Hornby - New tooling - Ruston 48DS 0-4-0

[Steamport Southport 11,776]

I take it that was new?

 

Looking at the back it looks like a poor paint job. I would send it back if you wanted a mint condition one. Regardless if you are going to fit DCC.

 

If you plan on keeping it anyway then I would try T cut or similar.

 

 

Jason

[TomScrut 1,985]

1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said:

I take it that was new?

 

It is.

 

Good point regarding the back end, I think I'll be in touch with them and get it replaced.

[Ruston 21,065]

On 13/10/2020 at 16:34, OliverRowley said:

Hello all,

Here's what I've done to mine! Featuring a little bit of fictional history.

Hope its a decent watch if you fancy!

 Thanks

Olly

You did say to comment if there's any way you can improve the modelling so here's my two penn'orth. It's too shiny. For a dirty and weathered loco it needs to lose the shine. A blow-over with matt varnish, perhaps?

[PhilJ W 87,453]

3 hours ago, TomScrut said:

I have just received one of these today. Looks OK other than it has a paint mark on what looks to be on the inside of a cab window.

 

 

Has anyone has this and is it a simple enough thing to solve with thinners?

 

I will likely be having things to bits anyway as I am going to fit a stay alive I think so I can lose the pickup truck, so I expect it will be simple enough to solve but could do with knowing if I am sending it back before I do that 

Be very careful  with what you use to remove the paint as some will turn the glazing frosty. Best is something like T-cut applied with a cotton bud. It will leave very fine scratches but these can removed by coating with clear acrylic varnish. 

[TomScrut 1,985]

38 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

Be very careful  with what you use to remove the paint as some will turn the glazing frosty. Best is something like T-cut applied with a cotton bud. It will leave very fine scratches but these can removed by coating with clear acrylic varnish. 

 

Thanks, I am going to return it I think as I think that's the simplest thing to do.

 

I aren't in a rush for it anyway as it's for a small heritage part of a layout I am planning to build.

[OliverRowley 125]

On 17/10/2020 at 16:51, Ruston said:

You did say to comment if there's any way you can improve the modelling so here's my two penn'orth. It's too shiny. For a dirty and weathered loco it needs to lose the shine. A blow-over with matt varnish, perhaps?

 

Danke!

I think a matt vanish and maybe a final going over with some kind of grey wash.

Thanks

Olly 

[jonhall 2,992]

Umm, damage to top of boiler? - completely missing the chimney and dome by the look of things....

 

J

 

[PhilJ W 87,453]

1 hour ago, jonhall said:

Umm, damage to top of boiler? - completely missing the chimney and dome by the look of things....

 

J

 

And available brand new from Rails of Sheffield for £64:50 and if your quick post free.

[john new 2,493]

I have a DVLR 'Jim" on pre-order via Hattons, do we have any updates yet as to whether delivery is likely to be roughly on-time (i.e.about now as announced) or delayed, posibly considerably, like two of my other current pre-orders? I don't mind if it is, although disappointing, but it helps gauge cash-flow to know when something like this is actually due.

[john new 2,493]

On 22/11/2020 at 13:48, john new said:

I have a DVLR 'Jim" on pre-order via Hattons, do we have any updates yet as to whether delivery is likely to be roughly on-time (i.e.about now as announced) or delayed, posibly considerably, like two of my other current pre-orders? I don't mind if it is, although disappointing, but it helps gauge cash-flow to know when something like this is actually due.

 

Having had a weird hit in a Hornby website search earlier saying it was in stock (my flawed search term perhaps) I contacted Hattons as I was puzzled I hadn't heard anything about my pre-order. They checked for me and are not now expecting the Jim DVLR version to be with them before August 2021. 

 

Been said umpteen times before but the release announcements for these products is a total farce, only a few weeks ago when the model, had it actually been coming, would have already been on the ship the delivery was still being quoted on Hornby's website as November/ December this year which Hornby either must have known was wrong or they aren't adequately kept up to date - do we assume (a) they just can't be a***d to keep customers reliably informed or (b) the Chinese production end has so much of an upper hand they are telling the UK end porkies?

 

[TomScrut 1,985]

25 minutes ago, john new said:

Been said umpteen times before but the release announcements for these products is a total farce, only a few weeks ago when the model, had it actually been coming, would have already been on the ship the delivery was still being quoted on Hornby's website as November/ December this year which Hornby either must have known was wrong or they aren't adequately kept up to date - do we assume (a) they just can't be a***d to keep customers reliably informed or (b) the Chinese production end has so much of an upper hand they are telling the UK end porkies?

 

It could have fallen off that ship the other day? All sorts of accidents happen.

 

Also worth bearing in mind they could have made them and rejected them on QC grounds.

[john new 2,493]

1 hour ago, TomScrut said:

 

It could have fallen off that ship the other day? All sorts of accidents happen.

 

Also worth bearing in mind they could have made them and rejected them on QC grounds.

 

Guessing you mean this one, I had missed it on the news. https://theloadstar.com/one-apus-stack-collapse-losses-expected-to-top-200m/  A definite oops tilt moment!

[TomScrut 1,985]

1 hour ago, john new said:

 

Guessing you mean this one, I had missed it on the news. https://theloadstar.com/one-apus-stack-collapse-losses-expected-to-top-200m/  A definite oops tilt moment!

 

Yes that's the one! Or ONE...

 

Whilst it might be a complete stab in the dark and nowhere near on target, something is in them thousands of containers!

[Butler Henderson 1,933]

1 minute ago, TomScrut said:

 

Yes that's the one! Or ONE...

 

Whilst it might be a complete stab in the dark and nowhere near on target, something is in them thousands of containers!

It would be a very misdirected container for Margate if was on that ship as it heading to Long Beach California

[john new 2,493]

Just now, Butler Henderson said:

It would be a very misdirected container for Margate if was on that ship as it heading to Long Beach California

The report includes the following for route -

 

"The ONE Apus is deployed on THE Alliance’s FP2 North Europe-Asia-North America service...."

 

Therefore the next leg after the USA would logically have been back to Northern Europe to complete the circular round trip of N Europe - Asia - Panama Canal - USA - Europe. Having Chinese goods bound for Europe is therefore not an illogical inference, especially if the fireworks were stock intended for New Year's Eve.

[Butler Henderson 1,933]

6 minutes ago, john new said:

The report includes the following for route -

 

"The ONE Apus is deployed on THE Alliance’s FP2 North Europe-Asia-North America service...."

 

Therefore the next leg after the USA would logically have been back to Northern Europe to complete the circular round trip of N Europe - Asia - Panama Canal - USA - Europe. Having Chinese goods bound for Europe is therefore not an illogical inference, especially if the fireworks were stock intended for New Year's Eve.

Not according to ONEs web site: FP2 starts at Southampton via Antwep, Hamburg and Rotterdam to Jeddah, Hong Kong and Long Beach, then north to Oakland and back via Hong Kong and Jeddah to Southampton.  

[TomScrut 1,985]

1 hour ago, Butler Henderson said:

It would be a very misdirected container for Margate if was on that ship as it heading to Long Beach California

 

Yes, it was more an example of how something can end up being delayed at the last minute rather than any real expectancy that it could have been that ship.

[PhilJ W 87,453]

1 hour ago, john new said:

The report includes the following for route -

 

"The ONE Apus is deployed on THE Alliance’s FP2 North Europe-Asia-North America service...."

 

Therefore the next leg after the USA would logically have been back to Northern Europe to complete the circular round trip of N Europe - Asia - Panama Canal - USA - Europe. Having Chinese goods bound for Europe is therefore not an illogical inference, especially if the fireworks were stock intended for New Year's Eve.

The vessel looks too big to go through the Panama canal and is probably too big for the Suez canal as well.

[coline33 567]

All good things including the containerisation of freight do have 'cons' especially as size of operation builds up.   Round the world shipping runs by sea give the 'economic' service whilst by air its the 'express' one - need say no more when it comes to how you put comparative value of goods in transit.   Our broadcasters have referred to the overloading this year of the UK container facilities (15% higher than norm) due to Covid-19 affecting different parts of the globe at different times for production of goods plus the rush to stockpile ahead of Brexit deadlines.   Felixstowe is said to be taking the brunt of this, however the extra capacity available at Thames Gateway still has to be taken up as that development comes fully onstream.   Foreseeing this huge problem the PLA set up its task force in the autumn to help the LO/LO and RO/RO operators on the Thames to help out each other where circumstances permitted.   Whilst incidences at sea are always occurring with loss of containers overboard, the present situation is a freight forwarders' worst nightmare and the recipients of their goods (worse if part load of a container) just have to be patient - I would not be surprised to find that all the staff at Kernow MRC (let alone at the big names) are bald!!!.        

[PenrithBeacon 3,638]

On 02/10/2019 at 21:11, mozzer models said:

does this help

the gap between the frames is 21.3mm

IMG_20191002_210814 by brian mosby, on Flickr

On 05/10/2019 at 09:41, lippy said:

Anyone please tell me the wheelbase of these and the height of the motor inside the body. Lookig at the possibility of using it to power something else. 

 

On 03/10/2019 at 19:59, Porcy Mane said:

This may make things a little clearer regarding P4 clearances.

 

 

P

Coming very late to this conversation (and prompted by a post on the new thread on the forthcoming Hornby 88DS) I note that the Scalefour Digest quotes the overall dimensions for P4 wheelsets as 19.53/19.75mm, so this conversion should work, but it will be tight.

I'm undecided whether to go for this or build the Judith Edge kit I bought a little while ago, but I think I would use AGW 4007 2’7½” 10.5mm plain disc ‘Lowmac’ wheels rather than the Branchlines because the AGWs are insulated. Perhaps it wouldn't make much difference, would depend on how Hornby have made their model.

[decauville1126 211]

4 hours ago, PenrithBeacon said:

 

I'm undecided whether to go for this or build the Judith Edge kit I bought a little while ago,

 

If you want a Ruston 48DS in it's later bashed-and-battered state then the Judith Edge kit will be easier with it's thinner reveal edges (sorry Mike about the pun!).

[davknigh 573]

The Judith Edge kit has multiple advantages for the P4 modeller. It is compensated, has a HighLevel gearbox and Mike supplies the wheels on request. Mine can handle 6 wagons of mixed axle boxes (pin point and drop in conversion) with no problem. There are a number of "how-to build" threads available both here and on the Scalefour website.

 

 

Cheers,

 

David

[Spencer617 9]

Do we know when the next lot of 48s will come into stock a quick check on the Hattons website shows the express dairies not until August 2021! I thought it was meant to be this month?

[PhilJ W 87,453]

I've ordered mine direct from Hornby and the delivery date is the same.

[TomScrut 1,985]

On a related topic, which websites are the most reliable for delivery dates? Hornby only seems to commit to a quarter whereas in reality I think they tell dealers a month. Hattons and Model Railways Direct seem to have months listed on items (although they do differ)