Adams442T Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Just received an email from Oxford Rail which says that the late BR 30583 will be released next week at £99.95. If it has, as appears from the preview photos, some detail issues, and most importantly for me no 'daylight' under the boiler I will be waiting for the Hornby one. Fortunately I'm only interested in the LSWR version, and I guess by the time that comes out all the failings will be well examined. A shame if Oxford have missed the mark on such an important release as I think it would have been good for the market to have a new manufacturer of high specification models to challenge Hornby/Bachmann, etc. For some I guess the price differential will be important enough to garner sufficient sales for Oxford, and it may well turn out to be a reliable and excellent runner. We shall see. Interestingly Kernow have all the Radials listed with images, admittedly NOT photographs, showing daylight under the boiler, and priced at £84.95, some £35.00 cheaper. Dear me the plot thickens................... Edited November 19, 2015 by Adams442T 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted November 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2015 Perhaps this is unfair but I was somewhat underwhelmed by the images of the Oxford Rail version I have recently viewed online and will wait until the Hornby version arrives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2015 Perhaps this is unfair but I was somewhat underwhelmed by the images of the Oxford Rail version I have recently viewed online and will wait until the Hornby version arrives Judging from Oxfords own photos, if it was painted yellow, you'd be right in thinking it's a flying banana - with that curved running plate and cabside wings (sorry handrails) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) I thought they look very nice. These pics are Rails' versions, vignette and a little track added, nothing else. Cheers Edited November 21, 2015 by Andy Y Images removed - copyright issue (and it's a different manufacturer). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Sorry Andy you are quite right. I still think they look good, cruelty of modern cameras and all. Don't you ever sleep Andy? Edited November 22, 2015 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Perhaps this is unfair but I was somewhat underwhelmed by the images of the Oxford Rail version I have recently viewed online and will wait until the Hornby version arrives Are you talking about the image on Muz's page and the pics in Rails' ad? I think it looks great, fine detail all there, cylinder drains on fine mouldings, and the lack of light under the boiler, well, it's barely noticeable on prototype photos. But as Andy points out, it's not a subject for a Hornby thread, or is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 From "The Engine Shed" Wheels look odd, but a beautiful loco nonetheless. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Looks FANTASTIC! !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 . I just got an attack of nostalgia - it reminds me of the illustration in the (very) old Wrenn catalogue. . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2015 Yet another pre-group loco that looks far better in BR lined black. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Look at those handrail knobs!!!!!!@@@!!! Though more expensive and not until next year but I am glad I decided to wait for Hornbys Radial. To my eyes a superior product to Oxfords. Rob. Edited November 28, 2015 by nhy581 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2015 See here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted November 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2015 Are you talking about the image on Muz's page and the pics in Rails' ad? I think it looks great, fine detail all there, cylinder drains on fine mouldings, and the lack of light under the boiler, well, it's barely noticeable on prototype photos. But as Andy points out, it's not a subject for a Hornby thread, or is it? As I have just seen both Oxford and Hornby versions at the NEC,I stand by my original decision. I will wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted November 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) A couple of photos of the Adams Radial taken today at Warley. I think the Hornby version looks good, they have got the bend over the smokebox door looking more like the real thing which helps the front view. the LSWR coaches looked absolutely fabulous. best wishes Godfrey Edited November 29, 2015 by Godfrey Glyn 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2015 Hornby look to have got it spot on. Always my preferred option of the two producing Radials I will wait. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2015 A couple of photos of the Adams Radial taken today at Warley. I think the Hornby version looks good, they have got the bend over the smokebox door looking more like the real thing which helps the front view. the LSWR coaches looked absolutely fabulous. best wishes Godfrey Does this mean that the previous announcement of R3333 as 30584 in early BR plain black lettered British Railways has been changed or is this an extra version? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Looks fantastic, aside from the cab roof fitting bit a bit odd. Also, slight mould seam a third of the way round the boiler (what happened to the prototypical top join we used to have on models?) Wheels on 488 seem a little 'bright' compared to the rest of the loco body. Aside, a wonderful recreation of an Adams Radial.... I will be ordering. The front and rear bogie wheels capture the shape of the prototype very well, and quite a notable feature of the real thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I'll be adding a couple of these to my shopping list. SR olive for the layout, and the preserved/pre-grouping livery for the display cabinet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) If only it were that simple.......I can see me buying five......3x Br...1x L&SWR and 1x SR.......bu@#er!! Robbed... Edited November 30, 2015 by nhy581 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams442T Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I don't know if others have missed this but on the Hornby website they are listing 30583, late BR livery (due 30/09/2016), and also of much more interest to me, an SR version, 3125 (due 30/09/2016), plus a 'Limited Edition' Lyme Regis Branch Line Train Pack, consisting of 30583, lined black, early crests, and ex-LSWR brake third, and a brake composite. This last 'estimated' to arrive 31/08/2016. It certainly seems that Hornby, perhaps following the Oxford Rail offering turning out to be less than perfect, are going flat out to offer all the combinations that one could want, though it's also interesting that the price is now proposed to be £124.99 for the locos, and £204.00 for the train pack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted January 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2016 Has the price of the coaches come out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2016 I think its reasonable to assume a rough figure of some £40.00 each. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I wonder if on the finished article, Hornby will manage to get the chimney to "sit" a bit more convincingly on the smokebox? The photos of the samples at Warley all show the base of the chimney with a thick flange that doesn't look at all like the prototype. They've done a much better job with the dome, judging by the photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams442T Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I wonder if on the finished article, Hornby will manage to get the chimney to "sit" a bit more convincingly on the smokebox? The photos of the samples at Warley all show the base of the chimney with a thick flange that doesn't look at all like the prototype. They've done a much better job with the dome, judging by the photos. I spoke to them at Warley about the same subject and they did say that the Radials on show were pre-production models, and further refining would take place before actual production. So fingers crossed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) These images confirm my choice to go with the Hornby model, if they eventually do the livery I'd like – the later LSWR olive. I'm sure it was this livery that I saw the Bluebell loco carry when it was in steam in the early to mid 1980's. I was reading a very old Railway Modeller that had an EM Gauge Lyme Regis based layout. The article and the layout was a favourite of mine that had stuck in my mind from the dim distant past hence my digging out the old magazine. I can recall marvelling at the kit built locos and coaches used on the model back-in-the-day – now they are almost all available or shortly to be available R-T-R. Edited January 3, 2016 by Anglian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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