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  1. .. wire a decoder. Hornby R7274 4 Pin Decoder - what a disgrace!
  2. Well, I was also going to post that picture and ask "Would you buy one?" It beggars the imagination that the retailer concerned would actually post such a picture. Unbelievable.. Do Hornby prefitted locos come with decoders like this? Only one thing to do - rewire it yourself and possibly make use of the other capabilities available eg forward & reverse lights.
  3. I've just been updating my knowledge of DXDC chips, and the browser brought up your post. I'm wondering if you ever got this sorted. And did you try the Bachmann China site for the loco instruction sheet, assuming one didn't come with the loco?
  4. Only came across your layout when looking at a Warley YouTube video and as someone with a love of China and a very modest collection of Chinese outline stock was delighted to do so.  Well done.





      Can you send me a link please as the videos I've seen on RMweb don't include my layout.


      Thanks again

  5. Well, BRM Express has invited readers to join in on this topic, which I have been following with interest already. Though I havn't caught up with the last 24hrs comment. Good for Hornby! May their 2019 choices bring commercial reward as well pleasure to modellers. I'll be 80 in a couple of weeks time, and so you'll understand that I'm thinking more of thinning out my collection than adding to it. But, being primarily a Southern fan as far as passenger workings are concerned, I may well decide to buy a Bulleid shortie set. Having upgraded my rake of Bachmann 63' stock - flush windows, bogie running boards - it's unlikely that I'll replace them with the forthcoming re-tooled versions. I'll need to take a close look at Hornby's treatment of the window vents, though, as something looked odd to me about them on one of their recent releases.
  6. So I decided to check the loco & motor wiring on a 2-rail HD loco - in this case BR(S) "R1" 0-6-0 tank model 2206 dating from the early 1960s (only 55+ years since purchase, and still on our layout). Electrically it should be an easy hardwire DCC conversion. If the photo uploads correctly you can see - A a tag connecting to the chassis (which is Left Rail) B a green wire from the Right Rail wheel pick ups C the brush spring arm which is already insulated from a motor brush D the brush spring arm which will require insulation from the other motor brush I don't know how common this design was amongst HD 2-rail locos, or when it was introduced. I doubt the HD/Wrenn models had different motors installed.
  7. Hi Captain Kirk. To answer yr last question - yes there are sound decoders which will provide excellent results on analogue DC layouts. They are designed for both DCC and DC, and are found amongst the decoders with the very best features. Leading brands for which sounds of UK locos are available are ESU Loksound and Zimo, and there may be others with which I am not familiar. Many UK suppliers but do your research regarding the quality of the sound projects before shortlisting for purchase, and maybe then write to say that you intend to operate on DC. What will you get, and what will you miss, on DC? DCC controllers offer you a range of Function buttons which allow you to activate specific sounds like the whistle or horn. Some projects feature as many as 15 or even 20 Function-called sounds, and I wonder how many are actually used in practice. Your DC controller has no means of triggering these Function calls. What you get on both DCC and DC are the basic motive power and braking sounds - varying with speed and load - plus Random sounds such as water injector, coal shovelling, etc as steam loco examples. The technology exists for "superimposing" DCC Function calls over a DC supply though the special boxes for accomplishing this may only work for certain decoders. An example would be DCMaster for the US "Blueline" locos which also addressed ESU Loksound ver3.5 decoders but not the subsequent ver4 (and presumed the imminent ver5) decoders. DCMaster allowed activation of Horn/Whistle, Bell, an Auxiliary output, and Sound Volume on the then-customary US Function call allocations. You could enquire of Gaugemaster as they may have a more modern unit capable of "true" simulated DCC Function call on DC. Final comment. UK loco sound projects are sold by the various suppliers in such a way that elements are copywrite protected. That means that some things cannot be changed except by the supplier holding the original project file. Depending on your skills and inclination you might wish to incorporate a flickering firebox light to accompany coal shovelling within Random sounds. Request that from the outset, and you are future-proofing your purchase for future owners as well as yourself - any additional cost should be trivial as it is so simply accomplished. The difficulties of converting a 2-rail Wrenn Pacific has been mentioned. I have a feeling that at least in their closing years HD and HD/Wrenn locos were constructed such that a DCC conversion was easier.
  8. Using both the BR Database and Wikipedia, and we know that Wiki is not always reliable, I came up with the following - 1914 Became 0488 1917 sold to Ministry of Munitions went to EKR in WW1? 1946 re-purchased by Southern Rlwy and numbered 3488 so someone out there believes 488 was used by a military Ministry. I would think if this was true, she would have most likely been painted in a drab colour of some kind.
  9. I'd like to learn more about this sound project, having just purchased one. On the ESU Loksound Lokprogrammer the sound descriptions all come up in German, so I'm wondering if ESU selected the sounds from their fairly extensive library of European sound files. But my immediate need is to sort out why the volume set as maximum on CV63 is far too low - that's why I'm exploring this forum now to see if I can get a clue from others who had the same experience!
  10. Have a look at DC Master - you should be able to find them at US suppliers, if not in UK, and on the leading online auction site. It is designed for accessing DCC decoders (including 4 Function calls) on AnalogueDC-controlled layouts. So with it you can change CVs as mentioned wrt acceleration etc, and - from memory - F1, F3, F4 & F8 buttons which allow you to sound the whistle etc to add to the "chuff" or diesel motor sounds, and random sounds, you have already experienced. You should be able to download the DC Master instruction book to study which will explain what the product does. You simply insert the DC Master between the output from your DC controller and the track. You may need to check the type and version of the sound decoder fitted to your loco and then enquire if DC Master will fully work with it. You may find a similar product available from Gaugemaster. Not all DCC sound fitted locos provide the basic sounds on DC you experience with your Jinty, so well done Bachmann. The sound chip will need about 5 or 6v to bring the sound circuits in, and that may be more important than the CV acceleration setting in explaining the behaviour comparison with non-sound DCC-chipped locos. I use several DC Masters on my layout. Their cost has probably increased since I bought them several years ago, when they were about £20-25 each. The Function buttons actuate ESU Loksound ver3.5 decoders, but I believe not the current V4 type. If you want to change CVs, a 2nd hand DC Master might well be your cheapest option.
  11. Well, I've come rather late with my comment to this post! On the model, Kernow have provided "removable" or "placeable" headcode discs - their only option at 4mm/ft. On the real locos, the headcodes were made up not of removeable discs per se, but of permanent discs one half of which was foldable on horizontal hinges. From memory (photos would confirm) they showed black when the tops were folded down, and white when they were up. The question of how the crew treated the rear of the loco when coupled to the train is of course another issue - and perhaps the true nature of the question originally asked.
  12. For anyone following this topic, I recently read the sentence below in the Mark Bowman paper "SR Co-Co Electric / BR Class 70 - The Southern Railway C-C Booster Electric Class 70 Locomotive". I have also read somewhere that they were very noisy when eg passing through a station pulling a freight. Even while stationary, Class 70 produced a noticeable droning noise due to the booster-set turning inside the body." Re the Class 71s (early numbers E5000 on), Arthur Tayler in his "Lifetime in Traction" book says - "The control gear for these locomotives was a logical development of the earlier Co-Co locomotives. A single motor-generator booster set fed four fully suspended traction motors.." As time allows I'll continue researching this; I feel a sound recording of either a Co-Co or Class 71 must exist somewhere. And when time allows I will refresh my memory of what might be added to a sound project on a Loksound decoder when the original project file is not available.
  13. I've been looking at some of the ESU Fan & Ventilator files, and it is really interesting to check them out. To do so you need to download both the earlier version of Lokprogrammer s/w - ver 2.7.9 - (found here : http://www.esu.eu/en/downloads/software/lokprogrammer/) and one of the sound files, say, 6184 (http://www.esu.eu/en/downloads/sounds/generation-3/loksound-sound-library/). 1) Open Lokprogrammer 2.7.9 2) Choose "Open an existing project file" and click "Next" 3) Use "Browse" to find sound file eg 6184 which carries the name 06184-LSV35-Single Sounds-Ventilators1.esu, then "Open" & "Next" 4) Select "Sound" at the foot of the Left Hand Column options 5) Now select "User Sounds". At the top expect to see two rows of 8 boxes labelled Slots 1-16, 14 of which are blue. At the right you should also see a list of individual WAV files, in groups of three eg 01 German Radiator VT11-5 6) Click on one of the Blue boxes (expect to see the one chosen with a red outline) and a pop-up box appears showing the three related files. 7) There are two symbols near the RH top corner of the pop-up box - the one coloured green plays the three files in turn - "init(ial)", "loop", and "exit". 8) Check out these 14 options - I reckon one could use one or two of them to represent a Class 70 or 71 Booster. ESU Files 6181 "Compressors" and 6205 "Ventilators2" would provide further possible options from which to choose. With a knowledge of the situations when the Boosters "cut in" and the special skills it takes to create a sound project, as long as there is available memory on your decoder, the 3 chosen "Booster" WAV files could be incorporated. One of the easiest ways of using the Booster would be to allocate it to a separate Function Key, the operator then deciding when to use it. Be warned! Building sound projects using Lokprogrammer has a steep learning curve, but is quite addictive. Best place to start is by using a complete downloaded ESU sound project which you can then tinker with.
  14. I see the point you are making. I think you're right that if you don't have the data file of the project loaded into your decoder by your supplier, then you would not be able to add a further sound element to it, even if the decoder still had enough free memory to allow it. So don't go out and buy the Lokprogrammer hardware just yet! However, if you had a WAV file of the sound element which would really enhance the project, the company who sold you the decoder might be willing to incorporate it for you and re-blow your decoder. The Lokprogrammer software is a free download. It would take time listening to the demo sounds of all ESU's Continental & N American Electric locos, but if you heard anything sounding like a Class 71 booster you could then download the project file for the loco concerned and after loading it into the Lokprogrammer s/w copy out the WAV file(s) of the element you found. If you go here, for example, you can play ESU's demonstration for the famous Swiss Krokodil loco: http://projects.esu.eu/projectoverviews/1?page=4&count=10&order=date&type=all&country=ch&cat=1 We could start another topic running again by asking why N American & Continental markets have so many free Loksound files available, whereas we in UK are beholden to buying non-accessible files from the decoder suppliers..
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