montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) I was looking for some pictures of BR's Rail Ambassador train and I came across some pictures of these weird and wonderfully liveried coaches, so I thought that I'd start a thread about them. Feel free to add your own pics or any info that you might have about them. This is what used to be the Rail Ambassador train which seems to have later had the logo painted over and used for something else. https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brexhibitiontrain/h2ED22C6#h2ed22c6 99650 ex-BG 99621 Ex-?? I think that these two might actually be from a different train as the livery seems to be slightly different. Unknown Ex-SK Unknown Ex-BG Edited June 5, 2020 by montyburns56 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Trainex 82 Trainex 1969 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris shen Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Theres a few here .... https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brexhibitiontrain and a bit of history further down ....https://www.stocktonmodeller.co.uk/39075k-br-mk1-bsk-coach-in-intercity-exhibitions-livery.ir. hope this helps. Chris 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 The Sony Trainman wasn't quite as successful as some of their other products... 99622 Platform 84 Travelling Tradeshow for Sony 99636 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted June 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2020 Interesting to see these photos. My old boss at one time , Ron Shirley, had previously run TrainEx and gave me a lot of papers and photos which I turned into two articles in the HMRS Journal. There had previously been article in Model Railway Constructor. Here are a few photos, nice period pieces. Jonathan 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 The Stanier conversions. Has anyone ever had a go at modelling these? 38744 British Telecom 38741M Stiff Tour 78 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: Interesting to see these photos. My old boss at one time , Ron Shirley, had previously run TrainEx and gave me a lot of papers and photos which I turned into two articles in the HMRS Journal. There had previously been article in Model Railway Constructor. Here are a few photos, nice period pieces. Jonathan Nice one Jonathan, that shows the Rail Ambassador logo in all of it's glory 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted June 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2020 There was another private operation, Rea Mobile Marketing, and Ron introduced me to the owner, who also gave me some photos. His trains were based on older stock, as shown below. The two businesses were taken over by BR. Kensington Olympia, where the Be Stiff Tour train is seen above, was a place where the trains were often photographed. Jonathan 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Ordanance Survey MAP 99635 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: There was another private operation, Rea Mobile Marketing, and Ron introduced me to the owner, who also gave me some photos. His trains were based on older stock, as shown below. The two businesses were taken over by BR. Kensington Olympia, where the Be Stiff Tour train is seen above, was a place where the trains were often photographed. Jonathan Wonderful pictures! They look like they have been converted from Thompson BGs?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Some from when they stored them at Salisbury. GWR train hidden behind the Yeoman wagons. Then one with less to block them. Finally stored where the depot is now. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 I'm wondering if some of those blue coaches that I posted above were part of this train?? Philips Mobile I don't know what this one was selling, but the livery on VIX?? wagon at the front of the train is unusual Who wouldn't want to ride on train called the Seafish Express? Hoover Exhibition Another "Hoover" train BT's 'Power Behind the Button' 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted June 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2020 "They look like they have been converted from Thompson BGs??" Correct And thanks to those who have posted other photos I had never seen. Yes, the train was reliveried for each exhibition. Some were single company tours and others such as Trainex were mutli-company. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) . Edited October 4, 2021 by Dave47549 Removed pointless guff 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 bringing another couple of threads on exhibition coaches in I personally am still interested in learning more about a set of at least 3 siphons in use as 'the radio show' exhibition train - I've only see 3 pictures and do not have copyright. Jon 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: "They look like they have been converted from Thompson BGs??" Correct And thanks to those who have posted other photos I had never seen. Yes, the train was reliveried for each exhibition. Some were single company tours and others such as Trainex were mutli-company. Jonathan Yeah after posting all the pictures it seems that the blue/white coaches just had a different logo on them depending on the customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Dave47549 said: For those interested, these are the previous identities for the 996xx number series: 99600 Converted 1972 from Mk.1 BSK 34567 99601 Converted 1972 from Mk.1 BSK 34577 99602 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BCK 21145 99603 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BCK 21082 99604 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34082 99605 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BCK 21197 99606 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34504 99607 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34307 99608 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34063 99609 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34305 99610 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34355 99611 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34583 99612 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34690 99613 Lot 30841(C) Swindon 1972/3 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34515 99614 Lot 30842(C) Swindon 1976 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34083 99620 Lot 30842(C) Swindon 1976 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34692 99621 Lot 30842(C) Swindon 1976 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34697 99622 Lot 30842(C) Swindon 1976 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34584 99623 Lot 30842(C) Swindon 1976 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34700 99624 Lot 30842(C) Swindon 1976 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34084 99625 Lot 30842(C) Swindon 1976 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34693 99626 Lot 1123 York 1945 Ex LNER BG 70592 99627 Lot 1152 York 1946 Ex LNER BG 70630 99628 Lot 983 York 1940 Ex LNER BG 70491 99629 Lot 30950(C) 1979 Ex Mk.1 SK 25972 99630 Lot 30951(C) 1979 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34695 99631 Lot 30952(C) 1979 Ex Mk.1 RUO 1018 99632 Ex Mk.1 TSO 4329 99633 Ex Mk.1 TSO 3827 99634 Ex Mk.1 SK 25317 99635 Ex Mk.1 SK 25637 99636 Ex Mk.1 SK 25646 99637 Ex Mk.1 CK 15854 99638 Ex Mk.1 BCK 21021 99639 Ex departmental DW150027 (GWR Siphon G 2790) 99640 Ex departmental DW150023 (GWR Siphon G 2xxx) 99641 Lot 30971(C) 1980 Ex Mk.1 RUO 1036 99642 Lot 30971(C) 1980 Ex Mk.1 RUO 1040 99643 Ex Mk.1 TSO 4272 99644 Ex Mk.1 TSO 3852 99645 Ex Mk.1 RB 1765 99646 Ex Mk.1 RB 1766 99647 Ex Mk.1 BSK 34629 99648 Ex freight stock B787017 99649 Ex Mk.1 BG 80502 99650 Ex Mk.1 BG 80830 99651 Ex Mk.1 RB 1728 99652 Ex Mk.1 SLF 2004 99653 Ex Mk.1 SLF 2005 99654 Ex Mk.1 TSO 4323 99655 Ex Mk.1 TSO 4321 99656 Ex Mk.1 TSO 4298 99657 Ex Mk.1 TSO 4569 99658 Ex Mk.1 TSO 4592 99659 Ex Mk.1 TSO 4518 99660 Ex Mk.1 BCK 21188 99661 Ex Mk.1 BG 80510 99662 Converted 1996 Ex Mk.2d TSO 5689 99663 Converted 1996 Ex Mk.2d TSO 6223 (Ex FO 3194) 99664 Converted 1996 Ex Mk.2d TSO 6231 (Ex FO 3189) 99665 Converted 1996 Ex Mk.2e TSO 5755 99666 Converted 1996 Ex Mk.2e FO 3250 From the above list, it's 99648. Thanks for that exhaustive list, it should come in handy for anyone who wants to model these trains. And it seems that there already is a thread about the VIX. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grampus Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) Funny my thread should come up again. I was enjoying reading through this new thread when I discovered it earlier this afternoon. Strangely enough, a photo of said VIX turned up awhile later in a different thread, in black with large double arrows on the doors, in a train which, IIRC had nothing to do with the Exhibition stock. Think said livery was to do with its former existence? The picture is on here somewhere, but unfortunately I know not where. Hopefully someone will remember. Update . Found it - the picture of the black ferry van with the large logos, a David Larkin picture, appears on page 2 of the 'Hornby VIX FerryVans. Detailing and the new Railtec transfers' thread. Sorry - tried to post a link but failed miserably. HTH. Best wishes, Paul Edited June 5, 2020 by Grampus Update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 6 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Wonderful pictures! They look like they have been converted from Thompson BGs?? The nearest roof end's wrong for a Thompson - that one, at least, is a Gresley ( Maybe one of the steel-sheeted ones.). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) On 05/06/2020 at 20:14, jonhall said: bringing another couple of threads on exhibition coaches in I personally am still interested in learning more about a set of at least 3 siphons in use as 'the radio show' exhibition train - I've only see 3 pictures and do not have copyright. Jon This is spooky. I started the thread about the Stiff Records tour nearly 7 years ago. I haven't thought about it for a while but yesterday afternoon I was sitting on a station watching trains near where I now live in France and my mate and I were talking about buying houses during the mortgage famine in 78. I told him the story of seeing the Stiff Tour train at Huddersfield. He was amazed. Then tonight up pops this link. Some good stuff on here. Jamie Edited August 2, 2021 by jamie92208 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted June 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2020 Re the LNER BGs I should have read the post more carefully. In fact there were only these three vehicles in the Rea Mobile Marketing fleet, though later he chartered vehicles from BR. His three vehicles were D245 LNER no 70491/BR no M99628, D327 LNER no 70592/BR no M99626 and D327 LNER no 70630/BR no M99627. The first was teak. the others described as deal. All three ended up with preservation groups but I don't know if they still survive. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 I only saw an exhibition train once, would have been circa 1986 at Edinburgh Waverley. Didn't take any pictures, and have no memory of what was being advertised. Was parked in one of the east facing platforms and the platform itself was fenced off. Fortunately could see the coaches from an adjacent platform, as that was empty. Remember having to look for the numbers, as they were on the solebars rather than the bodyside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 19 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: The nearest roof end's wrong for a Thompson - that one, at least, is a Gresley ( Maybe one of the steel-sheeted ones.). Right, well I'm guessing that they were these three so perhaps some LNER experts can work out what they are from the Lot Numbers. 99626 Lot 1123 York 1945 Ex LNER BG 70592 99627 Lot 1152 York 1946 Ex LNER BG 70630 99628 Lot 983 York 1940 Ex LNER BG 70491 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 18 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: Re the LNER BGs I should have read the post more carefully. In fact there were only these three vehicles in the Rea Mobile Marketing fleet, though later he chartered vehicles from BR. His three vehicles were D245 LNER no 70491/BR no M99628, D327 LNER no 70592/BR no M99626 and D327 LNER no 70630/BR no M99627. The first was teak. the others described as deal. All three ended up with preservation groups but I don't know if they still survive. Jonathan From the RCTS site.. Originally 4268. Converted to Exhibition Van numbered MM3023, then renumbered 99628. Transferred to Departmental Stock as Rail Safety Exhibition Van numbered ZDB975399. Preserved at Steamtown Railway Centre, Carnforth, Lancashire 1/81. Moved to Bulmers Railway Centre, Hereford, then to Llangollen Railway 6/93, then to Doldowlod Caravan Park, Llanwrthwl 2014 Converted to Exhibition Van numbered M3021, then renumbered 99626. Transferred to Departmental Stock as Rail Safety Exhibition Van numbered ZDB975400. Preserved at Steamtown Railway Centre, Carnforth, Lancashire 1/81, scrapped c2006 Converted to Exhibition Van numbered M3022, then re-numbered 99627. Transferred to Departmental Stock as Rail Safety Exhibition Van ZDB975401. Preserved at Steamtown Railway Centre, Carnforth, Lancashire, 1/81. https://rcts.org.uk/carriage-conundrums/lner-br-non-passenger-carrying-coaching-stock-disposals/lner-br-gangwayed-passenger-brakes/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 hours ago, dvdlcs said: I only saw an exhibition train once, would have been circa 1986 at Edinburgh Waverley. Didn't take any pictures, and have no memory of what was being advertised. Was parked in one of the east facing platforms and the platform itself was fenced off. Fortunately could see the coaches from an adjacent platform, as that was empty. Remember having to look for the numbers, as they were on the solebars rather than the bodyside. I used to see them quite often when going places. Always parked up in a platform with bored looking people waiting for customers. They would have one or two in the Exhibition livery (like the Bachmann model) then you would have about three or four scruffy BR Blue vans with the doors open and a ramp to access them. Probably not the impression they were trying to achieve. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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