andi4x4 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: As said on the Layout tour Andy, the Hall is at one end, and the Front Drive at the other, so no where to go. No room down the side way either. How about a curved fiddle stick from the branch curving round towards the corner where the cabin sits on Bench Road ? Might not even need to curve round that much, only needs to accomodate that one train. Admittedly, it would prevent the existing fiddle yard setup from being moved when in place, but, it might offer an option ..... Regards Andi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Andrew P said: Thanks ? / Winslow Boy, if you Tag or ask Ian on his thread, I'm pretty sure hi will know which Video it was on, I think 140 comes to mind, but can't be sure now. 12 hours ago, Winslow Boy said: Very, and when I say very I mean VERY impressive Mr Bodgit. You did have me a bit concerned when you posted your first couple of photos as the sides looked out of alignment but I needn't have feared as after you had worked your magic with the paint brush they looked absolutely fabulous. Really excellent job by the master himself. Even inspired me to go and have a look for Ian's video but wasn't able to find it. here’s part 1 of the turbot project 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Temeraire said: Simple Andy, into the hall and through the house to the garden, back down the side and large curve on the driveway and back in the other end! whilst tunnelling through the wall into the hall, might as well run a line to the kitchen for supplies Edited March 30, 2021 by 47606odin 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, andi4x4 said: How about a curved fiddle stick from the branch curving round towards the corner where the cabin sits on Bench Road ? Might not even need to curve round that much, only needs to accomodate that one train. Admittedly, it would prevent the existing fiddle yard setup from being moved when in place, but, it might offer an option ..... Regards Andi Nice idea Andi, but once again there would be no room to either run into the other curved Fiddle Yard, or access the Loop to be able to run around or shunt the Yard. The reality is that the room is a stupid short size, for decent length Trains in O Gauge. Edited March 30, 2021 by Andrew P 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 On a glorious morning, 56047 sits quietly in Seven Mills Sidings. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2021 The Answer is simple by an old van park it really close to the POD. storage yard goes into the van. Access through a tunnel from the disused station road. Peronally I think it would be too much faff getting out to go into the van to access the trains so I would bother. It would probably be the most practical solution but would it be worth it? Don 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Donw said: The Answer is simple by an old van park it really close to the POD. storage yard goes into the van. Access through a tunnel from the disused station road. Peronally I think it would be too much faff getting out to go into the van to access the trains so I would bother. It would probably be the most practical solution but would it be worth it? Don I have a wife, and value life. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Actually it needs a bit more lateral thinking guys - if the layout doesn't fit the train, then make the train fit the layout. Andy you just need to do a cut and shut on the turbots and remove the centre section out of each and glue them back together. Might look a bit odd but it would fit. ha ha! Paul R 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, pwr said: Actually it needs a bit more lateral thinking guys - if the layout doesn't fit the train, then make the train fit the layout. Andy you just need to do a cut and shut on the turbots and remove the centre section out of each and glue them back together. Might look a bit odd but it would fit. ha ha! Paul R Get some Grampus! I've seen a video on Youtube where a Grampus builder put his (plastic) wagons in the oven! They had bent sides too, and bent frames, floppy buffers and brake gear. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 33 minutes ago, pwr said: Actually it needs a bit more lateral thinking guys - if the layout doesn't fit the train, then make the train fit the layout. Andy you just need to do a cut and shut on the turbots and remove the centre section out of each and glue them back together. Might look a bit odd but it would fit. ha ha! Paul R Lateral thinking = N Gauge? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said: Get some Grampus! I've seen a video on Youtube where a Grampus builder put his (plastic) wagons in the oven! They had bent sides too, and bent frames, floppy buffers and brake gear. I will be getting at least one Grampus once the Shops open again, as I have about £35 Credit at one place, and they sell Parkside. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dragonboy Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: Nice idea Andi, but once again there would be no room to either run into the other curved Fiddle Yard, or access the Loop to be able to run around or shunt the Yard. The reality is that the room is a stupid short size, for decent length Trains in O Gauge. But just think what you could do in N Andy Brian - committed N gauge modeller since the 70’s - and wonder if I should have been committed as a result. Usually when trying to put transfers on to wagon kits so they are straight. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Two possible solutions to the lack of room Mr P. Neither of which have been mentioned I think. Both unfortunately involve some form of stress to one degree or another. First up we have getting rid of the wife- I'll leave you to choose the method (all I ask is don't mention my name to the police) or second move house. Over to you Mr P Ps Many thanks to Ian -47606odin for posting the link on the turbets. I will now watch and take notes. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dragonboy Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Winslow Boy said: Two possible solutions to the lack of room Mr P. Neither of which have been mentioned I think. Both unfortunately involve some form of stress to one degree or another. First up we have getting rid of the wife- I'll leave you to choose the method (all I ask is don't mention my name to the police) or second move house. Over to you Mr P Ps Many thanks to Ian -47606odin for posting the link on the turbets. I will now watch and take notes. My wife moved on of her own accord many years ago with the result that I now have 5 separate N gauge layouts in N in using 2 bedrooms. Getting “rid” of the wife however wasn’t an option as I’d relaid the patio and besides I remembered what happened in Brookside and our next door neighbour was a policeman. So I adopted the more subtle approach of boring her rigid with talk of wheel configurations and the merits of LMS compared to GW. Edited March 30, 2021 by Dragonboy Spillung 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Andy I have a Parkside mermaid kit you can have which is surplus to requirements here if you are interested. You can have it for free but its not built. DM me with your address if interested and I will send it although I may have to go on a hunt to retrieve it. I am not sure if its in the loft or in a pile of crates waiting to go back into the workshop! Might take a week or so to find it!!! Paul R 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dragonboy said: But just think what you could do in N Andy Brian - committed N gauge modeller since the 70’s - and wonder if I should have been committed as a result. Usually when trying to put transfers on to wagon kits so they are straight. Been there, done that / N, a couple of times, but the eyes and sanity would not allow a return now I don't think. I could certainly do something impressive in N. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Winslow Boy said: Two possible solutions to the lack of room Mr P. Neither of which have been mentioned I think. Both unfortunately involve some form of stress to one degree or another. First up we have getting rid of the wife- I'll leave you to choose the method (all I ask is don't mention my name to the police) or second move house. Over to you Mr P Ps Many thanks to Ian -47606odin for posting the link on the turbets. I will now watch and take notes. Sold Wife No 1, and moved house less than a year ago so no to either, current Wife is O.K. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, pwr said: Andy I have a Parkside mermaid kit you can have which is surplus to requirements here if you are interested. You can have it for free but its not built. DM me with your address if interested and I will send it although I may have to go on a hunt to retrieve it. I am not sure if its in the loft or in a pile of crates waiting to go back into the workshop! Might take a week or so to find it!!! Paul R Thanks Paul, Yes please and I'm happy to pay for it, or postage, I'll pm you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2021 How about an underground layout - underground? There's also the vertical option if you can conquer the gravity problem. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ray H said: How about an underground layout - underground? There's also the vertical option if you can conquer the gravity problem. I remember these Bungalows being built, it was my Playground as a child, I know some of what may be buried under the floor boards and I ain't looking to check. Tried aloft, and I would be the one finding how gravity works if I tried it again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2021 My suggestion wasn't serious. It is probably the most possible but not worth it in my view. Trains to fit the space is the answer but them big diesels and long wagons are restrictive. The answer is two use two roads in the fiddle yard . Train departs into the first road and halts partway in uncouple move to next road and pull the remaind of the train in with an 04 in that road. Quite often a train will set off and stop with the loco by a signal where the bobby can see it is ready for the road. Don 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi4x4 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Andrew P said: Nice idea Andi, but once again there would be no room to either run into the other curved Fiddle Yard, or access the Loop to be able to run around or shunt the Yard. The reality is that the room is a stupid short size, for decent length Trains in O Gauge. How long is drive, Andy ? Measure car, Measure drive, deduct length of car from length of drive, build extension on unused portion of drive ! and if you need a bigger unused portion of drive in the future, just buy a smaller car and repeat process ....... Hat, coat, etc...... Regards Andi Edited March 30, 2021 by andi4x4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PeterBB Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2021 Restrictions on Andy's deeds even stop him building a big shed that would have been the ideal ... current system is O and would not need to go as far as N but Andy has thought of that and decided he preferred the O. Getting rid of wife - no way here either. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Donw said: The Answer is simple by an old van park it really close to the POD. storage yard goes into the van. Access through a tunnel from the disused station road. Peronally I think it would be too much faff getting out to go into the van to access the trains so I would bother. It would probably be the most practical solution but would it be worth it? Don A minor conversion to the van and you could simply turn it round and run the trains back from the storage yard onto the layout. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I really think we should move on from telling Andy what to do and enjoy the layout as it is! Paul R 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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