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I believe the books 'Great Western Steam in Cornwall' and 'More Great Western Steam in Cornwall' have pictures of 9717 shunting in Marazion Station though the dates are unreliable. I believe two photos have dates years apart but you can clearly see from the rolling stock in the background they were taken the same day. I think the latest suggested date was some time in the early 50s, I can't recall if it had a top feed or no but I'll have a look in my books when I get home. Doesn't help you with 1947 exactly, 9717 was in penzance from 49-54 but it's a little closer

I believe only the Welsh Lined Green Manors come with headboards, the rest do not

Now that is interesting, I've heard of locos being shed pets but not tenders before

I did, the main plan as it stands at the moment is to actually do a little earlier but with the option to run the layout a little later if the mood arises. I'm still gathering information, it's likely to be years before I can actually build the layout as the current house is far to small. Interesting you say you see lining on the tender, I hadn't spotted it before but I'll be looking again shortly. I'm a sucker for something unusual and this is unusual enough and local enough to tickle my interest. Thanks Mike, it's interesting how a lot of transition liveries were quickly done away with but some locos in even older pre-nationalisation liveries persisted for quite some time. Unfortunately I missed the operation of steam in Cornwall by well over 3 decades so I appreciate everyone's help in building a better understanding Many thanks Rhys

I won't post the image on the forum but I'd be happy to pm you the image after work if you'd like to take a look? Thanks Rhys

Thanks That's a shame, they look quite well proportioned behind most of the 2 cylinder 4-6-0s

Many thanks, I thought that would probably be the case but in a black and white photo it's hard to tell. I hope it wasn't green, I posed a Lined black loco with a green tender and it looked... strange. That's unfortunate, I'm currently looking for a Churchward tender to do 6809 but that will leave me with a small Collett Tender spare and having a lot of trouble finding a loco to pair it with. I can only find photos of them with Granges in the period buy even that seems unusual. Were they particularly rare tenders? What were they paired with? Apologies for asking every question under the sun, I've got so many but I'm trying to keep it reasonable haha I'll have a good look through those links Thanks Rhys

Questions about Halls So another question for the good folk who know their GWR 4-6-0s In the book 'Great Western Steam In Cornwall' on page 34 there is a picture of 5972 Olton Hall sat at Truro Station taking on water. The picture is undated but is most likely in the very early 1950s. The loco is in BR Lined black livery, the lining is very easy to make out on the cabside, the tender on the other hand does not appear to be lined and you can clearly make out 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' in written format and in the old Great Western shaded typeface. What I'm wondering is, is it more likely the tender is black or green? I would assume black but I have never seen a black tender with the shaded the early written 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' in the Great western typeface. If anyone else can offer an educated guess or another photograph of the loco at the time that would be fantastic. I like modelling oddities and this is an era and location appropriate oddity. While I have your attention, were any halls running with the Collett long fender 3500g tender that could have conceivably be seen in west Cornwall into the 1950s? Many thanks Miss Prism for the tender information link Thanks all Rhys

I shan't repeat the language I used when I read the announcement lest the good Mr York ban me for life but there were several outbursts of expletive joy! Now just decide which ones to get and how I can justify four of them to my wallet...

These are an entirely fictions livery and so represent a what if scenario. As described above the bar was only a film set but in this fictitious scenario where they received maroon livery why not say it had the bar as well. They look rather fetching in BR Maroon as mine turned up this morning and I've not stopped admiring them since

Received my email today for balance payment for my pair of tramcars. Apparently the BR Maroon ones have arrived and are nearly ready for dispatch Very much looking forward to these!

'They've made it!' The picture I've been planning for ages, I even bought a Star for this picture too. It had its first good run on a DCC layout today and was absolutely flawless. Sounds amazing and runs beautifully! Well done Rapido! My friends layout standing in for Mallingford (Temple Meads iirc) I played the 'Fortunate' file before hand of course

I love my Titfield set, it's getting its first run on a big dcc layout tomorrow but it has been flawless on my dc test. It looks amazing, sounds amazing and I cannot wait to give the whole set a proper running! I did spot something a little curious though. I slipped a fingernail under the Coal load to see if it was removable and sure enough it popped right off. Perfect fit adding real coal and there is rivet detail under the coal (along with two very small locating holes for the plastic coal) What is curious is it seems the plastic coal is fitted before the tender interior is sprayed. It looks to be un painted plastic. This is a non-issue for me, a very simple fix and hidden by either the plastic coal or a simple coat of black paint and real coal. It does seem a curious thing to miss though, especially after going to the effort of adding the rivet detail This does not detract from the model at all, it's still brilliant and I cannot wait for the Titfield tramcar (and the other two I've also ordered) and the Pearce and Crump Bus

Many thanks for the book suggestions. I have tracked down a copy of the Ian Sixsmith book and I'm sure it will be a very comprehensive resource! If I could ask another question, it lists tender numbers but not actually what they were (Collett/Churchward/3500g/4000g/etc) is there another resource that gives that I can use to translate the numbers into more information? Thanks again everybody!

The tender currently behind the loco is a Collett 3500G tender rather than a Churchward one. I have a Llanvair Grange with a Churchward tender on the way to do Arlington as it was the Penzance book photo. Can you recommend any books with good Grange photographs? Unfortunately I got it wrong, the Lined black Grange allocated to Penzance was 6809 rather than 19. Hopefully 09 had a Collett 3500G like 19

I agree, it should probably have 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' on the tender rather than a crest. A shame really as this livery actually looks rather fetching, if fictional. I might try to find photographs of a Grange in that condition with a Collett 3500G tender, as long as it could be seen in Cornwall I don't mind stretching my time period a bit earlier. Otherwise if I'm repainting black then this one is the obvious one to line. I think only two Granges recieved Lined black but one was shredded at Penzance in the 50s so it could well end up as that one, 6819 I think from memory. Again that could be tender dependant. Thanks everyone Rhys

Many thanks, I had considered perhaps it was just recrested GWR livery but I couldn't find any pictures and have no idea how common this practice was? For Arlington Grange I actually want to do it as was in a picture dated August 1957 in 'Penzance Railways in Photographs' by J.C.Way so it's actually a different combo altogether but the model was a bargain I wasn't about to turn down! I'm intending to build a model of Marazion Station in the mid/late 50s eventually but I'm very much in the information gathering stages at the moment. Many Thanks Rhys

For the hall livery query, see post further down dated 14/11/2023, thought I'd get a bit more use out of this thread. Original post below I'm calling all folk who are knowledgeable about the Grange class and, initially at least, the pioneer 6800 Arlington Grange. A few months ago I purchased a Hornby grange that had been renamed and renumbered as 6800 Arlington Grange. (I believe it started life as 6862 Derwent Grange in black with the 3500G tender) What has me wondering is it had clearly been repainted into unlined green but retaining the early crest. Did Arlington, or any other Grange, carry unlined early crest green at any point? I can't find any evidence in my searching so was it the previous owners flight of fancy or is there a factual basis? If its not prototypical I'll repaint it Unlined black again as a different Grange. Secondly, I'd love to know any other information anyone has to share about the Granges time working in Cornwall? Many thanks everyone

Thanks Steve, I'll have a look at that and see what will fit. Thanks Jason, the CCT set will be correct but it includes the transfers for the other wagons too which I don't need. Thanks for the allocation link though, that'll be perfect for nailing down the details of the one I'm looking at! Thanks everyone for your help, I've got a few things to look at now! Thanks Rhys

I know I'm resurrecting a long dormant thread but does anyone know where I can get transfers to reallocate a shunters truck? I see Cambridge Custom Transfers mentioned up thread but all I can see on the website is the sheet for the GWR Cambrian kits? Google brings up no other results though in sure someone must do them Thanks everyone

I can't answer your question directly but I do know it will depend partially on what you ordered. If it was one of the BR Black livery Manors I don't believe any of those have been dispatched yet to individuals or retailers alike

The book 'Great Western Steam in Cornwall' also includes a shot of 7814 Fringford Manor piloting a hall through Marazion Station in Summer 1949. According to the caption it was the Up Riviera. Its a front on shot but it has its BR smokebox number and shed plates so I would guess it was plain black? I'll be ordering 7814 for my future Cornish layout

My Nelliebosh is finally at a stage I'm happy to share so here it is. It started off as a green 27 and the chassis is that of a Dapol B4. The trailing wheel, I've no idea, came from the spares box. This was largely made up as I went along and there's still a little left to do but I'm pretty happy with how it's currently looking! First post on here for a while! Modelling has had to take a back seat for the last couple of years but as this little loco shows I've been ticking away at it when I can

The madness continuesI need to reposition the dome and fill (many many) gaps. The job list is still long. Most important is probably the rear truck is currently fixed and that makes a very long wheelbase so I need to change that. It's getting there though Thanks Rhys

I think theres hope yet, my cousins young son has a very keen interest in railways which I'm sure will continue to develop. He also calls me "the train man" of which I am very proud! There are quite a few younger people interested in the hobby, I know a few of them and I'm only 21 myself. I'm sure theres a future for it!