doilum 1,109 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, melmerby said: Warp factor 11? http://No. Volume! ( Spinal Tap) Link to post Share on other sites
Steamport Southport 11,237 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, doilum said: http://No. Volume! ( Spinal Tap) Off topic, but have you noticed the BBC iPlayer/Sounds thing goes up to 11 as well! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
spamcan61 1,386 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, melmerby said: My Adcola irons are claimed to be 400 degrees If you're dealing with lead free solder you want to be up around 400-420 Link to post Share on other sites
melmerby 14,243 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, spamcan61 said: If you're dealing with lead free solder you want to be up around 400-420 My Adcola irons were made before the era of lead free solder! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
down the sdjr 404 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 hours ago, doilum said: If in doubt go for "11"! Don't tempt me, I do have another hobby other than trains. The soldering iron may be 75w but these beauties are 300w each speaker cab. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Torper 1,861 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just to clarify, my "full blast" is 450 degrees. If the iron is up to it, I don't see the point of using a lower temperature unless the specific nature of the work requires it. DT Link to post Share on other sites
Erixtar1992 1,097 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 May be a bit late, but i use an 80W Atten iron which i purchased from dcc concepts. its probably the best bit of money i have spent since i started going mad rewiring locos/decoders and building white metal kits. comes with a fine and a blunt tip, has temp control with digital display and gets up to temp in around 10-15 seconds. also goes into sleep mode if not used for a while, eventually turning off. its excellent. Link to post Share on other sites
polybear 22,240 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 22:50, Phil Parker said: I understand that you don't want to mix the solders on the tips, although I'm not convinced. Powerflow flux works for both after all. I asked Tony Wright about separate tips for solder a while back (I believe I may have read it in an Iain Rice book once); Tony had never heard it and uses the same tip whatever the solder. On 29/11/2020 at 08:53, Torper said: I use full blast on most things unless there is some specific reason not to (which is fairly rare). DT Am I right in thinking that 145 may give off nasty fumes if too high a temp is used? Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Parker 11,719 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, polybear said: I asked Tony Wright about separate tips for solder a while back (I believe I may have read it in an Iain Rice book once); Tony had never heard it and uses the same tip whatever the solder. I read the same book and would agree that my experience is that the tips don't get eaten - but I might just be lucky, or doing it wrong! I'm sure there is some science to prove who is right. Link to post Share on other sites
Torper 1,861 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, polybear said: Am I right in thinking that 145 may give off nasty fumes if too high a temp is used? Some 145 solders contain cadmium which can give off toxic fumes at 320 degrees and even with 145 solder many people will be using irons at temperatures above that. Not all 145 solders contain cadmium, however - in fact I understand that cadmium has now been banned as a filler in solders, but check before you buy. Many solders and fluxes give off fumes which is one reason I like to use a hot iron - quickly in, quickly out. DT Edited December 1, 2020 by Torper 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
spamcan61 1,386 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 16 hours ago, Phil Parker said: I read the same book and would agree that my experience is that the tips don't get eaten - but I might just be lucky, or doing it wrong! I'm sure there is some science to prove who is right. In terms of mixing solders that's always a big no-no at work as you end up with a joint of unknown metal composition and potential long term reliability problems; in the the context of toy trains then fine no issue: the only time I've seen tips eaten away is with persistent use of strong acid fluxes as may be used for loco construction. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hayfield 8,299 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Its worse going from low melt to high melt as the joint yo need to be strong ends up semi low melt. Clean the tip on a bit of scrap brass first Link to post Share on other sites
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