jwealleans Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Quote a high speed full-frontal impact then... There's no place for half measures here. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, jwealleans said: There's no place for half measures here. Every good layout needs at least one hammer for fettling. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Anyhow... Time for some pictures from an exhibition. Here we are, at start of the day yesterday when most of my pictures were taken. With a good complement of operators, I went linesiding for the first hour and there will be a sequence of pictures in subsequent posts with the results. At busy times, we were gratifyingly two or three deep out the front, folks seemed to enjoy the regular procession of trains, following the rolling time period sequence from early 1950s to 1967 (repeat, ad nauseam). Very pleasant to have the company of Madame 'tricoteuse' Wealleans ... ... however, not such a good idea to ask her to provide explanations to the public, who have duly scattered to the four corners of the SEC, save for one young viewer. ONLY JOKING! What this view does show is the running order info for interested viewers (top left) More to follow once I've reluctantly done some 'real' work... Edited February 24, 2020 by LNER4479 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted February 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2020 Please tell me someone can identify the guy yawning in the second photo! 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bogie said: Please tell me someone can identify the guy yawning in the second photo! He's not yawning, he's just aghast that the locomotive has not had the appropriate amount of grease applied to the buffers for March 15th 1954 1 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 Decent bit of video of us at approx. 7 mins in, courtesy of DCC125 on YouTube. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerG Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Many thanks for bringing the layout up to Glasgow at the weekend. I spent a thoroughly enjoyable time watching the sequence unfurl and was particularly impressed by both the forced perspectives (small telegraph poles and cracking backscene) and the working, interlinked point rodding between the catch point and up main point where the banker occasionally sat. Inspirational. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted February 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, LNER4479 said: Decent bit of video of us at approx. 7 mins in, courtesy of DCC125 on YouTube. Congratulations, that is one superb layout, Patriots, Jubilees, Crabs, Black Fives, even the Duke......takes me back to when steam ruled supreme, many thanks,,,,,,Rgds Mike 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) OK, the first pictures are back from the developers... The sequence starts with a 'statement of intent', namely the 1930s LMS demo train - if Hornby's release date for the full Coronation Scot set of coaches come to pass then by this time next year this will be the full Blue n Silver apparition. Just gotta be done... For the time being, No.6225 'Duchess of Gloucester' crests the summit with a lightweight express. We now move to 1952(-ish) and here our 'new' train, the afternoon Carlisle-Oxenholme stopping train - formed from a NE Region set borrowed off a Newcastle-Carlisle service - heads down the bank. Coming the other way ... One of the 'star' trains (well, I think so), the early 1950s 'Royal Scot', a full MkI 'Festival of Britain' set, seen on the Shap Wells embankment, is headed by Polmadie Duchess 46224 'Princess Alexandra', heading for home. A quick sprint to the summit (ha!) for another view of the train. I must put on record the contribution of the 'hand of Wright' in relation to this train. 46224 has been repeatedly objecting to being asked to work this train (can't think why?), slipping and slithering about on the incline and then mangling her valve gear. Well, a visit to Tony's loco clinic resulted in a stern talking to and she then worked faultlessly all weekend. Thanks Tony! Another classic LMR WCML train, the Midday Scot is the most prestigious 'Up' train and was entrusted over the weekend to none other than 71000 'Duke of Gloucester'. The work of Roy Mears, this loco is on temporary loan and - unlike the prototype in the BR era - acquitted herself (himself?) very well. A more expansive view of the train, another 11 coach formation. Of note is the fifth vehicle, the D.1697 kitchen car, flanked by first and third opens. You might JUST be able to make out that the final vehicle is in a different livery, namely a WR Choc n Cream BCK representing the Glasgow-Plymouth through coaches that were conveyed on this service north of Crewe. Bit of an anomaly - should really be some ex-GWR stock in the standard blood n custard at this time. This set now just needs its roof boards and a headboard for the loco. And now our first banked train, a typical 1950s lengthy express goods train. The loco is - for now - an out-of-the-box Stanier 'crab' 2-6-0, high priority for individualising. Just dropping off the rear however is already personalised Fowler 2-6-4T banker No. 42424, a resident of Tebay shed for 30 years. This and most of these pictures were taken 'live' so this is an action shot, hence the blurred appearance of the wagons nearest the camera. You can just see the target board on the front of the loco - Tebay shed trip working No.92. Within minutes, the loco is freewheeling back down the bank towards Tebay. I panned on this to try and catch the loco in focus ... not displeased with the result. No.42424 now just needs a visit to the weathering shop and all will be well. Next train up the bank is a fully fitted, limited load, entrusted to a Patriot without banking assistance. Another loco in the queue for blinging... 45543 'Home Guard' ends this first set of pictures, taking her leave of us at the summit. Back with another clutch tomorrow, all being well. Edited February 24, 2020 by LNER4479 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 hours ago, LNER4479 said: One of the 'star' trains (well, I think so), the early 1950s 'Royal Scot', a full MkI 'Festival of Britain' set, seen on the Shap Wells embankment, is headed by Polmadie Duchess 46224 'Princess Alexandra', heading for home. A blue loco hauling crimson-and-cream coaches is hard to beat. 9 hours ago, LNER4479 said: Bit of an anomaly - should really be some ex-GWR stock in the standard blood n custard at this time. A Hornby Hawksworth BCK would do as a stop-gap. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 21 hours ago, LNER4479 said: Anyhow... Time for some pictures from an exhibition. There was me expecting a suite of ten pieces (plus a recurring, varied Promenade) and all I got was a bunch of snaps of trains. What a rotten swizz, I tell you. 1 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted February 25, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Continuing our run through the schedule, we're still in the classic 1950s steam era. I had to be quick to catch the Up Royal Scot accelerating down the bank with Tom's 46232 'Duchess of Montrose' in charge. At Greenholme bridge it meets the combined Glasgow / Edinburgh express. Here's the latter train in its wider view. This is the third of three full blood n custard rakes but note the difference with this one - not a MkI in sight. This was a less prestigious train so was not upgraded with MkI stock until the late 1950s. So that allows us free reign to make it a glorious mix of LMS stock, centred around a 12-wheeled restaurant car. As well as Stanier stock, earlier Period I and Period II vehicles can be seen, a mix of RTR and kit built, three of us contributing. Also of note is that this is the second banked train of the sequence. Nothing more than a Jubilee were usually allocated to these workings. A game crew would 'go for it' - but I've chosen this to be a banked train for a bit of variety as all other banked trains are goods / freight workings. Iain's renumbered Bachmann Jubilee 45584 'North West Frontier' is at the business end. We move forward a few years now to witness the Birmingham-Glasgow express tackle the bank unaided behind Barry's K's kit built 46210 'Lady Patricia'*. Now all but two coaches are in the newer maroon livery and the loco has the revised emblem. The core formation is an eight car set, with a Stanier 12-wheel restaurant car as the dining provision; the load is made up to ten with a full brake and a Period I all third strengthener behind the tender (*Lady Patricia was a granddaughter of Queen Victoria, originally Princess Patricia of Connaught, relinquishing her royal title when she got married. I just googled that. Educational as well) Hard on its heels is the large Crewe-Carlisle parcels which is double-headed to tackle the incline. Iain's 70044 'Earl Haig' leads. This is a popular viewpoint, showing the full length of the incline. Reaching the so called 'bridge of sighs' (in the sense of 'almost there!' - someone told me that over the weekend), is the third banked train, my full van train. Banking assistance is provided by Barry's Fairburn tank, having just slackened off the pushing effort as the main train accelerates away ... into the fiddle yard. The way the schedule was working out, the previous Fowler banker (from the Glasgow / Edinburgh express) has recessed so this is a depiction of the time when the Fairburns finally usurped the Fowler bankers after their 30 year reign on Shap. And now we have another prestige train. None other than the Euston-Glasgow 'Caledonian' express, introduced by the LMR in 1957 as their response to the ER 'Talisman' service. This is VIRTUALLY the correct formation (we don't yet have the correct Stanier Brake First at the London end) but otherwise carries the correct roof boards etc. The 'star turn' is 'Sir's 46245 'City of London', a DJH kit build on account of the loco's appearance at Little Bytham on her 1963 ECML railtour. However, Camden's finest is kindly being made available for Shap exhibition outings and doesn't she just look the part? Within a few years, the magnificent Duchesses were regulated to freight workings and here is our last sighting of one, my No.46248 'City of Leeds' slipping down the bank and into history with the 'Maiden Lane' fast, perishables working. Coming the other way is 45736 'Phoenix' on the Perth Express, recreating the 1964 scene that my father captured on his cine camera (see BRM March 2020 digital edition!) Tomorrow night - the diesels appear! Edited February 25, 2020 by LNER4479 39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2020 I found the sides for my Stanier pdIII Brake First just before I .left on holiday....should I build that next?? Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Barry O said: I found the sides for my Stanier pdIII Brake First just before I .left on holiday....should I build that next?? Baz Sounds like it to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 Needs to be pre-war Stanier, ie non-Porthole. There's always those Period IIs in LMS livery for 1930s Midday Scot... (oops - did I give something away there?) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: Needs to be pre-war Stanier, ie non-Porthole. There's always those Period IIs in LMS livery for 1930s Midday Scot... (oops - did I give something away there?) No, you're quite safe there, nobody reads this rubbish!! MIke. 2 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: Needs to be pre-war Stanier, ie non-Porthole. There's always those Period IIs in LMS livery for 1930s Midday Scot... (oops - did I give something away there?) No problemo...but dragging myself awat from 28C, sun and great pies and wine may be difficult! Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS29 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Barry O said: No problemo...but dragging myself awat from 28C, sun and great pies and wine may be difficult! Baz You'll soon come down to earth when you feel the cold Yorkshire air. Tom 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) And so for the third and last set of pictures illustrating the sequence. We're now well into the 1960s and here the fourth of the banked trains growls up the bank behind a EE Type 4, assisted in the rear by a Std 4MT 4-6-0. The eagle-eyed might recognise that this is in fact the Joueff version, which I acquired over 20 years. Provided its wheels are kept clean, it just keeps going, albeit not very fast. The tank wagons are Tom's work. The next banked train is one of the 'star' turns, our recreation of the well-known Halewood-Bathgate car trains, transporting new Ford Anglias and Cortinas to the Scottish distribution centre. Steam locos almost literally digging their own graves. For a bit of a change, we used an Ivatt 'Flying Pig' 4MT 2-6-0 as the banker on this turn. They were allocated to Tebay at the time but weren't often seen in use as bankers; they tended to work the local pick up goods turns (see below). Back down the bank she goes, encountering the Ammonia train heading up the bank unaided. The tankers are again Tom's work. He used to work for ICI you know. The Freightliner train slips down the bank ... with two rather distinctive containers included. Hmmm! Well, we were in the land of the caramel wafer, my favourites (other chocolate bars are available) The steam railtour. This working is cycled round between 3 locos. Here, newly preserved 7029 'Clun Castle' recreates the 'Castle to Carlisle' railtour of October 1967. The chasing car didn't quite get there quick enough. Aha - there's that pick up goods. Based on a Derek Cross photo at this spot, it ambles down the bank, within a mile of its destination. The Ivo Peters visiting party duly takes note. And this is the final (sixth) banked train of the sequence, a nameless Brit assisted by Tebay's filthy 75039. This train is an example of the banker being there for protection purposes as much as anything as any self-respecting 7MT should otherwise be able to manage this modest load. But note the raft of unfitted 16T mineral wagons, meaning that the latter half of the train is unbraked. Nowadays a somewhat maligned term, 'Modern Image' is probably the best description of this train at the time, the finale of the sequence. The anonymous 1967 Royal Scot is our only full blue / grey rake, including two of the new-fangled MkII coaches. The times they are a-changing... Hope you enjoyed them. And now I believe that nice Mr Wealleans is standing by with his own take on the weekend. Edited February 26, 2020 by LNER4479 35 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2020 13 hours ago, Barry O said: great pies Where did you find those? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, LNER4479 said: The eagle-eyed might recognise that this is in fact the Joueff version, which I acquired over 20 years. These made an important contribution to the late, but possibly not lamented, Hartford Junction project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TerryBewdley Posted February 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2020 Stunning layout thanks for sharing 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2020 8 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Where did you find those? Invercargill.. fat barsteward pies... Naked seafood Magic mushroom and steak Very nice.. We have also tried venison bolognaise and cheese and the standard steak and cheese Baz 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jwealleans Posted February 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2020 I do indeed have a few souvenirs of our trip abroad. This is the first time I've operated the layout properly (I did a lunchtime when it still had the Grantham fiddle yard) and it all worked very well, I thought. It even developed over the course of the weekend, which made things interesting. My primary photographic brief, though, was to record Roy's 71000. Roy may be familiar to some as the creator of the principal carriage rakes on Grantham, but he builds a pretty damn decent loco too. You may detect a common theme in what follows..... Recorded by a man on a very fast bicycle (or an early drone), the Duke comes down the Hill. This last one is the kind of shot my camera isn't really very good at, but I thought it worked OK in black and white. More to follow. No prizes for guessing where the Duke may be going next..... 20 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 36 minutes ago, jwealleans said: More to follow. No prizes for guessing where the Duke may be going next..... Cashmore's, useless heap of junk.... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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