RMweb Gold Regularity Posted December 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 8, 2017 3D: the media’s way to make everyone look like a complete knobstick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted December 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 11, 2017 I assume that the best way to find out how the GWR termed its locos is to look at one of its publications - for boys of all ages. As it happens I don't have any, but I am sure there are individuals here who do. And while talking about smelly green or blue boxes, it annoys me when the class numbers are used for the locos or DMUs during the period before they had been adopted (the classes not the vehicles). Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I think you're meant to look at it through 3D spectacles... I just assumed they had used an old 110 camera, most of my spotting photos from the 90's look similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 And while talking about smelly green or blue boxes, it annoys me when the class numbers are used for the locos or DMUs during the period before they had been adopted (the classes not the vehicles). Jonathan I'm sorry to annoy you then, Jonathan, but I find it not only a useful form of shorthand but a means of description widely understood. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I just assumed they had used an old 110 camera, most of my spotting photos from the 90's look similar. Take a look at the current cover of 'Private Eye' dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Well, I just get confused when people: (a) Talk of the locomotives introduced by companies that were destined, in some far future time called "1923", to be Grouped into the LNER, using their post-Grouping class designations, even when talking of them in a pre-Grouping context. I don't speak LNER. (b) When people go all "BCK" on me, even when talking of pre-Nationalised coaching stock. I don't speak BR, either. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2017 Well, I just get confused when people: (a) Talk of the locomotives introduced by companies that were destined, in some far future time called "1923", to be Grouped into the LNER, using their post-Grouping class designations, even when talking of them in a pre-Grouping context. I don't speak LNER. (b) When people go all "BCK" on me, even when talking of pre-Nationalised coaching stock. I don't speak BR, either. (a) It doesn't help when they paint them black, either. (b) I think that's a bogie corridor brake composite - but it might be a brake composite with kitchen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (a) It doesn't help when they paint them black, either. (b) I think that's a bogie corridor brake composite - but it might be a brake composite with kitchen? It could be 'Black Cat or Kitten' for all I know! For me it's a bit like learning metric - it holds no advantage over the system I do understand and I so much can't be @rsed ! Only LNW and LCD locomotives should be black, and then only if clean, polished and lined! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2017 The Midland's Bristol-Bradford and London-Manchester square-light clerestory sets of 1896/7 included some carriages that break the system. How to describe a bogie carriage with corridor connection at one end, a first class restaurant saloon (with access to lavatories) and third class compartments (some with access to a lavatory)? CRFOTL(0.5K)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2017 Only LNW and LCD locomotives should be black, and then only if clean, polished and lined! SER? L&YR? Cambrian? H&BR? - but likewise. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Only LNW and LCD locomotives should be black, and then only if clean, polished and lined! Or CR non-westinghouse fitted ones, or westinghouse fitted and condensing ones, or the two 0-8-0 classes! Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Or CR non-westinghouse fitted ones, or westinghouse fitted and condensing ones, or the two 0-8-0 classes! Jim SER? L&YR? Cambrian? H&BR? - but likewise. Fair enough! .... or ... what he said! or NER from 190?, or GER for various categories at various times (unlined goods black for 1905!). The point, I think, is that people have no business painting locos black when they were supposed to be other colours! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted December 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2017 There’s black, and then there’s blackberry black. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I would like to find out if Cambrian Rlys Invisible Green come in as black. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I would like to find out if Cambrian Rlys Invisible Green come in as black. Marc Dunno, can't see it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) I would like to find out if Cambrian Rlys Invisible Green come in as black. In and out, or out and in (shake it all about) Green is Green and Black is Black, Then again the Green Man Festival at Brecon serves an excellent Sharp's Dark, The Cambrian Rlys can be ... Oh, let's have another pint..... http://www.visitwales.com/things-to-do/whats-on/festivals/green-man-festival Edited December 14, 2017 by Penlan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted December 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2017 I would like to find out if Cambrian Rlys Invisible Green come in as black. Marc Marc, It probably depends on what light you see it in. I always thought black was black but Humbrol have various shades of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 57xx(x) are post grouping, so off topic. Definately Edited December 15, 2017 by Talltim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2017 Topic reset - proper loco in a proper livery... 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted December 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) It's all very well having Pre-Grouping Pedants Weekly, but... Which week? What day of the week is circulation to start? It's all going wrong. Even the ballast on the French picture last time was wrong. And, as for the 2 birds flying about, they had the wrong plumage. And while we're on the subject, what about Mansell wheels? I know a bloke called Mansell, and he's a piano tuner. I think I need to lie down. "Nurse! The screens! No! not he white ones! The green ones, with the yellow framing, and Regency castors, and no higher than 2.007 metres..." Pedants......? Edited December 15, 2017 by tomparryharry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted December 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2017 Topic reset - proper loco in a proper livery... 1001b.jpg Not sure I would call that green invisible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted December 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2017 People talking BR? I didn't know that many Barry Railway modellers on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted December 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2017 Marc, It probably depends on what light you see it in. I always thought black was black but Humbrol have various shades of it. When I was working, the company produced plastic chips for sale to moulders who make parts for the car industry. IIRC we had something like 40 shades of black and over 50 shades of.......................................... (wait for it) White 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 and over 50 shades of.......................................... (wait for it).... aaargh We'll be having "A Fairy Tale of New York" blaring through our RMweb thread speakers next dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted December 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2017 Happy to oblige. https://g.co/kgs/pGDuz5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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