5050 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 23 hours ago, Ruston said: I think I may have posted these before but here are the only surviving photos of the scrap yard layout that I built in 1988. The only thing that I have left is the Atkinson recovery truck that is now minus bodywork and parked on White Peak. That Barclay looks familair................................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, 5050 said: That Barclay looks familair................................ Yes, it does. Is it back in one piece yet? I have bought some plywood, so I can start sawing it up soon. Rather than about going to the local model shops, wasting time and fuel and returning with nowt (because there's no call for them) I'm going to order all the Code 75 track and points from Hattons. I've been searching the interwebz for Walthers gantry cranes and it would appear that there are none in the UK. I'm not buying anything from the USA as the last time I did that I had to pay as much in taxes as the thing (a model aircraft kit) cost, so I'll scratch-build the cranes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastworld Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 You could try ordering from Walthers dealers in Europe. Then you do not have to pay the tax. I have done this successfully once or twice. Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, eastworld said: You could try ordering from Walthers dealers in Europe. Then you do not have to pay the tax. I have done this successfully once or twice. Stu Try Model Junction in Slough? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) To be honest, I don't think the Walther's cranes are really tall enough. I used one on the scrap unloading area on River Don Works and there wasn't much clearance between the magnet and the tops of any rail vehicles that went under it. When you look at the cranes at Booths, and the old T.W. Ward yard in Sheffield, they were much taller. I'll probably make them from scratch. Edited January 25, 2023 by Ruston 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 I was going to cut the plywood, today, but after dragging the circular saw outside, followed by a 110v transformer, I plugged the transformer in and it tripped the circuit under the stairs. So I dragged them back into the garage and that was that. I don't know how I'm going to cut it now as the circular saw has a guide and a straight line is guaranteed but, on the other hand, I can't saw a straight line with either a hand saw or a jigsaw. I've been thinking about couplings. Tension locks are definitely not on the cards. Three-links tend to be a faff but I have an idea... The most dificult part of coupling using 3-links is picking up the link - wouldn't it be so much easier if the link can be seen and accessed, rather than it hanging down? By fitting a tiny magnet under one end of each wagon, and the opposite end having a steel link as the end link on the coupling, when wagons are drawn near the steel link will be attracted to the magnet on the next wagon and will present itself to be easily picked up by the shunter's pole. That's the idea, anyway. I'll order some magnets and see if it works. If it doesn't, it's no loss as the magnets will come in useful for fixing buildings in place. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2020 You will need to use iron, not steel, Dave. Steel links will become magnetised and get into a right old mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) On 20/12/2019 at 19:23, Tom Burnham said: T W Ward, Silvertown, 1974, 1980 and 1985 (2). Looks like I photographed that Ruston from the other side - September 1986. I'm not great with diesels, what's this I also snapped on the same visit? Edited December 20, 2022 by Barclay 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Looks like a Hudswell Clarke diesel hydraulic of the same type as was (is?) used at the Brush works in Loughborough. Renishaw Park colliery also had a pair of these and there's one preserved at the Pontypool & Blaenavon. It would be nice to see a kit of one. Mr. Edge? 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 07/01/2020 at 21:07, Regularity said: You will need to use iron, not steel, Dave. Steel links will become magnetised and get into a right old mess. I think the wire that I have is iron anyway but thanks for that. I had no idea they behaved any differently as far as magnetism is concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ruston said: Looks like a Hudswell Clarke diesel hydraulic of the same type as was (is?) used at the Brush works in Loughborough. Renishaw Park colliery also had a pair of these and there's one preserved at the Pontypool & Blaenavon. It would be nice to see a kit of one. Mr. Edge? I have the drawings of this loco , was in a magazine from many years ago, not even sure of the magazine title so long ago ! If you want the drawing pm me and will see if i can find it , think it was done by a Don Townsley iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Barclay said: Looks like I photographed that Ruston from the other side - September 1986. You got further into the yard than I did on my Sunday afternoon bike ride then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Ruston said: Looks like a Hudswell Clarke diesel hydraulic of the same type as was (is?) used at the Brush works in Loughborough. Renishaw Park colliery also had a pair of these and there's one preserved at the Pontypool & Blaenavon. It would be nice to see a kit of one. Mr. Edge? I'll consider anything I can get good drawings of, we don't have anything Hudswell at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Tom Burnham said: You got further into the yard than I did on my Sunday afternoon bike ride then! Geography field trip - I had only the dimmest memory of this visit until I saw your pictures, which had me rummaging in my box of photo's looking for proof that I hadn't dreamed it ! Mike - I'd take one of those if you do it, plus the large Ship Canal Hudswell, Alnwick Castle of course... Does the loco at T W Ward have a different bonnet profile to the preserved one mentioned by Ruston? Looks more like a pitched roof shape I think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2020 The MSC Hudswell DE is in the to do list and I have the HC GA now as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 I bought some tiny, but very strong, magnets, from t'internet. They measure 6x4x3mm. The idea was to have one under one end of each wagon, so the iron link on the coupling would be attracted and rise up, thus making it easier to couple with a shunter's pole. This, however, did not work as intended and the link would not move until it was so near that when it did it could touch the magnet. I had one wagon now connected to another and as I dragged the wagon it pulled the other with it and that gave me an idea. In the video, below, the train is only connected by the coupling links and magnets. The locomotive has a magnet only. The locomotive can be backed on to a wagon and the wagon's coupling attaches itself to the locomotive and the train can be hauled. By backing the locomotive onto the train and snatching the coupling, the train parts at the locomotive coupling. Wagons will similarly couple together but must be parted by use of a coffee stirrer with a notch cut in it. I think this is a perfectly suitable system for a small shunting layout as this. The magnets are quite unobtrusive and will be even less so once painted and being at one end only, the main viewing end of all stock retains an unaltered end with 3-link coupling. 7 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted January 10, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) The other Ruston for the layout. Edited January 25, 2023 by Ruston 14 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2020 I do like that ( I've taken notes too). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 That looks supeb Ruston, really like the paint fading and painting the roof makes a big difference too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 That coupling idea is genius, and I think I'll do the same on my own layout. Now, where to get some suitably magnetic OO gauge 3 links...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) I found this in my local model shop. It's suitable for the period and so, with a bit of work, will become one of Charlie Strong's fleet of scrap-carrying lorries. Edited January 25, 2023 by Ruston 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Your task, should you decide to accept, is to motorise it and have it running in and out of the site, across tracks, full one way, empty the other. Note - not my original idea but one suggested by a 'mutual friend' who, for the purpose of this thread, will stay nameless........................................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted January 12, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) On 12/01/2020 at 15:50, 5050 said: Your task, should you decide to accept, is to motorise it and have it running in and out of the site, across tracks, full one way, empty the other. Note - not my original idea but one suggested by a 'mutual friend' who, for the purpose of this thread, will stay nameless........................................... I'm quite happy to have it parked up and the driver on his break. I had a 6-wheel rigid chassis, with a Thornycroft cab, which was intended for White Peak, so I've used that, instead of building a trailer. I had already built the tippper body from plasticard, so that's gone on, too. I painted the front bumper, widened the track on all axles and replaced the front wheels with white metal items that I got from Langleys, years ago. Transfers designed using Photoshop and printed on decal paper. Reg. plate, telephone and Telex codes correct for Birmingham in the 1980s, thanks to folks from this forum. "Part of the Shelby group of companies". Sprayed with matt varnish and weathered with acrylic paints and weathering powders. Edited January 25, 2023 by Ruston 23 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 The paint job on that body is superb. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Baseboard in progress and placed in the slot where it will live. That is only one side of the bookshelves and the centre support, to the right of the bridge, will need a hole making in it so as to allow through running to a fiddle yard. Edited January 25, 2023 by Ruston 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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