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Michael Delamar

Modelling a traditional parcels train

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I think we are well catered for in 4mm scale for parcels vehicles . The 11 vehicle set I’m currently running is a fairly eclectic mix comprising of.

LMS bogie CCT - Lima, rebogied

Mk1 CCT - Bachmann/ Invicta

LNER BZ 6 w van - Marc models (I think)

Thompson matchboard full brake - Coopercraft

LMS stove 6w - Comet

Hawksworth full brake - Hornby

LMS Stanier BG - Bachmann

SR BY van - Hornby

LNER pidgeon van - Isinglass models

Mk1 GUV - Bachmann

Gresley full brake - Hornby

 

pics available on request!

 

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To follow Roger's lead my 4M05 Penzance - Crewe has the following in order:

 

Mk1 BG - Bachmann

Mk1 CCT - Lima

LNER CCT - Parkside

Mk1 CCT - Lima

LMS Stanier full brake - Mainline (gangways removed)

SR CCT Plywood - Parkside

LMS Stanier full brake - Mainline (gangways removed)

GW Collett full brake - Phoenix kit (gangways removed)

SR PMV - Parkside

LMS Stanier full brake - Mainline (gangways removed)

Mk1 GUV - Lima (new bogies)

LNER CCT - Parkside

Mk1 GUV - Lima (new bogies)

 

Plus there are the following awaiting rakes:

LMS CCT - Parkside

SR CCT alternating planks- Parkside

2 x SR PMV - Parkside (scribed with alternating planks)

SR PMV Plywood - Converted Parkside CCT

SR BY van - Hornby

Hawksworth full brake - Hornby (gangways removed)

SR passenger brake - Ratio

Gresley full brake - Hornby

 

and these need finishing/making

4 more Mk1 CCT - Lima

Another LMS Stanier full brake - Mainline (gangways removed)

LNER BZ 6 w van - Macgeordie

4 more Mk1 GUV - Lima (need new bogies)

2 x Siphon G - Lima (plus a few others if needed)

GW inside framed Monster - Ian Kirk

Numerous Bachmann Mk1 BGs

 

All, apart from the Mk1 BGs, in some form of overall dirty blue!

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5 hours ago, Metr0Land said:

 

 

8503600892_7ae74c4ece_c.jpg50033 by mrrushman, on Flickr

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A loco in Large Logo livery pulling a Siphon G, not a common occurence I should imagine.

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1 hour ago, montyburns56 said:

 

A loco in Large Logo livery pulling a Siphon G, not a common occurence I should imagine.

Dangerous.....

 

Thousands will turn up now :D

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2 hours ago, leopardml2341 said:

Dangerous.....

 

Thousands will turn up now :D

 

Yeah, it may not be that rare, but I've never seen it before. Actually I didn't realise that LL was applied to the 50s from 1980 onwards. I always thought that the livery first started being used a few years later than that.

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There are pictures of Deltics taking over the cross country services to Edinburgh at York after relieving The large logo class 50 that had worked it from Plymouth or wherever IIRC.

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20/07/1981 - York.

 

In this instance the caption says the 50 is ex-works but is taking over a service train from a Deltic

 

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The red banner behind the Deltic may tell us something. 

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That Jenny Agutter is nearby?

 

 

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5 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

 

Yeah, it may not be that rare, but I've never seen it before. Actually I didn't realise that LL was applied to the 50s from 1980 onwards. I always thought that the livery first started being used a few years later than that.

ISTR, from my OPC book on the 50s, that they were the first recipients of the Large Logo, when they were all undergoing refurbishment c1970. 

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1 hour ago, PatB said:

ISTR, from my OPC book on the 50s, that they were the first recipients of the Large Logo, when they were all undergoing refurbishment c1970. 

The book is incorrect then. 56036 in 1978 was the first large logo repaint.

The first refurbished loco was in 1979, I think you meant c1980.

 

Sorry for the off topic folks.

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1 hour ago, Flood said:

The book is incorrect then. 56036 in 1978 was the first large logo repaint.

The first refurbished loco was in 1979, I think you meant c1980.

 

Sorry for the off topic folks.

 

Well, it might not be. I'm working from increasingly unreliable memory, as I'm currently away from said book, and haven't looked in it for a while. And, yes, fat fingers and a small phone keyboard strike again.

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On 02/07/2020 at 11:57, Metr0Land said:

 

 

49002002021_108eb6b7fc_c.jpgIMG_0032-1 by Pete Wilcox, on Flickr

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What a fantastic combination! Looks like an LNER type CCT or BG on the left behind the DPU.

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21 minutes ago, Signaller69 said:

What a fantastic combination! Looks like an LNER type CCT or BG on the left behind the DPU.

 

That's just the spacer to the next DPU in the consist!

 

Mike.

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It’s an LNER CCT, not a BG which had tumblehome to match gangwayed stock and no end doors, so no flat top buffers. 
 

As modelled by Hornby. 

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2 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

Bath 1969

 

c.1969 - Bath (Spa), Somerset.

 

 

Note the sh!t brown underframe and what seem to be foldable shelves in the end windows.

 

Mike.

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Enpart van next to loco. 

Paul 

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1 hour ago, hmrspaul said:

Enpart van next to loco. 

Paul 

It's a former Fruit C, isn't it, Paul?

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On 06/07/2020 at 21:44, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Note the sh!t brown underframe and what seem to be foldable shelves in the end windows.

 

Mike.

Provided for newspaper packing IIRC.

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Posted (edited)

Also for stowing items likely to be squished on the floor like cartons of day old chicks, fresh fruit, flowers, or broccili, and increasing capacity for the likes of pigeon baskets, full or empty.  These fold down wooden slat shelves were found in passenger brake vans including dmu/emu stock, GUVs, CCTs, SR PMV, BY, and gangwayed bogie GLVs, and the GW Siphons, Damos, ‘fruit’ vans, LMS BZ ‘Stove, LNER BY, and probably others as well.  They were hinged to the side of the vehicle and held by chains, which rattled when the shelves were folded up against the wall as the vehicle moved. 
 

Newspaper packers required gangwayed vehicles in order to access toilets. 

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