like many of us view a real railway...

 

 

It should also be borne in mind that its creator uses a mobility scooter so there needed to be plenty of space between the layout and the barriers for him to be able to access it if necessary.

 

Also - increasing the distance between the barriers and the layout also increases the length of the barrier and hence the potential number of people who can see it at a given time.



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Posted 25 September 2016 - 23:39

Llareggub was the name of the village(B----r All backwards from Dylon Thomas's Under Milkwood) . The layout was originally just called Milkwood. I remember it from that narrow corridor at Central Hall and still have the old exhibition guide somewhere(early 70s not the 80s). Although it has now been rebuilt, it did suffer from problems with the material used to build the buildings(some form of clay popular at the time)

It was possibly the layout that inspired me to be different as it was more like the  dioramas in London museums, including the old transport museum at Clapham, which I believe had also influenced Dave. Not sure if Shirley was involved then, but I then seemed to be following Dave around the country, firstly down to Exeter, where he was building the large town part of Exe Valley or something like that, and when I moved up north, Dave and Shirley attended every Blackburn exhibition.

 

 

Must admit when I saw County Gate at Blackburn I was impressed, but it was a bit difficult seeing through the crowd. Some nice ideas like the SR verson of the Greek railcars.

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Edited because one word got bleeped, don't you love these politically correct computer programs.


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 19:54

Any idea what happened to these layouts?

#17 The Dorset Wanderer

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 20:19

County Gate was still at the auctioneers six months or so ago having not sold I believe

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 17:38

County Gate was still at the auctioneers six months or so ago having not sold I believe

 

I understood that the Auctioneers wanted to keep it put it on display.

Dave.