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    Mikkel

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    9 hours ago, Brassey said:

     

    The brown locos were painted well before 1908 in the early Churchward period and intended to match the contemporary Chocolate and Cream carriage stock.  The cabsides were originally cream as were the cab interiors.  There is at least one picture shewing the cream cabsides.   I lined mine in orange.

     

    IIRC some 850's got an overall coachlike body painted to match the carriages too.  I think the pics are in Edwardian Enterprise.

    Technically, then, those earlier repaints were into chocolate and cream, rather than all over brown, with it amended later to this.

     

    Yes, I recall seeing a photo showing cream cab sides, and thought how bad it would be at hiding the dirt!

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    Mikkel

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    Is it known to the contrary?

     

    Just because a few people on RMWeb have developed a pet theory without any evidence at all doesn’t make it historical fact. There has been a general consensus about brown for a number of years. All of a sudden, when no one is around who was alive at the time, people start to question things. Whilst I agree wholeheartedly that the consensus can be wrong, shouting loudly in disagreement without anything to substantiate it does count as evidence against the consensus.

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    Mikkel

    Posted · Edited by Regularity

    Several 517s were painted in chocolate brown, lined yellow-black-yellow, to match the auto coaches which had been painted in brown. They were known as “chocolate soldiers”. (For example references see the WSP book on the Abbotsbury Branch by Jackson.)

     

    To me, this provides rather more evidence that brown was actually used between 1908 and 1912 than does the speculation provided that actually it was red. I imagine that the all-over brown looked very nice when fresh, but looked rather too shabby after a couple of years, and that as repaints became due, it was changed to the red.

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    kitpw

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    1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said:

    Yes, chalk, not flour, and the word "pounce" is familiar.

     

    1 hour ago, Compound2632 said:

     

    Derived from the action of a domestic cat, leaving small holes in one's clothes and skin?


    Just remember to keep the “u” in the spelling and the pronunciation…

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    kitpw

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    8 hours ago, Miss Prism said:

     

    Leaving aside for one moment what the nature of these 'templates' was, edition 1 (which doesn't mention them as far as I can see) puts the date of the size changeover as 1920. How explicit is edition 2's '1921'?

    If they stopped using the 25” on 31.12.20, and began using the 16” on 1.1.21, then both editions would be correct… 

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    kitpw

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    26 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

    One point on which I've dithered is whether ironwork below the solebar should be red or black. Red would be consistent with practice in the post-1904 grey period; I can't see any change of hue where the brake V-hanger crosses the lower edge of the solebar. But on the other hand there are plenty of photos of well-worn Midland wagons where no boundary can be seen, though the part on the solebar was definitely grey and that below, black.

    I don’t think we’ll ever know, and photos don’t help as the emulsions on the plate glass negatives are very, very poor at distinguishing between red and black. I think a single colour is logical, as with post-1904 grey, just as you do, but others differ. I think we can do nothing other than make our own choices here.

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    wenlock

    Posted

    On 07/04/2022 at 11:16, Ruston said:

    Perhaps but then it would still be visible as shadow underneath with light coming through it, just as it does on the real thing. It's obviously not possible on normal plastic models so I think it would be great.

    Well, read the OP and respond to the intentions of the builder, as I did.

    Mikkel

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    11 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

     

    But that's generally true. They're a taciturn lot who keep their thoughts to themselves.

    Private thoughts, yes, but they are very friendly and I am far more likely to receive a friendly greeting than when I lived and worked further south, especially compared to when I lived in Surrey and worked in London.

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    Mikkel

    Posted · Edited by Regularity

    10 hours ago, kitpw said:

    The slogan came to mind on seeing Mikkel's video - but, yes, I think it's best forgotten now you remind me who delivered it.  Perhaps the moderator can erase the comment - I'm not sure how that's done.

    You report the post, and request deletion.

     

    Edit: you can also hide the post.

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