RMweb Premium Ncarter2 Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2021 Evening all, I am just trying to work out wagons for a couple of rakes etc, most of those I recall and from pics show very weathered/faded yellow frame or what appears to be EWS maroon. With that in mind, this is going to be the vast quantity, but the Mainline Blue set is tempting me, so did these run mixed with the others or did they seem to operate in a set area? Late 90’s early 20’s is my usual era, my 56’s & 58’s have been crying out for these wagon. Thanks in advance. Now to join A.A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 14, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ncarter2 said: Evening all, I am just trying to work out wagons for a couple of rakes etc, most of those I recall and from pics show very weathered/faded yellow frame or what appears to be EWS maroon. With that in mind, this is going to be the vast quantity, but the Mainline Blue set is tempting me, so did these run mixed with the others or did they seem to operate in a set area? Late 90’s early 20’s is my usual era, my 56’s & 58’s have been crying out for these wagon. Thanks in advance. Now to join A.A. Hi @Ncarter2, During the days of EWS they did indeed run in mixed liveries; Loadhaul, Transrail, Mainline, EWS and indeed Railfreight red and sector markings with yellow frames did run mixed together to make some great colourful combinations. They also mixed hooded and non hooded wagons as per below, giving you lots of flexibility and operational interest. Cheers! Fran Edited June 14, 2021 by Accurascale Fran 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ncarter2 Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @Ncarter2, During the days of EWS they did indeed run in mixed liveries; Loadhaul, Transrail, Mainline, EWS and indeed Railfreight red and sector markings with yellow frames did run mixed together to make some great colourful combinations. They also mixed hooded and non hooded wagons as per below, giving you lots of flexibility and operational interest. Cheers! Fran Cheers Fran, That’s enough for me to be sold! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) You’ve twisted my arm all 4 sets HAA ordered, just need a 58 now to recreate school boy memories of 58005 /7 and possibly 11 running though Leicester around 1985~ memory a bit hazy. Edited June 15, 2021 by farren Spelling it’s always spelling 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillar Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @Ncarter2, During the days of EWS they did indeed run in mixed liveries; Loadhaul, Transrail, Mainline, EWS and indeed Railfreight red and sector markings with yellow frames did run mixed together to make some great colourful combinations. They also mixed hooded and non hooded wagons as per below, giving you lots of flexibility and operational interest. Cheers! Fran Cracking photos Fran. the mixture of canopied and non-canopied types is interesting. It could be an expensive year! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Pillar said: Cracking photos Fran. the mixture of canopied and non-canopied types is interesting. It could be an expensive year! Thanks @Pillar, one of which is from the Project Manager over our MGR wagons! The shadow privitisiaton and early years of EWS were certainly a colourful era with lots of liveries mixed in and the Autumn of many heritage diesels before the 66s began to appear in 98. I do wonder will it become an era that many of us see with fond nostalgia in the coming years? Hard to believe that era was 25+ years ago now! Cheers! Fran 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham108 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, Pillar said: It could be an expensive year! That's exactly what A/S are hoping for. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieghoff Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Accurascale Fran said: Thanks @Pillar, one of which is from the Project Manager over our MGR wagons! The shadow privitisiaton and early years of EWS were certainly a colourful era with lots of liveries mixed in and the Autumn of many heritage diesels before the 66s began to appear in 98. I do wonder will it become an era that many of us see with fond nostalgia in the coming years? Hard to believe that era was 25+ years ago now! Cheers! Fran None of us are getting any younger Fran. Nostalgic indeed. On a separate note, someone sent me an old picture of a Peak travelling along a now long disused line at Havercroft. The date taken was post the transition from Steam. My age at that time it was taken.............about 1.:) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillar Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Krieghoff said: None of us are getting any younger Fran. Nostalgic indeed. On a separate note, someone sent me an old picture of a Peak travelling along a now long disused line at Havercroft. The date taken was post the transition from Steam. My age at that time it was taken.............about 1.:) Speaking of steam, I haven't seen anyone post a picture yet of the MGRs being hauled by a steam loco! I'm sure I've seen one before somewhere. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Pillar said: Speaking of steam, I haven't seen anyone post a picture yet of the MGRs being hauled by a steam loco! I'm sure I've seen one before somewhere. Ask and ye shall receive! I think someone sent this into us, but I cannot find the name of the person who did... Cheers! Fran 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Ask and ye shall receive! I think someone sent this into us, but I cannot find the name of the person who did... Could it be from here? A thread which throws up these images: ... and then there are all of the Alan Thompson phots of J27's moving rakes of HAA's around Heaton Yards & the Ashington/ellington/Lynemouth area. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2021 Aha, many thanks @Porcy Mane! Wow, those WDs on HOP ABs, I'm in love! Cheers! Fran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Wow, those WDs on HOP ABs, I'm in love! With what at the time, was all the unsavoury negotiations going on between the Coal Board & BR, about who would be paying for what, regarding new MGR Civil engineering works, and with BR trying to project the new "Modern Image"; I bet when management saw new HAA's being hauled by a clapped out steamer, they thought, "Oh FFFffff!" Edited June 15, 2021 by Porcy Mane 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillar Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) I take it the steam locos were only used to move rakes of wagons from A to B, or with conventional loading/unloading? I can't imagine them being able to crawl at 0.5mph through the unloading facility at a power station. Edited June 15, 2021 by Pillar 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2021 54 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: hauled by a clapped out steamer Clapped out? Outrageous statement Built like tanks they were.... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Islesy said: Outrageous statement Thanks. I like clapped out things that can usually be brought back from the dead with nothing more than a little tickling with a big hammer. 50 minutes ago, Pillar said: I can't imagine them being able to crawl at 0.5mph through the unloading facility at a power station. Some early MGR Rapid loaders/unloaders had wheel pusher sleds that moved wagons through the bunkers. Wearmouth colliery had this type of system till closure. P 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Accurascale Fran said: Ask and ye shall receive! I think someone sent this into us, but I cannot find the name of the person who did... Cheers! Fran In some respects more efficient even than a diesel as that would have to stop and refuel, this one could replenish it's coal whilst also loading the wagons. With a trough for water and a crew change whilst crawling for the loading it would only need to stop to drop it's ash, which with a more modern design could be done on the move too. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2021 Of course we mustn't forget the industrial steam which powered on post 1968 and into the 80s. Bickershaw Colliery, anyone? Cheers! Fran 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2021 Featherstone, 1971 I may have gone down a rabbit hole and I'm not sure I'm going to get much more work done today! Cheers! Fran 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Of course we mustn't forget the industrial steam which powered on post 1968 and into the 80s. Bickershaw Colliery, anyone? Cheers! Fran Which is exactly what I have planned for my batch of 'em. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, 4630 said: Which is exactly what I have planned for my batch of 'em. Looking forward to seeing that @4630, we do love our industrial steam! Cheers! Fran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) From the days when coal was not a dirty word. (environmentally speaking & pun fully intentional). (B) 357??? Food for thought. Power Station Best. (Still not as good as Nutty Slack). Shows load settlement after travelling 8 miles from Wardley rapid loader at White Mare Pool. Wearmouth. Freshly loaded. Must dig out the trans/negs so I can do a decent scan. P Edited May 4, 2022 by Porcy Mane 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: From the days when coal was not a dirty word. (enviromentally speaking & pun fully intentional). (B) 357??? Oh and what are those in the background, they look like more coal wagons of a different type that have to be on Accurascale's list alongside the humble 16t 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 They really did get battered. Could you make the hoods and cross braces in tin foil (mr kiplings cake cases) for ease of bending? Also gives you lots of bakewells etc etc for tea break 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophead45143 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Ask and ye shall receive! I think someone sent this into us, but I cannot find the name of the person who did... Cheers! Fran A picture which nicely shows the potential difficulty in making coal loads for the early bodied variants - note the strengthening bars partially covered by the load. Challenge accepted anyone??? Cameron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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