RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 2, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2011 Can't help thinking you've made life very difficult for yourself Stubby, if you'd have called it from a parcel van window you could have saved yourself a lot of effort! Great concept, well executed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 2, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2011 if you'd have called it from a parcel van window you could have saved yourself a lot of effort! A late entry - 'From a parcels van window" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 2, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2011 Thanks Mickey ! So, back out of the parcels van (or the loo), the Tudor building (soon to be 'Ye Old Witch & Fairy' public house) has had the dormer replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted September 2, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2011 Much better.... It wasn't meant to be critical...it's just you had done the rest so convincingly, that this just didn't look right... Architect's and false perspective eh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 2, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2011 You were right Pete - it looked wrong because it was wrong. Now putting the tiles back on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The perspective is much better now, but do you have a prototype for a dormer with a ridge that is higher than the main roof ridge? I ask because I can't think of one offhand. The roof timbering is an important integral part of most timber frames and a dormer would almost certainly be a later insertion in this type of building. I'm having difficulty imagining what the internal arrangement might be without compromising the integrity of the original roof. If you have a prototype then fine, otherwise I'd suggest losing the vertical wall section below the dormer window and bringing the ridge of the dormer down just below the main roof ridge. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 2, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2011 No, I don't have a flippin' prototype, and 30-odd pages of Google images have failed to find one either, so I'll have to agree it's a pile of tosh. Right, dormer Mk3.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted September 2, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2011 oops...sorry I raised the comment about it in the first place... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 2, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2011 Don't worry about criticising my bodging - it all helps !! So, Mk3... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Much better Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 2, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'm not sure if the 'normal' view (i.e picture 1 above) looks correct, as with the window being open, the angle it displays at now seems to be crooked. Hmmmmm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 It's an old building, sometimes they are a bit crooked. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 5, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2011 Had a play with a pub sign today : Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted September 5, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2011 ...a Pint of 'extra cold' Guinness for me please...and one for yourself Stu for sortin' that dormer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 5, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hi Stu I have been folwoing this thread with interest due to the unique and ingenuious perpective (pun intended) taken on the challenge. The effect that you have achieved is very clever and a credit to you. My only other coment at this stage is that the shouldn't the top of the recently added chimney on the pub also follow the perspective rules? as the top looks perpendicular at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 5, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2011 I know what you mean Graham, it does look a bit odd in those photos. Does this one give a better (more realistic) view of it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted September 5, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2011 I think this is what I was trying to (subtly) get at the other day. Our eye would normally read the perspective in a view but as you have chosen to define this back to a predetermined point, then I suspect all built elements will need to focus back to that to follow the rules you have set... In the most recent view, that would also mean skewing the internal walls of the arch of the bridge etc... EDIT: That said, that last photo is lookin' very good overall... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 5, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2011 Whilst I am generally trying to keep all the eye lines in their correct perspective angle, I'm probably not going to get everyone 100% correct. I am grateful to those of you who point out the various inaccuracies of any aspect of the model - please don't stop - but I am also mindful of the impending deadline and that there is so much else to do. So, rightly or wrongly I've decided to leave the chimney stack top as it is, I can probably crop it out of most photos anyway, and the inside walls of the overbridge will be hidden by a darker environment and a passing through large vehicle. Now, a question. On the right side of the road is a row of terraced houses. The way I've initially built them is they are 4 identical units, but I'm sure that they should be pairs of mirror-image units, so the internal chimneys would be back to back. Have I got them wrong and should I re-do them ? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
multiprinter Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Now, a question. On the right side of the road is a row of terraced houses. The way I've initially built them is they are 4 identical units, but I'm sure that they should be pairs of mirror-image units, so the internal chimneys would be back to back. Have I got them wrong and should I re-do them ? Cheers Both types are equally common - sometimes in the same street. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Whilst I am generally trying to keep all the eye lines in their correct perspective angle, I'm probably not going to get everyone 100% correct. I am grateful to those of you who point out the various inaccuracies of any aspect of the model - please don't stop - but I am also mindful of the impending deadline and that there is so much else to do. So, rightly or wrongly I've decided to leave the chimney stack top as it is, I can probably crop it out of most photos anyway, and the inside walls of the overbridge will be hidden by a darker environment and a passing through large vehicle. Now, a question. On the right side of the road is a row of terraced houses. The way I've initially built them is they are 4 identical units, but I'm sure that they should be pairs of mirror-image units, so the internal chimneys would be back to back. Have I got them wrong and should I re-do them ? Cheers Stick the chimneys on the back then you won't need to do them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 6, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2011 I don't mind doing the chimneys, I was more concerned with putting them in the right place, but from the feedback ( thanks!) it would appear my proposed terrace is prototypical, so I don't need to re-do it. The terrace will include a barbers shop, complete with pole. Progress recently has seen the small shop on the far left split into two smaller shops. One will hopefully have an awning, with some sort of goods displayed on the pavement- not sure whether to do it like Arkwright's shop, if I can get /make enough ironmongery. All that's left then is to add all the street furniture and people. Have I time for a 4th ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 6, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2011 The terrace will include a barbers shop, complete with pole. How will we know he's not Russian, (or Hungarian to continue the Open All Hours theme)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QRModeller Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Looking good Stu. ... not sure whether to do it like Arkwright's shop ... Will it be open all hours? I'll get me coat! Matt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted September 6, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2011 Will it be open all hours? Stop m m mmm messing about Granville.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 6, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2011 All I need is a Morris 1000 parked across the street, and possibly a ladder up against the bedroom window... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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