alibuchan Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I have been told by my local shop, that the 350 should be out on either this weeks or next weeks deliveries from Farish. It is on the due in 60 days list on the farish website. Just in time for our jaunt out with Kinlet Wharf to DEMU show. Alistair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Wow I hope so, cant wait to get one. Saw one close up st the Bristol show yesterday, looked amazing David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted May 9, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2012 A blue/grey one for me with one eye on the re-vinyling possibilities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltic Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 371-700 350/1 silverlink - unbranded, delivered 5 minutes ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWallace Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 371-700 350/1 silverlink - unbranded, delivered 5 minutes ago Delivered 5 minutes ago and no photos yet?! It's the wrong gauge for me (I use 00), but I'd be very interested in seeing pics if you get the time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Hattons now have the unbranded version in stock. I am practically having palpitations as the LM liveried 350 1 should be in the same delivery from China. I cannot wait for mine to turn up, Cross Street was designed especially for it! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I've got one of the new 'unbranded' Desiros now. It's a stunning model, the equal of any Japanese or American made unit from a point of fine detail, fit and finish. Unfortunately they haven't corrected some errors seen on the EP version last year but I'm sure it will be universally applauded and accepted. Pic below. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Looks stunning Grahame - will yours be turning into a 450? I am trying hard not to buy this one as well as the LM liveried one hopefully due any time David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave flint Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Looks good, and a nice-to-have rather than a must-buy for me, so allow me to be critical. After struggling with the abysmal inter-car couplings on.the farish voyager, what system have they used here ? It's not shown on the photo, and will be a deal breaker for me. Also, how many dcc decoders are needed for full control of the lights etc ? What is performance like. and where is the motored car ? This is also the first farish model I'm interested in since Bachmanns "price control" policy (or is it blackmail?) Came in. Are they all around £135 or is anyone being brave/stupid ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 After struggling with the abysmal inter-car couplings on.the farish voyager, what system have they used here ? It's not shown on the photo, and will be a deal breaker for me. Hi there It uses the standard Arnold hook, there is a photo of it in the Warley thread in the Exhibition section (I am too stupid to link this to the photo), Colin Allbright advised me a few months ago the short shank couplers will bring the coaches very close together. Es grüßt Euch PC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave flint Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Thanks for that. - one further question, do you fit them yourself ? Grahames picture above shows no hook or anything there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium romley midland Posted May 18, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2012 This is also the first farish model I'm interested in since Bachmanns "price control" policy (or is it blackmail?) Came in. Are they all around £135 or is anyone being brave/stupid ? Hi Dave, this was announced in the 2011/2012 catalogue and Bachmann's new policy applies only to 2012/2013 announcements onwards so the Desiro isn't affected by the new policy. Cheers, Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted May 18, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2012 Unfortunately they haven't corrected some errors seen on the EP version last year but I'm sure it will be universally applauded and accepted Hi Graham. Out of interest, what errors are these? I really must hold off until they do the 450, but its such a nice looking model I'm finding it very difficult! Cheers, Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted May 18, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hello all The inter-car couplers are standard Rapidos in NEM pockets on close coupler mounts, bar the power bogie coupler which is mounted on the bogie. The couplers in Graham's unit have simply had the Rapido coupler removed from the end to improve the appearance. The motor is housed in one half of the pantograph vehicle (beneath the pantograph.) There is a switch on the underside of each power car to allow the lights to be deactivated, so two unit sets can be run with lights at the outer ends only. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave flint Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Thank you all for your answers. Just one final one - it looks like it will ne a dear one to dcc, as I'm guessing its two for the driving cars and another one for the motor car. It looks good, bar the panto being the wrong design. Still, it looks robust and works - the brecknell Willis being a bit too hard to meet the requirements of a sturdy, working design for the mass market ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted May 19, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2012 You could fit a Dapol Brecknall-Willis pantograph if you so wished but the standard pan supplied certainly looks good enough and is probably a lot more robust. Not sure what the errors are that Grahame referrs to - aside from the clunky looking wiring looms between the cars, it looks all good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Thank you all for your answers. Just one final one - it looks like it will ne a dear one to dcc, as I'm guessing its two for the driving cars and another one for the motor car. I have the two London Midland ones on order. Although these will be relatively expensive to DCC hopefully it will be easier to remove the bodyshells than for the 4CEP. Good that this time the end of train lighting can be switched off in analogue DC mode. Interesting to compare the spec and ease of decoder installation with another Bachmann EMU - the Liliput FLIRT. This manages with just one decoder socket to cover the two motored cars and the interior lighting, made easier by the articulated nature of the train. Decoder installation involves removing one cab front and the bodyshell. It looks as difficult to assemble and place on the track as a Farish Voyager! http://bastler-hp.de/?option=com_content&view=article&id=387&cat=8&Itemid=53#tag_3 This was chosen model of the year by the 1zu160 website in Germany. Of course at well over £200 in the UK it is a bit pricier than a Class 350 or a 4CEP. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibuchan Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 mine was delivered to me this morning will try and get some shots of the complete unit under the wires on Kinlet wharf tomorrow before we put it all away for DEMU. Alistair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted May 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2012 Hello all, Ran a London Midland version on Horseley Fields yesterday. A couple of photos in that thread but here is an extra one. The model is very smooth running and looks good. Getting the bodyshell off the power (panto) car is quite fiddly as the join between the body and the "solebar" is so fine - best done by starting beneath the doors and working along... But a lovely lovely model nonetheless. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin1985 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 The price is making me wince, but I'll certainly be putting an order in soon! Considering its almost certain Bachmann will never do a class 360 variant, I'm wondering just how feasible a conversion might be? Its certainly a lot more work than to a class 450! Removing the corridor connector would be the easy bit ... its just re-creating the curved windscreen glazing thats troubling me ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibuchan Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 shop around there will be some places that will have them cheaper than others. The more that are brought the more chance that Dapol might say that the Pendolino and 92's are a go'er or Farish will update the 90 because this has proved that there is a market for it. (I may just be saying this because our club will want about 4 Pendolino's ) Alistair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Considering its almost certain Bachmann will never do a class 360 variant, I'm wondering just how feasible a conversion might be? Have Bachmann stated anywhere that they will not be making a 360? While the 450 is easier and a logical progression, the 360 would not be that much harder. Just sticking on a new cab and livery (unless there are more subtle differences I have missed). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted May 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2012 Have Bachmann stated anywhere that they will not be making a 360? While the 450 is easier and a logical progression, the 360 would not be that much harder. Just sticking on a new cab and livery (unless there are more subtle differences I have missed). No they haven't, but then no-one knows what plans they have for the future, and it's probable they are waiting to see how the 350 sells before deciding whether any other versions of the Desiro family are worth proceeding with. It looks like a fine model and I just hope it sells well enough to convince them more versions are worth doing, particularly the 450. That said, the 360 does offer more livery variation. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted June 7, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2012 Picked up my 350 at Railfest a couple of days ago and most taken with the first RTR overhead unit for the UK scene. One question...does it come with a "bits bag"? I was wondering if there were any options for reducing the inter-car coupling gap and fitting deflectors and dummy couplers to the end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted June 7, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi Adam Surprisingly there is no "bits" bag; I did suggest to Bernard Taylor at the NGS AGM that a snap-in Dellner type coupler for the ends would be a useful detail add-on. Also, although the instruction sheet mentions alternative short couplers, this is an error as they are not supplied. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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