RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted October 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, MrWolf said: I have no idea how the picture went sideways. It’s gone gangster! Does that help? Edited October 8, 2021 by chuffinghell 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2021 At least there's enough for two FPLs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortuga Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 If you need more of that Wills rodding, drop me a PM. I’ve got a pack I bought before I became aware of the Modelu parts that you’re welcome to. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2021 14 hours ago, MrWolf said: Yes, I will need to have FPLs on the main line, I should have either drawn them in or made a note that I had left them off for clarity. I'm not 100% certain that the general arrangement is correct though. If they are economical FPL (i.e use the same lever) would they need a separate rod all the way? Don 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 48 minutes ago, Donw said: If they are economical FPL (i.e use the same lever) would they need a separate rod all the way? Don Er. Pass? Anybody? It certainly sounds logical for a lightly used line that is still carrying passengers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Donw said: If they are economical FPL (i.e use the same lever) would they need a separate rod all the way? Don 30 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Er. Pass? Anybody? It certainly sounds logical for a lightly used line that is still carrying passengers. Not normally on the GWR AFAIK. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: Not normally on the GWR AFAIK. So I'm better off with two rods running the length of the platform to operate the left hand crossover. Assuming of course that both points are locked by one rod and operated by the other in tandem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, MrWolf said: So I'm better off with two rods running the length of the platform to operate the left hand crossover. Assuming of course that both points are locked by one rod and operated by the other in tandem? Yes but not quite for that reason. As @Nick C showed, one rod will operate both ends of the crossover and you only need one FPL. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 8 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Not normally on the GWR AFAIK. Should have modelled the Midland! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) @Nick C and @St Enodoc helped me a lot with mine I’ve got one rod operating the crossover and The FPL is at the other end of the layout because it’s only required when a train is approaching from a facing direction (I think) This is how I did mine thanks to @Nick C and @St Enodoc‘s advice I did the ‘in line’ crank like this, I think this is how @KNP did it on Little Muddle I did the FPL with separate rods hope that helps Rob Edited October 9, 2021 by chuffinghell 7 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 Thanks, that makes sense. How did you get the ballast so level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, MrWolf said: How did you get the ballast so level? Pick the layout up and shake it... No? Al. 1 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Thanks, that makes sense. How did you get the ballast so level? unlike me to make sense Not sure if I did it the right way, I just patted it down with my finger until it looked about right before applying any adhesive 28 minutes ago, Alister_G said: Pick the layout up and shake it... That would work too 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Rowsley17D said: Should have modelled the Midland! He told me that too 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Alister_G said: Pick the layout up and shake it... No? Al. No. Probably not. Although there's been moments where I could have picked the layout up and launched it into the back yard. Relaxing hobby my...... 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 I'd better figure out exactly where the signalbox is going to sit and get on with the point rodding. Cue picking up and shaking layout. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 For ballast levelling, @BlackRat invented the Ballast Bunny... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Ballast bunny? Go on, I'm all ears... Edited August 22, 2022 by MrWolf Replaced picture 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 With @Tortugas generous contribution, I am now halfway towards the four metres of point rodding required. Thanks again for the offer. That's a pretty unbelievable amount of point rodding, which would be very visible by it's absence. Better order some more! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Stubby47 said: For ballast levelling, @BlackRat invented the Ballast Bunny... Knowing Neil as I do, I hold certain concerns regarding that concept........ 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Is it like this one? Reminds me of being 5. image lost. Edited August 22, 2022 by MrWolf Image missing 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 42 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Knowing Neil as I do, I hold certain concerns regarding that concept........ And you'd be right to. Conceptually, it was a great idea and the prototype did seem to work remarkably well. I am surprised it never made it to full production, but possibly a certain A Summers Emporium might have been shaken by the potential rival product. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 Regarding FPLs. I wondered whether Stationmaster was following this in which case we would have the definitive answer. However I thought I would check with Laurie's book on point rodding. He advises they were less common and there were many designs all of which used the same rod to operate the FPL as operated the turnout. He also points out that while economic in terms of a Lever and rodding they did require more maintenance. The book available from the 2mm Scale association is wel worth it in my view. Don 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 I'd better give it another read! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 There is a chapter on FPLs. From the modellers point of view it saves having to have extra levers and even more so having to remember to operate them. I am planning to have the points and signals interlocked. I will be using electrickery as what with arthritis and a mountain of kits to build doing a mechanical locking frame is never going to happen whereas the coding for the arduino to control the interlocking is 90% done I need to build a test rig to prove it and finalise on the system to link up to the devices. Don 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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