Axlebox Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 ..as is this gem... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 ...and so is this...good bit of variation in greys and bauxites... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 ...and this, Kings Lynn 1961 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 ...have we seen this gathering before? Nice to see the brakes well pinned down... 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 ...you can almost smell the warm creosote. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just found this thread and spent quite a few weeks trawling through all of it. Truly inspiring, thanks everyone for posting. My main interest is in wagons used in the East Anglian sugar beet traffic during the early 60s. Another follower Martyn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 18/10/2020 at 16:52, Axlebox said: ...from Glen Fairweather's Flickr pages. Smooth git for 1961! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, andytrains said: Smooth git for 1961! 3 minutes ago, andytrains said: Smooth git for 1961! and in too good condition. The Min and the Man! Apologies if you are . That is the Min! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 These are my 16 tonners in EM, almost finished. Airfix with Masokits W irons and bits from MJT, Mainly Trains etc. I wanted these to be work stained but not too battered, probably need a bit more work, more will be built so the finish can be varied. One of these will end up with a coal load so will become more stained. All loads are removable. I also have this model for coal traffic, a Parkside kit, must be over 15 years old. The track will be inlaid eventually. I found this thread whilst searching for information for the models, they are quite an enthralling subject all of their own. Martyn 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 15 hours ago, andytrains said: Smooth git for 1961! I think that's the first view I've seen of a welded repair on a riveted body, and a very neat job they've made of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted October 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2020 I like the way they've painted neatly and perfectly over all the lumps the coal has knocked out of it! Anybody thought of a method of recreating this on plastic bodied models, btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2020 9 hours ago, The Johnster said: I like the way they've painted neatly and perfectly over all the lumps the coal has knocked out of it! Anybody thought of a method of recreating this on plastic bodied models, btw? Spots of superglue or PVA maybe? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted October 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2020 Bit too blobby I reckon; the actual lumps and bumps are more sort random, sharp, and rough, the result of dropping big hard lumps into the wagons out of hoppers. You'd see them on MGR wagons as well sometimes. On an etched brass side you could recreate them very effectively by attacking the inside with something like an old screwdriver, but plastic would just crack. For an empty wagon the dent needs to be replicated on the inside surface as we, and show a similar shape. My best idea so far, and I'm not going to do it, would be to gently brutalise a smooth sheet of ali foil and use it as an overlay. I model 1948-58, and the majority of steel minerals were still fairly new at this time, so there would have been less damage. Possibly a slope sider was more prone to damage from vertically dropped lumps of geology than a vertical sider, some coal would have struck the sloping sides directly rather than rolling into it from the top of the heap. Another idea I have had, which I might actually attempt one day, is to build up a 7 planker with angle iron frame and real wooden planks made from real trees, in the hope of replicating the 'bowed out' effect that these wagons displayed in their later years, and even having broken planks! I've already cut one or two about a bit with missing planks, or painted replacements. I have childhood memories of looking at coal trains from bridges and being fascinated by the wagon sides seeming to wave in the breeze, even at 15mph on the Roath Branch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, The Johnster said: Bit too blobby I reckon; the actual lumps and bumps are more sort random, sharp, and rough, the result of dropping big hard lumps into the wagons out of hoppers. You'd see them on MGR wagons as well sometimes. On an etched brass side you could recreate them very effectively by attacking the inside with something like an old screwdriver, but plastic would just crack. For an empty wagon the dent needs to be replicated on the inside surface as we, and show a similar shape. My best idea so far, and I'm not going to do it, would be to gently brutalise a smooth sheet of ali foil and use it as an overlay. I model 1948-58, and the majority of steel minerals were still fairly new at this time, so there would have been less damage. Possibly a slope sider was more prone to damage from vertically dropped lumps of geology than a vertical sider, some coal would have struck the sloping sides directly rather than rolling into it from the top of the heap. Another idea I have had, which I might actually attempt one day, is to build up a 7 planker with angle iron frame and real wooden planks made from real trees, in the hope of replicating the 'bowed out' effect that these wagons displayed in their later years, and even having broken planks! I've already cut one or two about a bit with missing planks, or painted replacements. I have childhood memories of looking at coal trains from bridges and being fascinated by the wagon sides seeming to wave in the breeze, even at 15mph on the Roath Branch. Pointy soldering iron applied with extreme care from the inside? Only appropriate for loaded wagons, though, as the inside surface would be a mess. And no, I haven't tried it, nor do I intend to. Edited October 25, 2020 by PatB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 Possible I suppose, but I’m not gonna try it either! A pin heated by a cigarette lighter might do the trick as well, and I’m not trying that, either. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 20202 by Alan Padley, on Flickr Wrawby Junction 47xxx by Alan Padley, on Flickr Manton Junction 61097 Cadwell by Gerard Fletcher, on Flickr 92098 approaching Green Lane cabin, Tyne Dock on 06.07.66 (DPH T11.05) by Dave Hill, on Flickr 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted October 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2020 Bit of a conundrum here. This oddity came with a box load of rather tatty made up Airfix minerals from the usual 'under the table' (rubbish!) cardboard box dealer's stock. There is no small top side door. It's slightly shorter and slightly less wide but has the Airfix type of ribbed underside of the floor. One end is very different to the normal Airfix version. Could it be an H0 kit, but who ever made any such kits? Any clues please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 An early Cambrian kit? 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Graham Farish did an LMS mineral wagon with that type of end. A very long time ago! Available in red/brown or grey. Paul 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) I've rummaged through the scrap rubbish box and found this, still on original frame. This is what I was thinking of. I'm not sure it is the Graham Farish one I immediately thought of. It is flat underneath and has been repainted. There are no origin markings. Paul Edited October 31, 2020 by hmrspaul 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Playcraft? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gordon A said: Playcraft? They did a H0 scale 21t Minfit, but no 16-tonner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Fleetwood Shawe couplings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 hours ago, jwealleans said: Fleetwood Shawe couplings? Who What we knew as Alec Jackson couplings, but nothing to do with this model. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted October 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2020 A quick question for the aficionados I am building a model of Paisley St James in 2mm fs. One of the traffic flows through PSJ, would have been delivery runs from Pressed Steel at Linwood. Pressed Steel built c 68,500 16t Minerals. Image Copyright Graces Guide What brakes would have been fitted when new? The reason for asking, is that I have an urge to upset the rivet counters, by running a full train of unweathered, ex works consecutively numbered 16 T minerals on delivery from Linwood to wherever they went. The firs 10 have just landed on my workbench, courtesy of Stephen Harris. As they were built unfitted, I am guessing Double sided independent, but I would like confirmation, if possible. Regards, and thanks for the help. Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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